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**{{buff|The first portion's third hit has been removed, with its first two hits having a lower [[hitlag]] multiplier (1× → 0.6×) and launching opponents closer to Zelda with their outermost hitboxes (140° → 180°), allowing it to [[jab lock]] and connect more reliably into the rapid jab.}}
**{{buff|The first portion's third hit has been removed, with its first two hits having a lower [[hitlag]] multiplier (1× → 0.6×) and launching opponents closer to Zelda with their outermost hitboxes (140° → 180°), allowing it to [[jab lock]] and connect more reliably into the rapid jab.}}
**{{buff|The rapid jab's finisher deals more knockback than the previous third hit (40 base/95 scaling → 55/140), improving its KO potential.}}
**{{buff|The rapid jab's finisher deals more knockback than the previous third hit (40 base/95 scaling → 55/140), improving its KO potential.}}
**{{buff|The first portion has gained a hitbox on Zelda's lower body, while the rapid jab and finisher have been placed lower and have bigger hitboxes (3.6u/3.6u/6.0u → 6.0u/6.0u). This lets jab hit smaller characters more reliably.}}
**{{nerf|Both the first portion and the rapid jab's finisher have more ending lag, most significantly the latter (FAF 24 → 25, 43). Combined with the removal of the first portion's third hit and its faster startup, this makes the move much less safe on shield, and eliminates its combo potential at low percents.}}
**{{nerf|Both the first portion and the rapid jab's finisher have more ending lag, most significantly the latter (FAF 24 → 25, 43). Combined with the removal of the first portion's third hit and its faster startup, this makes the move much less safe on shield, and eliminates its combo potential at low percents.}}
**{{change|The first portion deals less damage, though this is compensated by the rapid jab (3% (hits 1-2), 5% (hit 3) → 2.5% (hits 1-2), 0.2% (rapid jab), 3% (finisher)).}}
**{{change|The first portion deals less damage, though this is compensated by the rapid jab (3% (hits 1-2), 5% (hit 3) → 2.5% (hits 1-2), 0.2% (rapid jab), 3% (finisher)).}}

Revision as of 12:02, June 27, 2020

Aesthetics

  • Change Zelda's appearance is based on her design from The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past [1][2][3] and A Link Between Worlds,[4] with her overall design being a combination of the two.[5]
    • Change As a result of her design change, many of Zelda's basic animations have been altered, including her standing pose, idle poses, and walking animation. All of these animations depict her as more expressive and cheerful than her SSB4 incarnation, which rarely showed emotion.
    • Change Zelda has an updated Palutena's Guidance conversation to coincide with the design change.
  • Change Most of Zelda's alternate costumes have been tweaked: the color of her tapestry now matches the upper half of her dress, with the bottom half of her red and blue costumes are now white instead of dark red and indigo respectively; her black costume now feature a purple gradation at bottom of her dress; and her Ocarina of Time-based costume has been modified to better match the coloration of the original. Finally, Zelda now has a new purple costume based on her appearance in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. It replaces her pink costume in SSB4, which was based on her A Link Between Worlds appearance, effectively swapping its place with her default costume.
  • Change Zelda always faces the screen regardless of which direction she turns, causing all of her animations to be mirrored.
  • Change All of Zelda's taunts have been altered:
    • Change Her up taunt is entirely new; she draws a cross pattern with magic from her fingertips, uttering a short grunt similar to Daisy's down taunt.
    • Change Her side taunt has a faster and flashier animation.
    • Change Her down taunt is a more casual and joyful wave.
  • Change Zelda hangs onto ledges with one hand.
  • Change Zelda's dress has independent physics.
  • Change Many of Zelda's attacks produce brighter, flashier magical effects.
  • Change All of Zelda's victory poses are completely new:
    • Change For the left-inputted pose, she conjures a small flame out of her finger and swirls it around playfully, akin to Lucas' right-inputted victory pose.
    • Change For the right-inputted pose, she summons the Phantom armor and proudly poses in front of it.
    • Change For the up-inputted pose, she emits magic out of two fingers and points at the screen.
  • Change Zelda is more vocal, and is significantly more expressive:
    • Change She vocalizes in all of her taunts and victory poses; she giggles during during her down taunt and new up-inputted victory pose; makes a kiai noise during her side taunt; makes a breathe during her new right-inputted pose.
    • Change Zelda vocalizes upon waking up from a sleep when not experiencing any knockback, similar to few other characters such as Palutena and Cloud. She shares this addition with Link, Young Link, Ganondorf and Wolf.
    • Change Some of her pre-existing voice clips are also tweaked, making them more in line with other characters' such voice clips; she makes more alarmed and loud, painful screams while taking knockback; makes a dazed noise upon being stunned; and her sleeping voice clip is more quiet.

