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:And hey since I can't convince you otherwise, why not '''you''' give an explanation on how Kirby is "good" and Pikachu is "broken"? Go on, I'm a patiant mushroom. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 08:48, February 11, 2020 (EST)
:And hey since I can't convince you otherwise, why not '''you''' give an explanation on how Kirby is "good" and Pikachu is "broken"? Go on, I'm a patiant mushroom. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 08:48, February 11, 2020 (EST)
Well, i don't think that Pikachu is broken, but i think that it's obnoxious to face. While it lacks range, its fast mobility and attacks, its projectiles and its aerials can cause a lot of pressure. Its recovery is very hard to stop as it has both a very long distance and it's hard to predict Quick Attack. Not to mention that its aerials have good zero-to death potential and only down aerial has over 20 frames of ending lag, all of them can autocancel in a short hop and its easy to capitalize on them and Pikachu's edgeguarding, which is possibly the best in the game. The fact is that since Pikachu can do that, it can force you to camp him with long range moves, as its range is really poor. Simon for istance, has so many options to keep Pikachu at bay and stop it. I just think that Pikachu should receive nerfs to its aerials because it capitalizes a bit too much on them. About Kirby, i think that you're underestimating some of his buffs, especially after patch 6.0.0. For starters, its range has been improved, especially in his aerials, and both neutral and up aerials are faster and slightly safe to use in disadvantage. Not to mention his KO power: His smash attacks are stronger, neutral aerial is now one of the strongest in the game if you hit cleanly, and forward tilt and dash attack now have KO potential. Up aerial is also stronger, to the point it has regained some of the KO power it had lost in ''Brawl''. I think Kirby is underrated because he has good strengths: fast attacks, good KO power, solid combo ability, strong edgeguarding game, and if you think about his size, his range is not actually too bad at least compared to other small characters, and his punish game is solid. This is not ''Melee'' Kirby, maybe he is just outclassed by many characters because his disadvantage state is poor. Maybe the only issue i have with him is that his air mobility should be a little faster, at least closer to, let's say, Pikachu, as its air speed is mediocre, but its air acceleration is very high, and it's marginally higher that Kirby's.  I don't think that he is mid tier or something like that, but i think that he is underrated and should be ranked a bit higher in a tier list. No offence, but sometimes you guys take things a bit too seriously, but anyway, this is my personal opinion.[[Special:Contributions/79.18.11.200|79.18.11.200]] 09:16, February 11, 2020 (EST)
Well, i don't think that Pikachu is broken, but i think that it's obnoxious to face. While it lacks range, its fast mobility and attacks, its projectiles and its aerials can cause a lot of pressure. Its recovery is very hard to stop as it has both a very long distance and it's hard to predict Quick Attack. Not to mention that its aerials have good zero-to death potential and only down aerial has over 20 frames of ending lag, all of them can autocancel in a short hop and its easy to capitalize on them and Pikachu's edgeguarding, which is possibly the best in the game. The fact is that since Pikachu can do that, it can force you to camp him with long range moves, as its range is really poor. Simon for istance, has so many options to keep Pikachu at bay and stop it. I just think that Pikachu should receive nerfs to its aerials because it capitalizes a bit too much on them. About Kirby, i think that you're underestimating some of his buffs, especially after patch 6.0.0. For starters, its range has been improved, especially in his aerials, and both neutral and up aerials are faster and slightly safe to use in disadvantage. Not to mention his KO power: His smash attacks are stronger, neutral aerial is now one of the strongest in the game if you hit cleanly, and forward tilt and dash attack now have KO potential. Up aerial is also stronger, to the point it has regained some of the KO power it had lost in ''Brawl''. I think Kirby is underrated because he has good strengths: fast attacks, good KO power, solid combo ability, strong edgeguarding game, and if you think about his size, his range is not actually too bad at least compared to other small characters, and his punish game is solid. This is not ''Melee'' Kirby, maybe he is just outclassed by many characters because his disadvantage state is poor. Maybe the only issue i have with him is that his air mobility should be a little faster, at least closer to, let's say, Pikachu, as its air speed is mediocre, but its air acceleration is very high, and it's marginally higher that Kirby's.  I don't think that he is mid tier or something like that, but i think that he is underrated and should be ranked a bit higher in a tier list. No offence, but sometimes you guys take things a bit too seriously. Anyway, this is my personal opinion, and you can't attack me on that because it will be an insult, and believe me, i'm very a subsceptible guy who doesn't like when someone says bad things about me.[[Special:Contributions/79.18.11.200|79.18.11.200]] 09:16, February 11, 2020 (EST)
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