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Characters can still be clones without being considered echo fighters. Dr. Mario is a prime example of this. [[User:SammyTFM|SammyTFM]] ([[User talk:SammyTFM|talk]]) 17:56, 11 January 2019 (EST)
Characters can still be clones without being considered echo fighters. Dr. Mario is a prime example of this. [[User:SammyTFM|SammyTFM]] ([[User talk:SammyTFM|talk]]) 17:56, 11 January 2019 (EST)


The standard of what makes a clone a clone changes per game.Dr Mario in Ultimate was officially stated to not be an echo because of his distinct ability differences, which echoes lack. He is also balanced and developed as if he was a unique character instead of relative to Mario, which is evidenced by his altered equipment stats, new moves and separate balance patches. In comparison, Lucina and Dark Pit got all the changes that Marth and Pit got and even lost some differences.--[[User:Starcrystal45|Starcrystal45]] ([[User talk:Starcrystal45|talk]]) 13:24, 12 January 2019 (EST)
The standard of what makes a clone a clone changes per game, and can't be judged by attack animations alone. Dr Mario in Ultimate was officially stated to not be an echo because of his distinct ability differences, which echoes lack. He is also balanced and developed as if he was a unique character instead of relative to Mario, which is evidenced by his altered equipment stats, new moves and separate balance patches. In comparison, Lucina and Dark Pit got all the changes that Marth and Pit got and even lost some differences.--[[User:Starcrystal45|Starcrystal45]] ([[User talk:Starcrystal45|talk]]) 13:24, 12 January 2019 (EST)

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Wasn't Doc technically in the World of Light trailer since he's just Mario in different clothing?

Self explanatory DrFault (talk) 11:11, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Citation needed on Super Sheet reflecting projectiles upward

From what I can tell, the claim on this page that Super Sheet now reflects projectiles upward is based on its new animation and this moment in a Treehouse video: https://youtu.be/6NSVL2Tc8b0?t=38

However, if you advance frame-by-frame, you'll realize that the Launch Star is behaving normally, unaffected by Super Sheet, and Super Sheet hasn't even been fully deployed by the time it is launched upward. Additionally, this Launch Star approached Doc from behind, yet didn't shoot upward until it was ahead of him.

While I haven't been able to find footage of the Super Sheet actually reflecting something yet, nowhere but Smashwiki is reporting this change, and some who already have the game are claiming otherwise.

This seems like an outlandish change and a significant nerf. Citation needed.

- User:Contra

I put up a warning flag for it. Look out for anything. Please make sure to sign your comments correctly though. (four tildes at the end, like this: ~~~~) Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 18:19, 2 December 2018 (EST)
After doing thorough testing, I can confirm that Super Sheet DOES NOT reflect upwards, and instead functions exactly the same as it always has. Thanks for alerting us to this. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 22:10, 7 December 2018 (EST)

Should Dr. Mario get a "Differences from" section?

Even though he's not classified as an Echo Fighter, he's still classified as a clone on his page. Should we treat him like one? SammyTFM (talk) 15:09, 7 December 2018 (EST)

No. He is not a clone in Ultimate because he has a lot of changes from Mario in gameplay, in a much greater fashion than all echo fighters, even Ken. We can compare him to Mario in the Moveset section. Falco and co. don't have a differences from section. --86.163.150.33 16:18, 4 January 2019 (EST)

Characters can still be clones without being considered echo fighters. Dr. Mario is a prime example of this. SammyTFM (talk) 17:56, 11 January 2019 (EST)

The standard of what makes a clone a clone changes per game, and can't be judged by attack animations alone. Dr Mario in Ultimate was officially stated to not be an echo because of his distinct ability differences, which echoes lack. He is also balanced and developed as if he was a unique character instead of relative to Mario, which is evidenced by his altered equipment stats, new moves and separate balance patches. In comparison, Lucina and Dark Pit got all the changes that Marth and Pit got and even lost some differences.--Starcrystal45 (talk) 13:24, 12 January 2019 (EST)