Attributes

  • Buff Like all characters, Zelda's jumpsquat takes 3 frames to complete (down from 6).
  • Buff Zelda runs faster (1.3 → 1.43).
    • Buff Her initial dash speed is also much faster (1.6 → 1.958). This improves her approach on the ground and gives her an above average foxtrot.
  • Buff Zelda walks slightly faster (0.87 → 0.914).
  • Buff Zelda's air speed is slightly faster (1.04 → 1.092).
  • Change Zelda's full hop has less air time (62 frames → 57). This allows her to land faster, but reduces her window to use aerials.
  • Nerf Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 4-15).
  • Nerf Back roll has more startup with less intangibility (frames 4-17 → 5-16), and more ending lag (FAF 31 → 36).
  • Buff Spot dodge has less ending lag (FAF 28 → 27).
  • Nerf Spot dodge grants less intangibility (frames 3-18 → 3-17).
  • Buff Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-28 → 3-30).
  • Nerf Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 34 → 57).

Ground attacks

  • Neutral attack:
    • Change Neutral attack has gained a rapid jab alongside a finisher, which can be transitioned into from the first portion of the move on frame 9.
    • Buff It has significantly less startup lag (frame 11, 13, 15 → 4, 7), no longer being the slowest neutral attack in the game.
    • Buff The first portion's third hit has been removed, with its first two hits having a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.6×) and launching opponents closer to Zelda with their outermost hitboxes (140° → 180°), allowing it to jab lock and connect more reliably into the rapid jab.
    • Buff The rapid jab's finisher deals more knockback than the previous third hit (40 base/95 scaling → 55/140), improving its KO potential.
    • Buff The first portion has gained a hitbox on Zelda's lower body, while the rapid jab and finisher have been placed lower and have bigger hitboxes (3.6u/3.6u/6.0u → 6.0u/6.0u). This lets jab hit smaller characters more reliably.
    • Nerf Both the first portion and the rapid jab's finisher have more ending lag, most significantly the latter (FAF 24 → 25, 43). Combined with the removal of the first portion's third hit and its faster startup, this makes the move much less safe on shield, and eliminates its combo potential at low percents.
    • Change The first portion deals less damage, though this is compensated by the rapid jab (3% (hits 1-2), 5% (hit 3) → 2.5% (hits 1-2), 0.2% (rapid jab), 3% (finisher)).
    • Change The first portion no longer has set knockback (40/30 set/100 scaling → 25 base/35/30/20 scaling (hit 1), 40/25/40 base/25/20/25 scaling (hit 2)), and has gained a hitstun modifier of 2. At high percents, this causes it to connect much less reliably into the rapid jab, but grants it jab cancel setups.
  • Forward tilt:
    • Buff Forward tilt no longer has a blindspot directly in front of Zelda. Instead, if she is close to another character, her lunge animation will push her backwards to allow the hitbox to connect.
    • Buff It uses five small hitboxes instead of three medium-sized ones, improving its horizontal range and making it more disjointed.
    • Nerf However, this reduces its vertical range.
    • Nerf It has more startup lag (frame 10 → 12).
    • Buff It has a shorter total duration (FAF 38 → 37), effectively reducing the ending lag by 3 frames due to the increased startup.
    • Buff It deals more damage (12% → 15% (sweetspot), 10% → 11.5% (sourspot)) with knockback not fully compensated on the sweetspot (50 base/88 scaling → 72/69), increasing its KO potential.
    • Nerf The sourspot has more base knockback (50 → 72), but noticeably less knockback scaling (88 → 68), hindering its KO potential.
    • Nerf The three sourspot hitboxes take priority over the two sweetspot hitboxes, making them harder to land.
  • Up tilt:
    • Buff Up tilt has a longer hitbox duration (frames 7-18 → 7-19), allowing it to hit opponents lying down.
    • Buff The outermost hitbox is larger (5u → 5.5u), improving its range.
  • Down tilt:
    • Buff Down tilt has less ending lag (FAF 25 → 22).
    • Nerf It has 3 small unextended hitboxes instead of 1 medium-sized extended one, reducing its range.
    • Change It sends opponents at a lower angle (80° → 62°), and has less base knockback (20 → 15), but more knockback scaling (120 → 125).
    • Buff This allows it to combo more reliably into a dash attack and neutral aerial at mid percents and gives it a new KO set-up into forward aerial in combination with its lower ending lag.
    • Nerf However, this greatly worsens its combo potential into other attacks at low and high percents, and no longer has a guaranteed set-up into up aerial.
  • Dash attack:
    • Buff Dash attack's hitboxes are larger (2.2u (sweetspot)/5u (sourspot)/4.8u (late hit) → 2.8u/5.2u/5u) and the sweetspot is extended (Z offset: 12.8 → 12.6-13.2), improving the move's range and making it easier to land the sweetspot.
    • Buff The late hit has a longer duration (frames 8-10 → 8-12).
    • Buff Dash attack has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 36).
  • Forward smash:
    • Buff Forward smash's looping hits have been moved further out (Z offset: 8/16 → 9/17), as has its final hitboxes (Z offset: 9.5/16 → 10.5/17), increasing its horizontal range while not introducing a blindspot due to the new jostle mechanics.
  • Up smash:
    • Nerf Up smash only has seven hits instead of eight, reducing its total damage (15.4% → 14.6%).
    • Change It has different angles (90°/366°/200°/200° → 90°/160°/100°/367°), allowing it to connect more reliably against aerial opponents, but no longer pulling opponents standing on either side of her into the looping hitboxes as easily.

