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| ::Ok, hitlag exists even on shield, but the latest update introduced hitlag multipliers for attacks on shield as well, which were previously used for moves that actually hit, and the multiplier for Mega Man's forward smash actually decreases the amount of hitlag. [[User:Aardvarkian|Aardvarkian]] ([[User talk:Aardvarkian|talk]]) 17:43, 14 October 2015 (EDT) | | ::Ok, hitlag exists even on shield, but the latest update introduced hitlag multipliers for attacks on shield as well, which were previously used for moves that actually hit, and the multiplier for Mega Man's forward smash actually decreases the amount of hitlag. [[User:Aardvarkian|Aardvarkian]] ([[User talk:Aardvarkian|talk]]) 17:43, 14 October 2015 (EDT) |
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| ::Is that right? [[User:Aardvarkian|Aardvarkian]] ([[User talk:Aardvarkian|talk]]) 17:43, 14 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::Yes. As an aside, Marth is the classic example of how hitlag affects safety; because his attacks all have high multipliers on sweetspot and low multipliers on sourspot, the update made him safer on shield at tipper range but less safe close up. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac#top|talk]]) 17:56, 14 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::::Ok. Thanks for the explanation! [[User:Aardvarkian|Aardvarkian]] ([[User talk:Aardvarkian|talk]]) 18:03, 14 October 2015 (EDT)
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| == Answer to [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Double_Dedede.jpg&curid=59210&diff=745722&oldid=745712 this edit summary] ==
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| You do if it's in training mode. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 10:51, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :You can just press home and post to Miiverse or Image Share... um, if you have a New 3DS. I forgot you can't post with a standard 3DS, so I was partly wrong there. I wonder if the glitch is actually exclusive to training, though? There's no info on what causes it. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac#top|talk]]) 10:55, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::There isn't, but I can attempt to replicate it... [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 10:58, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::As far as '''I''' know, the glitch is a mere Easter egg. However, I may be wrong; I do not have [[Dream Land 64]]. This was in the [[Super Smash Bros|original]], too. [[User:ThePikaPlayer]] 11:08, 29 October 2015.
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| ::::That's not the same thing. In Smash 4, Dedede isn't supposed to appear in the background if he's in the battle (an in-game tip says as much). The glitch is when you're playing as him and he does still appear there. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac#top|talk]]) 11:30, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::::Oh, OK. Just checked the tips section. You '''ARE''' right. Sorry, I didn't notice it. [[User:ThePikaPlayer|ThePikaPlayer]] ([[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|talk]]) 17:48, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
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| == Just an opinion ==
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| How good do you think I am as a user? --[[User:BeepYou|BeepYou]] ([[User talk:BeepYou|talk]]) 19:16, 15 November 2015 (EST)
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| :Ooh, I've been put on the spot. Well, it's nice that you value my opinion - not sure what I've done to make you like me so much, heh.
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| :Let's see. I'd say you're among the better contributors around here. You seem quite capable of writing things from scratch, which is valuable - it's something a lot of people struggle with. If I have some criticism for you, it's that you occasionally seem a little too sure of yourself regarding metagame stuff; remember that your instinct isn't always going to be right, and try to verify things before you start saying them. This is something we all need to keep in mind, really; we don't often have people with serious competitive experience helping out, so it may wise to look elsewhere (Smashboards, for example) to see if we really know what we're talking about.
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| :But anyway, my overall opinion of you is positive. I know I've corrected you or disagreed with you on some stuff, but don't worry about it. I don't look down on you or anything like that. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac#top|talk]]) 06:28, 16 November 2015 (EST)
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| == Smash? ==
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| I'd normally upload some relacements for the low-quality gifs, but I'm not really in the mood for that. And because I think you're a great user. I don't ask every random person I find. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 10:58, 14 December 2015 (EST)
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| :You want to play me? Afraid I can't right now. On a weekday you'd have to catch me in the evening, ideally between 8 and 10 PM UK time. Weekends are better. Thanks for the compliment, in any case! [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac#top|talk]]) 11:06, 14 December 2015 (EST)
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| ::Oh right, it's Monday... Well ok, in a few days then. Or ask me if you see me around. And, you're welcome! [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 11:18, 14 December 2015 (EST)
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| == Let's Smash ==
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| Zyrac, I accept. I can play Smash with you as of right now. But only on the 3DS version. Looking forward for it! My FC is on my user page. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black"> '''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 18:20, 18 December 2015 (EST)
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| :Oop, sorry, I was off playing With Anyone and it's getting late here now. I'll try and catch you during the weekend. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 19:55, 18 December 2015 (EST)
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| == Blurring Blade ==
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| Hey, any way you could check the in-game custom description to make sure that's correct? Thanks <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 08:53, 14 January 2016 (EST)
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| :Yes, my PAL copy of Smash 3DS calls the move Blade Flurry. I checked all the other Mii Fighter move names earlier today as well. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 09:04, 14 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::Oh you have PAL...I'm trying to figure out if the ''Description'' ("A flurry of sword slashes. Charge it longer for extra power") is correct. It's probably for the PAL version. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 09:12, 14 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::Ah, right. Yeah, that's the PAL description. You'd have to get the NTSC one from someone or somewhere else. The other move descriptions don't match my game, so they are presumably the NTSC ones already. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 09:17, 14 January 2016 (EST)
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| == Duel ==
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| Are you up for Smash? I don't have anything better to do for now, so... [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 11:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :What I said last time you asked still applies - I'm not very available for games during the week, unfortunately. I could manage in a few hours if you're still free then, though. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 11:37, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::Right, I forgot about that. If you're free in... 2-4 hours, then okay. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 11:40, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::That works. I'll message you. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 11:47, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| == looking through your contributions and... ==
