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|+'''Super Smash Bros. Brawl Character Matchups'''
|+'''Super Smash Bros. Brawl Character Matchups'''
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| ||[[Image:MetaKnightHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SnakeHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:KingDededeHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:MrGame&WatchHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:MarthHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:DiddyKongHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:WarioHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ROBHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LucarioHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:OlimarHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PikachuHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:KirbyHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:DonkeyKongHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:IceClimbersHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ZeroSuitSamusHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ToonLinkHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PitHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PeachHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:WolfHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LuigiHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ZeldaHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:BowserHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:FoxHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SheikHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:IkeHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:MarioHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LucasHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:NessHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SamusHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SonicHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PokémonTrainerHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:CharizardHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:IvysaurHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SquirtleHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:YoshiHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LinkHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:JigglypuffHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:GanondorfHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:CaptainFalconHead.png|20px]]||Avg.|| 
| ||[[Image:MetaKnightHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SnakeHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:DededeHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:GWHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:MarthHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:DiddyHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:WarioHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ROBHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LucarioHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:OlimarHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PikachuHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:KirbyHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:DKHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:IceClimbersHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ZSSHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ToonLinkHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PitHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PeachHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:WolfHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LuigiHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:ZeldaHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:BowserHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:FoxHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SheikHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:IkeHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:MarioHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LucasHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:NessHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SamusHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SonicHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:PTHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:CharizardHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:IvysaurHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:SquirtleHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:YoshiHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:LinkHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:JigglypuffHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:GanondorfHead.png|20px]]||[[Image:CFalconHead.png|20px]]||Avg.|| 
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|[[Image:DededeHead.png|20px]]||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|35|20}}||{{Matchup|M|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|45|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|35|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|45|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|70|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|70|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|45|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||[[Image:DededeHead.png|20px]]
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|[[Image:LinkHead.png|20px]]||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|35|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|M|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|45|20}}||[[Image:LinkHead.png|20px]]
|[[Image:LinkHead.png|20px]]||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|30|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|35|20}}||{{Matchup|SH|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|50|20}}||{{Matchup|60|20}}||{{Matchup|55|20}}||{{Matchup|40|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|M|20}}||{{Matchup|N|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|SE|20}}||{{Matchup|45|20}}||[[Image:LinkHead.png|20px]]
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:Actually, it's because of his recovery that Link is bottom tier and has such poor matchups. If he had the Clawshot longer, Link can avoid gimps. If Link had better air speed and his Spin Attack is not such crap, Link can't be as edge-guarded. In SSB64 it is also the reason why Link is 2nd last. It has always been because of the recovery that make Link bottom tier. Only in Melee this did not happen. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 23:02, 18 December 2010 (EST)
:Actually, it's because of his recovery that Link is bottom tier and has such poor matchups. If he had the Clawshot longer, Link can avoid gimps. If Link had better air speed and his Spin Attack is not such crap, Link can't be as edge-guarded. In SSB64 it is also the reason why Link is 2nd last. It has always been because of the recovery that make Link bottom tier. Only in Melee this did not happen. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 23:02, 18 December 2010 (EST)
::Yeah, so in this case, Link's matchups are mostly bad. Also Link is sort of easy to combo and kind of slow and those could be other reasons why he's bottom tier in the 1st and 3rd smash game. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 23:07, 18 December 2010 (EST)
::Yeah, so in this case, Link's matchups are mostly bad. Also Link is sort of easy to combo and kind of slow and those could be other reasons why he's bottom tier in the 1st and 3rd smash game. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 23:07, 18 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah. But those aren't severe (well in some cases) but did not you see Link's Attribute page in Link SSBB and his info in Link SSB. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 23:10, 18 December 2010 (EST)
::::Well, characters who have a good gimping game like MK, D3, Sheik, and Puff are pretty much bad matchups for Link (Don't know about puff though, although not so great) and characters who are large and can't gimp and recover well have a bad matchup against Link like Bowser and Ganon. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 23:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Bowser is a 50:50. Ganon 60:40. Notice the difference? [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 23:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)
::::::Oh by the way, you know SSF2 right? Check this out. http://smashflashbackroom.englishboards.com/t97-official-tier-list-for-version-06?highlight=tier+list [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 23:34, 18 December 2010 (EST)

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