Aerial attacks

  • Buff All aerials have less landing lag (19 frames → 12 (neutral), 23 → 15 (forward), 25 → 16 (back), 19 → 12 (up), 18 → 12 (down)).
  • Change Lightning Kicks and down aerial have unique sound effects when used.
  • Neutral aerial:
    • Nerf Neutral aerial is vulnerable to SDI again (0× → 0.8× (looping hits), 1× (last hit)), and the looping hits no longer use the autolink angle (366° → 70°/132°/230°/152°/210°) nor set knockback (75 set/100 scaling → 50/35/10 base/80/10/10 scaling). This causes it to connect less reliably, despite the looping hits using weight-independent knockback and having a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.6×).
      • Buff However, this improves the first hit's combo potential on grounded opponents if used in a short hop fast fall.
    • Buff The last hit has less base knockback (40 → 35), allowing it to combo for longer, while preserving its edgeguarding potential due to the changes to the Sakurai angle (40° (grounded)/45.2637° (aerial) → 38°).
    • Change The last hit has a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 2×).
  • Forward aerial:
    • Buff Forward aerial has less startup (frame 9 → 6), with its total duration reduced as well (FAF 53 → 50).
    • Buff It auto-cancels earlier (frame 50 → 43), although still not fast enough to auto-cancel in a short hop.
    • Buff The sweetspot is slightly larger (1.9u → 2.2u) and extends further into the Z-axis (X offset: -1–1), making it easier to land and preventing it from missing due to opponents leaning into the Z-axis.
    • Nerf Its initial auto-cancel window is shorter (frames 1-3 → 1-2).
    • Change Zelda gained a specific voice clip for performing forward aerial; it somewhat resembles Fox, Falco, Pit and Dark Pit's voice clips when they perform Fox Illusion, Falco Phantasm, Palutena Bow and Silver Bow respectively.
  • Back aerial:
    • Buff Back aerial has less ending lag (FAF 53 → 50).
    • Buff It auto-cancels earlier (frame 52 → 45).
    • Buff The sweetspot has more base knockback (28 → 30).
    • Buff The sweetspot is slightly larger (1.9u → 2.2u) and extends further into the Z-axis (X offset: -1–1), making it easier to land and preventing it from missing due to opponents leaning into the Z-axis.
  • Up aerial:
    • Buff Up aerial consists of a clean hit and a weaker late hit that deals 12%, doubling the move's hitbox duration (frames 14-16 → 14-16 (clean)/17-19 (late)).
    • Buff It auto-cancels slightly earlier (frame 55 → 54), with its auto-cancel window no longer exceeding its animation length.
    • Buff The hitbox is larger (8u → 9u).
    • Change Its hitbox is higher up (Y offset: 23 → 26.5). Combined with its larger size, this noticeably improves its range above Zelda, but introduces a blindspot and makes it very hard (or even impossible) to hit grounded opponents onstage.
    • Change It has more base knockback (30 → 55), but less knockback scaling (84 → 73 (clean)/70 (late)). This improves the new clean hit's KO potential after a full hop and near the upper blast line, but slightly reduces it near ground level.
    • Nerf It has a new animation which is longer than the previous one (54 frames → 63). This increases the amount of time Zelda cannot grab the ledge after using the move although the move has interruptibility frames to compensate for its total duration.
  • Down aerial:
    • Buff Down aerial's clean hit has an additional hitbox that covers Zelda's lower leg, removing its blindspot and giving it more range despite the hitboxes are smaller (4u → 3.2u/3.2u). This makes it easier to land.
    • Nerf The late hit has smaller hitboxes (6u/6u → 5u/4u), reducing its range and worsening its gimping potential.

