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I have to disagree about Aether being a "decent" recovery move. The abysmal horizontal movement, combined with the sheer speed of the downward move means that more often then not, Aether plunges him to a self-destruct rather than saving him, the only time it'd be able to save him is either at a very high distance, or one so close he probably should just edge grab anyway. Pretty much the only way Aether is really usefuly as a recovery is if he's directly under a half-massive within his upward range. Otherwise Aether sucks at saving Ike's behind in a fight. And while I'm on an irrelevant subject, why should Sonic and Snake be insulted? They're both headliners in video game franchises much more successful than most the franchises depicted in SSBB, Fire Emblem included in that list.
I have to disagree about Aether being a "decent" recovery move. The abysmal horizontal movement, combined with the sheer speed of the downward move means that more often then not, Aether plunges him to a self-destruct rather than saving him, the only time it'd be able to save him is either at a very high distance, or one so close he probably should just edge grab anyway. Pretty much the only way Aether is really usefuly as a recovery is if he's directly under a half-massive within his upward range. Otherwise Aether sucks at saving Ike's behind in a fight. And while I'm on an irrelevant subject, why should Sonic and Snake be insulted? They're both headliners in video game franchises much more successful than most the franchises depicted in SSBB, Fire Emblem included in that list.
==.GIF==
i think that due to the nature of the move, that a gif image (animation) would be more suitable. If someone could upload one, that'd be great. I would, if i had a capture card, but i don't. [[User:Pokémonultimate|<font color="red">'''Pokémon'''</font>]][[User talk:Pokémonultimate|<font color="blue">'''ultimate'''</font>]] [[File:ToonLinkHeadSSBB.png|20px]] ''The Hero of '''WIN'''ds'' 18:47, 5 January 2012 (EST)
==In the Subspace Emissary (Trivia?)==
I've noticed that the some of the text in this part of the article could be moved to the trivia section. Ike ''does'' say "Great Aether" while only using the normal "Aether" Up special move to fill in the Japanese lip sync, so should I just move that part to the trivia? [[User:Transdimensionalflux|Transdimensionalflux]] ([[User talk:Transdimensionalflux|talk]]) 22:15, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
:Generally speaking, the trivia section should only contain information that would otherwise not belong anywhere in the article. Ike saying "Great Aether" is relevant to his role in the SSE, so the information should not be moved. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 22:18, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, but what about that part that says, "(because "Aether" is said in two parts in japanese (天空 Ten-kū, lit. "Sky"), it was needed to fill the line)"? I know it'll probably stay where it's at, but I'm curious - should that part be moved? [[User:Transdimensionalflux|Transdimensionalflux]] ([[User talk:Transdimensionalflux|talk]]) 22:37, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
== Aether SSB4 Glitch ==
So, I've noticed twice that, if you use Aether right before the announcer calls "TIME!" in SSB4, Ike will disappear completely. Additionally, if one uses Aether Drive (custom move #2) in a similar fashion, the sword will glitch out, before returning to normal. Should this be added? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 18:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
==Chrom's Aether==
I t ought to be mentioned that Chrom's has him slash upwards rather than throwing the sword beforehand. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:34, 9 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:I've been studying the videos of both's up-special. It seems that Chrom's is slightly faster. Am I just seeing things? 15:15, August 20, 2018 (EDT)American Ronin
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I don't like how SmashWiki calls Chrom's up special Aether when we have nothing saying it is Aether other than it looking somewhat similar to Ike's (Chrom doesn't even throw the sword, as the discussion I am taking over says), plus Chrom already has Aether as his final smash and it looks nothing like his up special.
I think SmashWiki should refrain from calling it Aether until we know for certain. I believe it is better to be safe than sorry.
Also, while this does not really mean anything, Chrom never says Aether while using it like Ike does and he himself does in his final smash (unless he has three voice clips):
[https://youtu.be/2ZgDpD99RnU?t=2m02s Here he can be heard saying "I'm wet"] (99% likely he isn't actually saying that but I can't tell what he actually says)6 and [https://youtu.be/2ZgDpD99RnU?t=2m18s here he grunts]. [[User:PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) 17:01, 14 October 2018 (EDT), edited 17:03, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
:I would just remove it. Unless there's some substantial evidence I'm not aware of, better-supported stuff than this has been removed per [[SW:SPEC]]. &ndash; [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 17:56, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
::While I'm not going to argue against this, I will say that the distinguishing factor between his Final Smash and his up special (if it is called Aether) is an added "Awakening" in the former (since it pulls from ''Awakening'', Chrom's game). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 14:12, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
:::What? They look completely different. [[User:PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) 18:51, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
::::I know, hence the name change. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:52, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
Perhaps it should be phrased in a "similar but not confirmed" sort of way, stating that Chrom's up special resembles Ike's Aether but has its differences (namely that I believe Chrom doesn't throw his sword, just jumps while still holding it) and that the move's name hasn't been officially confirmed. I agree it's likely that it will end up being listed as "Aether" and that this was the reason that Awakening Aether was given a different name for clarity, but it isn't confirmed yet. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:54, 22 October 2018 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 17:54, October 22, 2018

I've been going through the Ike and other misc. Fire Emblem articles and clearing up grammatical mistakes as well as removing or editing incorrect claims and other acts of idiocy posted but less intelligent editors. I'll eventually start cleaning up other character articles in which I have at the very least adequate knowledge of facts regarding that topic. If other members could help keep trolling to a minimum, that would be great.Teh Toast (talk) 07:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC) teh Toast

I agree... Ike shouldn't be insulted like that... save it all for Snake and Sonic!

