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Yoshi has historically been viewed as borderline nonviable for high level play. He | Yoshi has historically been viewed as borderline nonviable for high level play. He was often accused of having a terrible [[shield]] game, slow attacks, and an inflexible [[recovery]], all of which many top and high tiered characters could easily exploit. Yoshi's advantageous properties, such as his deadly [[double jump cancel]] combos, ability to [[parry]], and [[Yoshi (SSBM)/Up special|flexible projectile]], were not fully developed and written off as gimmicks. While Yoshi would be considered a middle tier character early on, rising as high as 13th on the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)|fifth tier list]], his standing consistently fell after this point, with only {{Sm|Fumi}} and {{Sm|Bringer of Death}} making any significant impacts with him, the latter of whom did so in a very isolated and weak region. By the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)|ninth tier list]], Yoshi had dropped to 22nd place on the tier list, firmly within the bottom tiers and the fifth worst character overall; by this point, Fumi and the other notable Yoshi players retired from ''Melee'', leaving Yoshi's metagame relatively abandoned in the competitive scene. | ||
A couple years later, players such as {{Sm|V3ctorman}} began to use Yoshi in tournaments, revitalizing and innovating his previously stagnant metagame. They pushed Yoshi's [[punish]] game, becoming much more consistent at double jump canceling than Yoshi players in the past, and also showed more innovative uses of [[Egg Throw]], developing it as a zoning and [[edgeguard]]ing tool. Despite these developments, when the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Tenth tier list (December 31, 2010)|tenth tier list]] was released, Yoshi only rose by one spot. Eventually, even V3ctorman suffered from declining tournament placings as more people in his region learned the Yoshi [[matchup]]. The only high-level representation for Yoshi was arguably {{Sm|Leffen}}, who never actually mained him, only using him as a [[secondary]] at locals and dropping him shortly into his career, thus leaving Yoshi's metagame stagnant once again. | A couple years later, players such as {{Sm|V3ctorman}} began to use Yoshi in tournaments, revitalizing and innovating his previously stagnant metagame. They pushed Yoshi's [[punish]] game, becoming much more consistent at double jump canceling than Yoshi players in the past, and also showed more innovative uses of [[Egg Throw]], developing it as a zoning and [[edgeguard]]ing tool. Despite these developments, when the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Tenth tier list (December 31, 2010)|tenth tier list]] was released, Yoshi only rose by one spot, and as a result, was barely out of the bottom tier. Eventually, even V3ctorman suffered from declining tournament placings as more people in his region learned the Yoshi [[matchup]]. The only high-level representation for Yoshi was arguably {{Sm|Leffen}}, who never actually mained him, only using him as a [[secondary]] at locals and dropping him shortly into his career, thus leaving Yoshi's metagame stagnant once again. | ||
In late 2012 to early 2013, however, {{Sm|aMSa}} made his competitive debut in Japan, taking top 8 in a Japanese tournament with only Yoshi. He later placed 25th at [[EVO 2013]], sweeping his pools and taking a game off of {{Sm|Mew2King}}, a placement that convinced the [[Melee Back Room]] to move Yoshi up 3 places on the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Eleventh tier list (July 26th, 2013)|tier list]] following said tournament, making him a borderline mid tier character | In late 2012 to early 2013, however, {{Sm|aMSa}} made his competitive debut in Japan, taking top 8 in a Japanese tournament with only Yoshi. He later placed 25th at [[EVO 2013]], sweeping his pools and taking a game off of {{Sm|Mew2King}}, a placement that convinced the [[Melee Back Room]] to move Yoshi up 3 places on the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Eleventh tier list (July 26th, 2013)|tier list]] following said tournament, making him a borderline mid tier character. aMSa later reappeared with Yoshi in several future tournaments, including [[Apex 2014]] and [[Republic of Fighters 3]], and, to the surprise of many, placed 5th at [[Apex 2015]], defeating several renowned players of top tiered characters, namely {{Sm|Lucky}}, {{Sm|Silent Wolf}}, {{Sm|Fly Amanita}}, and {{Sm|SFAT}}. aMSa's use of Yoshi