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| ===Physic changes=== | | ==If 1.1.8 were to come out...== |
| *No more tripping. (possible fact)
| | I'd want these changes. |
| *Increased hitstun.
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| *Forward smashing with the Home Run Bat takes much less start up time.
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| ===Character changes from SSBB to SSB4 (buffs and nerfs)=== | | =='''Kirby'''== |
| ===Mario=== | | ===Attributes=== |
| Buffs
| | *{{buff|Traction is slightly increased (0.0493 → 0.0582).}} |
| *Down smash has significantly increased power. | | *{{buff|Walking speed is faster (0.93 → 0.95).}} |
| *Up smash is slightly stronger. | | *{{buff|Air speed is faster (0.8 → 0.87).}} |
| *Mario Tornado is his Down Special again and now gains hight if the B button is push quickly. | | ===Ground attacks=== |
| *The hight gained from Super Jump Punch was increased. | | *{{buff|Neutral attack's first hit has an altered angle (55° → 361°), restoring it's ability to lock.}} |
| | *{{buff|Forward smash has less start up (frame 13 → 12).}} |
| | *{{buff|Up smash has less start up (frame 14 → 11).}} |
| | *{{buff|Down smash now semi-spikes at the tips (angle 69° → 31°).}} |
| | ===Aerial attacks=== |
| | *{{buff|Up and forward air have less ending lag (up (frame 40 → 36), forward (frame 48 → 45)).}} |
| | *{{buff|Back air has less landing lag (frame 17 → 12).}} |
| | *{{buff|Down air has less start (frame 18 → 12).}} |
| | ===Throws and other attacks=== |
| | *{{buff|Down throw much less base knockback (60 → 35) and has an altered angle 63° → 81, giving it potential follow ups at very low percents.}} |
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| ===Donkey Kong=== | | =='''Sonic'''== |
| Buffs
| | ===Attributes=== |
| *Giant Punch is stronger along with improved reach. (Stronger, yes, more reach, not really) | | *{{buff|Traction is slightly increased (0.06 → 0.065).}} |
| *Fair meteor smash is slightly stronger. {{n}} (But it is faster) | | ===Aerial attacks=== |
| Nerfs
| | *{{buff|Neutral air has less landing lag (frame 16 → 12).}} |
| *Spinning Kong travels slightly less vertically. {{n}} | | *{{buff|Back air has less start up (frame 13 → 11), ending lag (FAF 38 → 36), less landing lag (frame 30 → 24) and autocancels earlier (frame 33 → 31).}} |
| | *{{buff|Down air has less landing lag (frame 38 → 30) and meteor smashes during it's early hitboxes.}} |
| | ===Throws and other attacks=== |
| | *{{buff|Back throw has slightly increased knockback growth (79 → 83), slightly improving its KO potential.}} |
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| ===Link=== | | =='''Luigi'''== |
| Buffs
| | ===Aerial attacks=== |
| *Spin Attack travels farther horizontally and vertically.
| | *{{buff|Back aerial has less ending lag (FAF 46 → 42)}} |
| *Air speed was increased.
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| *Up smash is more powerful. | |
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| ===Samus=== | | ==Mario's losing MUs== |
| Buffs
| | (My opinion) |
| *Charge Shot is significantly stronger and now KOs under 100%. | | *Cloud |
| *Up air deals slightly more damage. | | *Corrin |
| *Smash attacks are stronger. | | *Lucina |
| | *Marth |
| | *Mewtwo |
| | *Rosalina & Luma |
| | *Sonic |
| | *Zero Suit Samus |
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| ===Yoshi=== | | ==Sonic's losing MUs== |
| Buffs
| | (Again, my opinion) |
| *Fair meteor smash is stronger. | | *Bayonetta |
| *Down air's damage potential was significantly increased from 35% to 55%. {{n}} | | *Cloud |
| *Smash attacks are stronger. | | *Lucario |
| *Egg roll is a more useful recovery move. | | *Olimar |
| | *Pikachu |
| | *Toon Link |
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| ===Kirby===
| | ==Kirby's losing MUs== |
| Buffs
| | (Opinion) |
| *A general increase in the power and speed of his attacks. (His attack speed seems to be increased, I believe his power was increased too)
| | *Bayonetta |
| *Air speed was significantly increased and is now the 3rd fastest. {{n}} (it's been decreased, slightly)
| | *Cloud |
| *Down tilt can now semi-spike. {{n}}
| | *Corrin |
| *Back air is now fast enough to perform twice in a single short hop. It's hitbox also lasts longer (as long as his feet are out). {{n}} (But it's knockback scaling is higher)
| | *Diddy Kong |
| *Jump hight and speed was significantly increased and is now the 3rd highest. {{n}}
| | *Lucario |
| *The first 2 kicks of his forward air have low set knockback, meaning that it always link in to each other at any damage. (well they hit better)
| | *Lucina |
| *Kirby can Kirbycide with large and heavy characters again. {{n}}
| | *Luigi |
| *Kirby can now wall jump. {{n}}
| | *Mario |
| *Walking and dashing speed were increased. {{y}}
| | *Marth |
| *Forward smash and down throw have less ending lag. {{n}}
| | *Mega Man |
| *Vertical endurance was slightly improved. {{n}}
| | *Meta Knight |
| *Kirby's back air is now a Wall of Pain technique. (I think it's been a WOP, yes I'm aware it's a FOP move)
| | *Mewtwo |
| *Traction was increased. {{n}}
| | *Pikachu |
| *Final Cutter travels slightly farther horizontally, and much more vertically and can now grab a ledge from behind. The meteor smash produced has knockback scaling (38.57). It also grants him invincibility frames when used. It now has a new hitbox just before descent, and it no longer makes Kirby helpless. (Knockback scaling, no, distance appears the same)
| | *Rosalina & Luma |
| | | *Sonic |
| ===Fox===
| | *Toon Link |
| Buffs
| | *Villager |
| *A general increase in the power of his attacks.
