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:He's been a semi-clone ever since ''Melee'', Croc. The changes made to Mario in ''Smash 4'' still apply to Luigi as well, even if his grabs and throw have been drastically changed. Plus, two of his moves (up tilt and forward tilt) were slightly recloned to resemble Mario's again, and he still has the same up and back aerial animations as Mario as well. [[File:SonicSpeed48ChristmasSig.png|17px]][[User:SonicSpeed48|<span style="color: darkgreen ;">'''Sonic'''</span>]], [[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<span style="color: red;">'''the Cheerful Speedster'''</span>]][[File:ChristmasTimeTigger.png|17px]] 11:07, 10 December 2018 (EST) | :He's been a semi-clone ever since ''Melee'', Croc. The changes made to Mario in ''Smash 4'' still apply to Luigi as well, even if his grabs and throw have been drastically changed. Plus, two of his moves (up tilt and forward tilt) were slightly recloned to resemble Mario's again, and he still has the same up and back aerial animations as Mario as well. [[File:SonicSpeed48ChristmasSig.png|17px]][[User:SonicSpeed48|<span style="color: darkgreen ;">'''Sonic'''</span>]], [[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<span style="color: red;">'''the Cheerful Speedster'''</span>]][[File:ChristmasTimeTigger.png|17px]] 11:07, 10 December 2018 (EST) | ||
::Luigi's status as a semi-clone has been subject to debate since SSB4. If we look at his current moveset, he shares a similar neutral, back, and up air, forward and up tilt, up and down smash, and similar standard and up specials. Meanwhile, his jab, dash attack, down tilt, forward smash, forward and down aerial, side and down special, final smash all variation of his grabs, all throws, running and walking animations, helpless animation, idle animation, screen KO, character physics, and jumping animations are completely unique. Furthermore, some of his moves like Super Jump Punch have radically different properties that further distinguish him from his red counterpart. These differences put him more in line with Wolf. [[User:OldLink5|OldLink5]] ([[User talk:OldLink5|talk]]) 11:38, 10 December 2018 (EST) | ::Luigi's status as a semi-clone has been subject to debate since SSB4. If we look at his current moveset, he shares a similar neutral, back, and up air, forward and up tilt, up and down smash, and similar standard and up specials. Meanwhile, his jab, dash attack, down tilt, forward smash, forward and down aerial, side and down special, final smash all variation of his grabs, all throws, running and walking animations, helpless animation, idle animation, screen KO, character physics, and jumping animations are completely unique. Furthermore, some of his moves like Super Jump Punch have radically different properties that further distinguish him from his red counterpart. These differences put him more in line with Wolf. [[User:OldLink5|OldLink5]] ([[User talk:OldLink5|talk]]) 11:38, 10 December 2018 (EST) | ||
:::No I mean Luigi is not a semi clone in Ultimate, not in other games. | :::No I mean Luigi is not a semi clone in Ultimate, not in other games. [[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk: Crocodile Dippy 2]]) 19:18, 10 December 2018 (GMT) | ||
[[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk: Crocodile Dippy 2]]) 19:18, 10 December 2018 (GMT) | ::::Personnaly, they sould not be considered semi clone anymore, they have completely different moveset and property, Fox/Wolf share more than Mario/Luigi.[[User:Jf811|Jf811]] ([[User talk:Jf811|talk]]) 11:53, 13 December 2018 (EST) | ||
It is very difficult in general to draw the line at which a character is ''no longer'' a semi-clone. I have [[User:Toomai/Cloneosity|a project]] that attempts to do so, but until I can complete it, things should stay as they are for now. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Pan-Galactic 10:45, 14 December 2018 (EST) | |||
== Wolf in Ultimate == | == Wolf in Ultimate == | ||