Throws and other attacks

  • Grabs:
    • Nerf Standing grab has more ending lag (FAF 38 → 40).
    • Nerf Dash and pivot grabs have more startup lag (frame 11 → 13 (dash), 14 (pivot)).
      • Buff However, dash grab's total duration was not fully compensated (FAF 47 → 48), giving it one frame less ending lag.
    • Nerf Dash grab has less range (Z2 offset: 14.5u → 13.3u).
    • Buff Pivot grab has significantly increased range (Z2 offset: -16.7u → -19.2u), becoming one of the farthest reaching non-tether pivot grabs in the game.
    • Buff Pivot grab has less ending lag (FAF 45 → 43).
  • Pummel:
    • Buff Pummel deals more hitlag (5 frames → 14), but has significantly less startup (frame 7 → 2) and ending lag (FAF 25 → 8), shortening its duration.
    • Nerf It deals much less damage (3% → 1.3%).
    • Change Zelda grabs and pummels opponents with one hand instead of two.
  • Change Forward, back, and up throws have altered animations, and Zelda's hands emit brighter trails of magic.
  • Forward throw:
    • Nerf Forward throw deals less damage (12% → 10%) and knockback (70 base/50 scaling → 100/30). This significantly hinders its KO potential despite launching at a lower angle (45° → 42°), to the point it can no longer KO under 215% even near the edge.
  • Back throw:
    • Buff Back throw deals more damage (11% → 12%) and has less base knockback (80 → 40), but more knockback scaling (60 → 90), greatly improving its KO potential from center stage.
  • Up throw:
    • Buff Up throw has much higher knockback scaling (60 → 82), allowing it to KO middleweights at around 150% without worsening its combo ability due to the change below, while in SSB4, it was unable to KO until around 200%.
    • Buff It has increased combo potential due to Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed.
    • Change It sends opponents at a marginally less vertical angle (88° → 87°).
  • Down throw:
    • Buff Down throw's four looping hits deal more damage (1% → 1.5%), increasing its total damage output (6% → 8%).
    • Change It has less base knockback (85 → 75), but more knockback scaling (55 → 85), increasing its combo potential at lower percents in combination with Zelda's faster jumpsquat and jump speed, but reducing it at higher percents.
    • Change It sends opponents at a less vertical angle (100° → 104°), leaving it unable to combo into an up aerial at low-mid percents, but allowing it to combo better into a sweetspotted back aerial.
  • Edge attack:
    • Buff Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).