| | *Yoshi |
| *Air speed was slightly increased.
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| *Back air has less ending lag.
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| *Fox sustains less knockback in SSB4. {{n}}
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| ===Pikachu===
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| Buffs
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| *Down aerial can now meteor smash. {{n}}
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| *Up smash is much stronger and is the 5th strongest. {{n}}
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| *Up air can now semi-spike and is stronger. {{n}}
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| ===Luigi===
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| Buffs
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| *Down air is much easier to meteor smash with. {{y}}
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| *The hight gained from Super Jump Punch was increased. {{n}} (if any thing, it looks like it's been decreased)
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| *Forward air is stronger. {{y}} | |
| *Down tilt is easier to meteor smash.
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| Nerfs
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| *Nair was weakened significantly. {{y}}
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| ===Captain Falcon===
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| Buffs
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| *A general increase in the power and speed of his attacks.
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| *Airborne Falcon Kick can now meteor smash. | |
| *Vertical endurance was slightly improved. | |
| *Traction was improved. | |
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| ===Ness===
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| Buffs
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| *A general increase in the speed and reach of his attacks. | |
| *Up throw is slightly stonger. | |
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| ===Jigglypuff===
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| Buffs
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| *Smashes are more powerful. | |
| *Rest is significantly stronger (it can now KO under 25%). (well, it's certainly stronger) | |
| *Up and back airs are stronger. (back air, yes, up air just has more reach)
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| *Down air can now meteor smash at higher damages. {{n}}
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| *Jigglypuff's Wall of Pain is notably more effective. {{n}}
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| ===Falco===
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| Buffs
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| *Forward smash and down tilt are stronger. {{n}}
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| *Dashing speed was increased. {{n}}
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| *Air speed was slightly increased.
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| *Fire Bird travels slightly farther, improving it's recovery capabilities. {{y}}
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| *Back air is slightly stronger and is now fast enough to preform twice in a single short hop. {{n}} | |
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| ===Marth===
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| Buffs
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| *A longer sword has resulted in a general increase in the reach of his attacks. {{n}} | |
| *Dashing speed and grab range were slightly increased. {{n}} | |
| *The sweetspot size of Marth's attacks (the tipper) was increased. (most notably down aerial) {{n}} | |
| *Aerials are stronger when tipped. | |
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| ===Bowser===
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| Buffs
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| *Forward smash is slightly stronger. (If anything, it's much stronger) | |
| *Whirling Fortrest travels farther horizontally. (vertically actually) | |
| Nerfs
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| *A general decrease in the speed of his attacks. {{n}} | |
| *Flying Slam can now be escaped. {{n}}
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| ===Ganondorf===
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| Buffs
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| *Up tilt is stronger. {{n}} | |
| *Up and down smashes are stronger. | |
| *Forward smash has increased damage and knockback when angled upward. {{n}}
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| *Back air is stronger.
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| *Dark Dive deals more damage and has increased power. (damage is lower)
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| ===Ike===
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| Buffs
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| *New up aerial has significantly improved vertical reach.
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| *Down air meteor smash is slightly stronger.
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| ===Wolf===
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| Nerfs
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| *Air speed was reduced.