was considered completely unique from those of Fumi, V3ctorman, and other previous Yoshi mains; he showed usage of parrying and spacing that was previously never seen before, demonstrating that Yoshi's ability to punish errors made by opponents was far greater than expected. Following these performances from aMSa, which far outstripped what players of most middle tier characters could do, Yoshi has risen 6 places in the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Twelfth tier list (December 10th, 2015)|twelfth NTSC tier list]] and 8 places in the third [[PAL Tier List#Third PAL Tier List (March 22nd, 2015)|PAL tier list]], to 12th and 11th respectively, solidifying him as a solid middle tier character. | ||
Yoshi's placement in the current tier list has been a topic of debate since then. Throughout aMSa's earlier years in the scene, many noted his tendency to perform better overseas than in Japan, suggesting that he won mainly through [[matchup]] inexperience. However, in recent times, aMSa's performance has gradually gained momentum; not only has he begun to dominate his region, showing that he has erased any reliance on matchup inexperience from his game, but he has been able to continue placing well at majors, placing 9th at [[GENESIS 5]], 9th at [[GameTyrant Expo 2017]], 7th at [[Full Bloom 4]], 7th at [[Smash Summit 6]], 5th at [[Get On My Level 2018]], and 4th at [[EGLX 2018]], while defeating the likes of players such as {{Sm|Hungrybox}}, {{Sm|Plup}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, {{Sm|Axe}}, {{Sm|Wizzrobe}}, {{Sm|SFAT}}, and many others. As a result of this, aMSa would become ranked 7th on the [[2019 MPGR]], becoming the first top 10 player to main a perceived mid tier character besides Axe since {{Sm|Shroomed}}, who mained Dr. Mario in 2014. aMSa's astounding achievements pushed Yoshi into becoming recognized as a competitively viable character, sitting now at 10th on the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Thirteenth tier list (March 29th, 2021)|thirteenth and current tier list]]. aMSA would then improve even further in the post-COVID-19 era, with him outright winning majors such as {{Trn|The Big House 10}}, {{Trn|Apex 2022}}, and {{Trn|Scuffed World Tour}}, becoming a contender for outright best player in the world, as he would be ranked the second best player after {{Sm|Zain}} on [[SSBMRank 2022]]. Overall, thanks to aMSa, Yoshi has achieved great results, which has increased his representation and pushed his metagame to levels originally thought unfathomable, proving him to be much better than people believed for most of ''Melee''{{'}}s competitive life. | Yoshi's placement in the current tier list has been a topic of debate since then. Throughout aMSa's earlier years in the scene, many noted his tendency to perform better overseas than in Japan, suggesting that he won mainly through [[matchup]] inexperience. However, in recent times, aMSa's performance has gradually gained momentum; not only has he begun to dominate his region, showing that he has erased any reliance on matchup inexperience from his game, but he has been able to continue placing well at majors, placing 9th at [[GENESIS 5]], 9th at [[GameTyrant Expo 2017]], 7th at [[Full Bloom 4]], 7th at [[Smash Summit 6]], 5th at [[Get On My Level 2018]], and 4th at [[EGLX 2018]], while defeating the likes of players such as {{Sm|Hungrybox}}, {{Sm|Plup}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, {{Sm|Axe}}, {{Sm|Wizzrobe}}, {{Sm|SFAT}}, and many others. As a result of this, aMSa would become ranked 7th on the [[2019 MPGR]], becoming the first top 10 player to main a perceived mid tier character besides Axe since {{Sm|Shroomed}}, who mained Dr. Mario in 2014. aMSa's astounding achievements pushed Yoshi into becoming recognized as a competitively viable character, sitting now at 10th on the [[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)#Thirteenth tier list (March 29th, 2021)|thirteenth and current tier list]]. aMSA would then improve even further in the post-COVID-19 era, with him outright winning majors such as {{Trn|The Big House 10}}, {{Trn|Apex 2022}}, and {{Trn|Scuffed World Tour}}, becoming a contender for outright best player in the world, as he would be ranked the second best player after {{Sm|Zain}} on [[SSBMRank 2022]]. Overall, thanks to aMSa, Yoshi has achieved great results, which has increased his representation and pushed his metagame to levels originally thought unfathomable, proving him to be much better than people believed for most of ''Melee''{{'}}s competitive life. |