I have to disagree about Aether being a "decent" recovery move. The abysmal horizontal movement, combined with the sheer speed of the downward move means that more often then not, Aether plunges him to a self-destruct rather than saving him, the only time it'd be able to save him is either at a very high distance, or one so close he probably should just edge grab anyway. Pretty much the only way Aether is really usefuly as a recovery is if he's directly under a half-massive within his upward range. Otherwise Aether sucks at saving Ike's behind in a fight. And while I'm on an irrelevant subject, why should Sonic and Snake be insulted? They're both headliners in video game franchises much more successful than most the franchises depicted in SSBB, Fire Emblem included in that list.

.GIF[edit]

i think that due to the nature of the move, that a gif image (animation) would be more suitable. If someone could upload one, that'd be great. I would, if i had a capture card, but i don't. Pokémonultimate ToonLinkHeadSSBB.png The Hero of WINds 18:47, 5 January 2012 (EST)

In the Subspace Emissary (Trivia?)[edit]

I've noticed that the some of the text in this part of the article could be moved to the trivia section. Ike does say "Great Aether" while only using the normal "Aether" Up special move to fill in the Japanese lip sync, so should I just move that part to the trivia? Transdimensionalflux (talk) 22:15, 24 April 2012 (EDT)

Generally speaking, the trivia section should only contain information that would otherwise not belong anywhere in the article. Ike saying "Great Aether" is relevant to his role in the SSE, so the information should not be moved. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 22:18, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
Alright, but what about that part that says, "(because "Aether" is said in two parts in japanese (天空 Ten-kū, lit. "Sky"), it was needed to fill the line)"? I know it'll probably stay where it's at, but I'm curious - should that part be moved? Transdimensionalflux (talk) 22:37, 24 April 2012 (EDT)

Aether SSB4 Glitch[edit]

So, I've noticed twice that, if you use Aether right before the announcer calls "TIME!" in SSB4, Ike will disappear completely. Additionally, if one uses Aether Drive (custom move #2) in a similar fashion, the sword will glitch out, before returning to normal. Should this be added? Aidan the Gamer 18:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)


Chrom's Aether[edit]

I t ought to be mentioned that Chrom's has him slash upwards rather than throwing the sword beforehand. 72.133.91.93 12:34, 9 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

I've been studying the videos of both's up-special. It seems that Chrom's is slightly faster. Am I just seeing things? 15:15, August 20, 2018 (EDT)American Ronin

I don't like how SmashWiki calls Chrom's up special Aether when we have nothing saying it is Aether other than it looking somewhat similar to Ike's (Chrom doesn't even throw the sword, as the discussion I am taking over says), plus Chrom already has Aether as his final smash and it looks nothing like his up special.

I think SmashWiki should refrain from calling it Aether until we know for certain. I believe it is better to be safe than sorry.

Also, while this does not really mean anything, Chrom never says Aether while using it like Ike does and he himself does in his final smash (unless he has three voice clips): Here he can be heard saying "I'm wet" (99% likely he isn't actually saying that but I can't tell what he actually says)6 and here he grunts. PikaSamus (talk) 17:01, 14 October 2018 (EDT), edited 17:03, 14 October 2018 (EDT)

I would just remove it. Unless there's some substantial evidence I'm not aware of, better-supported stuff than this has been removed per SW:SPEC. – Emmett 17:56, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
While I'm not going to argue against this, I will say that the distinguishing factor between his Final Smash and his up special (if it is called Aether) is an added "Awakening" in the former (since it pulls from Awakening, Chrom's game). Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 14:12, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
What? They look completely different. PikaSamus (talk) 18:51, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
I know, hence the name change. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 18:52, 22 October 2018 (EDT)

Perhaps it should be phrased in a "similar but not confirmed" sort of way, stating that Chrom's up special resembles Ike's Aether but has its differences (namely that I believe Chrom doesn't throw his sword, just jumps while still holding it) and that the move's name hasn't been officially confirmed. I agree it's likely that it will end up being listed as "Aether" and that this was the reason that Awakening Aether was given a different name for clarity, but it isn't confirmed yet. Miles (talk) 18:54, 22 October 2018 (EDT)