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| ===Character dashing speeds===
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| {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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| ! Rank!!Character
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| |'''1'''||[[Sonic (SSBB)|Sonic]]
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| |'''2'''||[[Captain Falcon (SSBB)|Captain Falcon]]
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| |'''3'''||[[Fox (SSBB)|Fox]]
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| |'''4'''-'''5'''||[[Sheik (SSBB)|Sheik]] and [[Zero Suit Samus (SSBB)|Zero Suit Samus]]
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| |'''6'''||[[Meta Knight (SSBB)|Meta Knight]]
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| |'''7'''-'''8'''||[[Charizard (SSBB)|Charizard]] and [[Pikachu (SSBB)|Pikachu]]
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| |'''9'''-'''10'''||[[Diddy Kong (SSBB)|Diddy Kong]] and [[Marth (SSBB)|Marth]]
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| |'''11'''||[[Yoshi (SSBB)|Yoshi]]
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| |'''12'''-'''15'''||[[Kirby (SSBB)|Kirby]], [[Toon Link (SSBB)|Toon Link]], and [[Donkey Kong (SSBB)|Donkey Kong]], and [[Pit (SSBB)|Pit]]
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| |'''16'''||[[Mr. Game and Watch (SSBB)|Mr. Game & Watch]]
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| |'''17'''-'''21'''||[[Lucas (SSBB)|Lucas]], [[R.O.B. (SSBB)|R.O.B.]], [[Bowser (SSBB)|Bowser]], [[Ivysaur (SSBB)|Ivysaur]], and [[Mario (SSBB)|Mario]]
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| |'''22'''||[[Samus (SSBB)|Samus]]
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| |'''23'''-'''24'''||[[Lucario (SSBB)|Lucario]] and [[Falco (SSBB)|Falco]]
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| |'''25'''-'''28'''||[[Olimar (SSBB)|Olimar]], [[Ness (SSBB)|Ness]], [[Wolf (SSBB)|Wolf]], and [[Ice Climbers (SSBB)|Ice Climbers]]
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| |'''29'''-'''30'''||[[Ike (SSBB)|Ike]], and [[Squirtle (SSBB)|Squirtle]]
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| |'''31'''-'''35'''||[[Wario (SSBB)|Wario]], [[Peach (SSBB)|Peach]], [[Snake (SSBB)|Snake]], [[Luigi (SSBB)|Luigi]], and [[Link (SSBB)|Link]]
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| |'''36'''-'''37'''||[[King Dedede (SSBB)|King Dedede]] and [[Zelda (SSBB)|Zelda]]
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| |'''38'''||[[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]]
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| |'''39'''||[[Jigglypuff (SSBB)|Jigglypuff]]
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| |}
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| ===Character air speeds===
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| {|class="wikitable sortable" style="margin:1em auto 1em auto; text-align:center"
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| !Rank!!Character!!Air speed
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| |'''1'''||{{SSBB|Yoshi}}||1.275
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| |'''2'''||{{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}||1.270
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| |'''3'''||{{SSBB|Kirby}}||1.267
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| |'''4'''||{{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}||1.254
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| |'''5'''||{{SSBB|Wario}}||1.38
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| |'''6'''||{{SSBB|Sonic}}||1.1092
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| |'''7'''||{{SSBB|Donkey Kong}}||1.082
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| |'''8'''||{{SSBB|Squirtle}}||1.081
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| |'''9'''||{{SSBB|Mr. Game and Watch}}||1.080
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| |'''10'''||{{SSBB|Lucas}}||1.05
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| |'''11-13'''||{{SSBB|Bowser}}||1.034
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| |'''11-13'''||{{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}}||1.034
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| |'''11-13'''||{{SSBB|Marth}}||1.034
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| |'''14-17'''||{{SSBB|Zelda}}||0.987
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| |'''14-17'''||{{SSBB|Samus}}||0.987
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| |'''14-17'''||{{SSBB|Charizard}}||0.987
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| |'''14-17'''||{{SSBB|Lucario}}||0.987
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| |'''18'''||{{SSBB|Ness}}||0.9588
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| |'''19-21'''||{{SSBB|Mario}}||0.94
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| |'''19-21'''||{{SSBB|Toon Link}}||0.94
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| |'''19-21'''||{{SSBB|Snake}}||0.94
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| |'''22'''||{{SSBB|Ike}}||0.9212
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| |'''23'''||{{SSBB|Pikachu}}||0.9110
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| |'''24'''||{{SSBB|Fox}}||0.9
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| |'''25'''||{{SSBB|Falco}}||0.899
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| |'''26'''||{{SSBB|Pit}}||0.895
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| |'''27'''||{{SSBB|Link}}||0.894
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| |'''28'''||{{SSBB|Wolf}}||0.85
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| |'''29'''||{{SSBB|R.O.B.}}||0.83
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| |'''30'''||{{SSBB|Peach}}||0.864
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| |'''31'''||{{SSBB|Sheik}}||0.846
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| |'''32'''||{{SSBB|Diddy Kong}}||0.8272
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| |'''33'''||{{SSBB|Olimar}}||0.82
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| |'''34'''||{{SSBB|Ganondorf}}||0.8084
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| |'''35'''||{{SSBB|Ice Climbers}}||0.7708
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| |'''36'''||{{SSBB|Meta Knight}}||0.757
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| |'''37'''||{{SSBB|Ivysaur}}||0.752
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| |'''38'''||{{SSBB|Luigi}}||0.750
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| |'''39'''||{{SSBB|King Dedede}}||0.660
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Traction is slightly increased (0.0493 → 0.0582).