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| i think you might have enough vandal reverts to complete a rollback draft. just go through your contributions and find three reverts of vandals! [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 17:47, 23 February 2016 (EST)
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| :Thanks, but I'm aware. I've just never bothered to apply for rollback because I don't see the need. I feel like I'd mostly just be giving myself something to click on by accident. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 04:08, 24 February 2016 (EST)
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| == Now that you're here... ==
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| I'm rewriting Jigglypuff's "Attributes" section right now. Any suggestions on what I should emphasise? '''[[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Crimson">Drill Blaster Mark</font> <font color="Silver">2</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Black">(talk)</font>]]'' 05:09, 7 April 2016 (EDT)
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| :Well you could talk about [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YirBCewQIgw ways of landing Rest]; that's something the page is kinda missing right now. Other than that I mostly stand by the gist of how it is now - Puff gets early kills with edgeguarding and Rest, but hates shields (I think the shieldstun patch was good for her) and dies easily. Very much a high-risk character, which tends to be a bad thing in high-level play - you have to be consistent to win tournaments. I don't really agree that her grounded moveset is "terrible" - some of her ground moves are pretty good in and of themselves, they're just kinda hard to use because of the bad mobility and range. To be honest though, I don't have too much knowledge of how other people play this character (I use Pound a lot but I think that's just me); I should look up some tournament vids sometime. I'd also like to see more mention of doubles since she's better there, but that's something character pages in general are lacking. Nobody ever seems to talk about doubles. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 05:41, 7 April 2016 (EDT)
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| ::I see. I also agree with Puff's underrated ground game. She doesn't have a single move that deals less than 9%. It has everything but range, honestly. But anyway, I appreciate the help. '''[[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Crimson">Drill Blaster Mark</font> <font color="Silver">2</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Black">(talk)</font>]]'' 05:50, 7 April 2016 (EDT)
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| == {{Sm|ZeRo}} ==
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| My bad, I was the one who wrote that part. :( [[File:PenroImage.png|19px]][[User:Penro|<font color="orange">'''Pen'''</font><font color="gold">'''ro'''</font>]] 11:55, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
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| :No worries. My comment was more about the general overuse of "however" than that paragraph specifically. And I do understand it's easy to overrely on certain words when writing. Just gotta break out the thesaurus sometimes if it's getting repetitive. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 14:15, 28 June 2016 (EDT)
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| == Hey you ==
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| <s>Get off of my cloud!</s> Can I add you on Wii U's friend list? You seem like a very interesting person... and i like to just mess around in Smash more than fight [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 13:02, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
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| :You can go ahead if you want. I'm not really a fan of messing around without fighting, but I'd happily play on whatever wacky settings you like. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 13:08, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Way past cool! (That's my way of saying thank you) [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 13:11, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
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| == Eyyy ==
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| Long time no talk to you, eh? Only wanted to give you some advice: don't hold back on how much info you're gonna add to a character's tier placement and history. If it's necessary, you can extend yourself as much as you need (not excessively, though) when writing about a character that was at first good, then dwindled as the meta advanced, and viceversa with bad characters like Mewtwo. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': I told y'all she wasn't bottom tier!''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 05:46, 23 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :As the size of this page suggests, people don't talk to me much in general - but that's my own fault for not being sociable. Anyway, I do think it's important to be concise when possible and not slip into writing stuff that's redundant with the rest of the page, but if there really is a lot to be said then it's fine to go ahead and say it. I'm only so confident in what I know about community perceptions, though. And of course, you can feel free to expand on what I write if you want. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 05:55, 23 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::I could expand a bit on both Villager's and Puff's sections, when you finish in the ase of the former. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': I told y'all she wasn't bottom tier!''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 05:58, 23 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::I wasn't gonna add anything else to them, at least not for now. So you can go ahead. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 06:01, 23 August 2016 (EDT)
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| == Congrats ==
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| For entering into the Replay Hut :) --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 11:20, 20 September 2016 (EDT)
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| :I confess I was waiting for someone to notice. Thanks! And hey, Palutena is A-tier waifu, not bad. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 11:28, 20 September 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Waifu tiers r 4 queers ''kappa'' --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 11:48, 20 September 2016 (EDT)
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| == Cloud's Climhazzard Code ==
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| [https://ssbworld.com/blog/104/explaining-untechable-situations] Ruben says it is intentional here, and I would agree, since this seems to be the only move in the game with such a weakness, and it's on a character that has a bad recovery by default. [[User:Smashgold347238|<span style="color:#D4AF37">Gold</span>]] [[file:Goldsig.png|20px|link=User talk:Smashgold347238]] 23:43, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
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| :Alright, that makes sense, the flag thing doesn't sound like it could be a mistake. I added back the "intentionally" with that page as a source. Weird how it doesn't happen when reeling though. [[File:Zyrac sig.png]] <font face="Lucida Console">[[User:Zyrac|<font color="green">'''Zyrac'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:Zyrac|<font color="green">talk</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/Zyrac|<font color="green">contribs</font>]])</small></font> 05:03, 2 June 2017 (EDT)
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