Special moves

  • Nayru's Love:
    • Buff The hitboxes of Nayru's Love have less startup lag (frame 13 → 11), with their total duration reduced as well (FAF 60 → 58).
    • Buff Its intangibility starts one frame earlier (frame 5 → 4).
    • Buff It no longer halts vertical momentum, allowing Zelda to move in the air while using the move.
    • Nerf Its reflective hitbox timing (frames 5-43 → 5-40) has a shorter duration. The intangibility also ends two frames earlier, reducing its duration by one frame (frames 5-15 → 4-13).
  • Din's Fire:
    • Buff Din's Fire no longer leaves Zelda helpless in the air.
    • Buff It travels a slightly longer distance.
    • Buff Its hitboxes are larger, especially the sweetspot (2.1u → 3.5u (sweetspot), 4.5u → 4.8u (sourspot)).
    • Change The flame has a more stylized appearance.
  • Farore's Wind:
    • Buff Farore's Wind has less startup lag with the first hit having a longer duration (frame 8 → 6-7 (hit 1), 41-42 → 35-36 (hit 2)), and its total duration reduced as well (FAF 81 → 76).
    • Buff Its intangibility starts earlier and lasts longer (frames 21-39 → 11-35).
    • Buff Zelda can drift in the air much sooner after reappearing.
    • Buff Zelda has more precise angles of reappearance, allowing her to land its second hit on enemies who DI the initial hit.
    • Nerf The second hit has less base knockback (90/70 → 80/60), hindering its KO potential despite the aerial version's sweetspot having higher knockback scaling (90 → 94).
    • Change It shows small green orbs that move in the direction Zelda is moving while before reappearing.
    • Change A more intense green/yellow vortex is produced at the start and end of the move.
  • Phantom Slash:
    • Change Phantom Slash has been heavily reworked. The Phantom armor assembles itself behind Zelda rather than appearing fully formed out of a portal in front of her. It is a single-press chargeable move; pressing the special move button again will cause the incomplete armor to attack at its current charge level. The move has five charge levels, each resulting in a different attack:
      • 1st: Kick (frame 15)
      • 2nd: Punch (frame 20)
      • 3rd: Outward slash (frame 28)
      • 4th: Downward slash (frame 38)
      • 5th: Upward slash (frame 50, can be delayed up to frame 120)
    • Buff The move reaches full charge much faster and with less ending lag (FAF 67), and the Phantom can be delayed in place even after the charge is finished, allowing Zelda to move around before it rushes forward. Zelda can set it as a trap and attack the opponent in tandem with the Phantom, or she can retreat behind it for protection. This improves Zelda's neutral game and advantage state, and also discourages the opponent from reflecting the Phantom since she has enough time to respond with Nayru's Love.
    • Buff All levels have a longer hitbox duration, and all after the first also have less startup (frame 11 (1st), 13-14 (2nd), 18-19, 24-27 (3rd) → frames 11-12 (1st), 8-12 (2nd), 8-11 (3rd & 4th), 7-17 (5th)).
    • Buff Releasing the Phantom has less ending lag (FAF 47 → 40).
    • Buff There is no longer a cooldown if the Phantom is destroyed. Once the armor disappears, the move can be used again immediately.
    • Nerf Phantom Slash deals less damage overall, especially when fully charged (≈6%-≈8% (1st level), ≈11%-≈15% (2nd), ≈24% total (3rd) → 5.9% (1st), 8.2% (2nd), 10.5%-11.8% (3rd), 14.1%-15.4% (4th), 17.7% (5th)), as the fully charged hit only hits once. It has also received negative shield damage (0 → -1, -1.5, -2, -2.5, -3).
    • Nerf The Phantom charges behind Zelda instead of in front, leaving her more vulnerable since it has to travel a short distance before it can hit in front of her.
    • Change The last level has more base knockback (32 → 60), but less knockback scaling (100 → 75), and launches at a lower angle (50° → 46°). This make it better for KOing at the ledge, but worse from afar.
  • Final Smash:
    • Change Zelda has a new Final Smash called Triforce of Wisdom. She magically opens a glowing, triangular portal that sucks in the opponent and immobilizes them while dealing damage. If the opponent is at or above 100% damage before the portal closes, they are "sealed away" and instantly KO'd; otherwise, they receive set knockback. Other opponents above 100% damage can be launched significantly if they are within a certain radius of the portal when it closes.
    • Buff Compared to Light Arrow, Triforce of Wisdom has a significantly longer duration and more range covering the entire stage, making it almost impossible to avoid. It also deals more total damage (40% → 67%).
    • Nerf Triforce of Wisdom can only trap one opponent, making it less effective in battles with more than two players.
  1. ^ Masahiro Sakurai (translated by Brando) (2018-06-20). "Smash is Special – Part 1" Sakurai's Famitsu Column Vol. 557. SourceGaming.info (original Japanese publication in Famitsu). Retrieved on 2018-06-20. “Zelda's new design is based on "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past"
  2. ^ Dairantou Smash Bros. SPECIAL (E3 2018). Nintendo (2018-06-12). Retrieved on 2018-07-08. “Breath of the Wild Zelda isn't interested in combat, so her design is from A Link to the Past.”
  3. ^ Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (North America) - Palutena's Guidance: "Yes, that's Zelda from A Link to the Past. She's a descendant of the Seven Sages. When she was captured, she used telepathy to ask Link for help."
  4. ^ Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - E3 2018. Nintendo (2018-06-12). Retrieved on 2018-07-08. “In The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Zelda's more into research than fighting, so her design is from The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
  5. ^ PushDustIn on Twitter: Zelda is confirmed to be based on Link to the Past AND Link Between Worlds.