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| ::::I was not accusing you of calling people names. I merely said (and still say) that refusing to listen to people just because they're not moderators (even acting like it), is a dreadful attitude to have. It matters not how strongly you feel about the circumstances surrounding your revert, or how right you think you are (as it is, I would want to discuss the matter on a talk page somewhere first), the wiki is a joint effort, and as such, behaving in such an overtly aggressive matter is definitely not on. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 07:39, December 12, 2020 (EST) | | ::::I was not accusing you of calling people names. I merely said (and still say) that refusing to listen to people just because they're not moderators (even acting like it), is a dreadful attitude to have. It matters not how strongly you feel about the circumstances surrounding your revert, or how right you think you are (as it is, I would want to discuss the matter on a talk page somewhere first), the wiki is a joint effort, and as such, behaving in such an overtly aggressive matter is definitely not on. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 07:39, December 12, 2020 (EST) |
| :::::Yet again, not what happened: The "moderator" comment was only about the initiative to hide a whole trivia section, nothing to do with the people who disagreed with me prior to that edit, nothing to do with refusing to listen to people, not only I didn't refuse to listen to people, but I actually factored in their inputs: When the first edit was made, I put the trivia back with context as a compromise between removing the trivia and letting it as it was, when the second edit was made, I put the trivia back again with the context again, but this time hidden in a comment as another compromise between removing the trivia and adding a context that is not relevant yet. How can you tell me that I didn't listen when it litterally went "no spirit" then "no spirit in the base game" and then "no spirit<!- in the base game->"? The only thing I pointed out as "moderating" was hiding the whole trivia section, not the prior edits. "Refusing to listen to people just because they're not moderators", that did not happen. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 08:10, December 12, 2020 (EST) | | :::::Yet again, not what happened: The "moderator" comment was only about the initiative to hide a whole trivia section, nothing to do with the people who disagreed with me prior to that edit, nothing to do with refusing to listen to people, not only I didn't refuse to listen to people, but I actually factored in their inputs: When the first edit was made, I put the trivia back with context as a compromise between removing the trivia and letting it as it was, when the second edit was made, I put the trivia back again with the context again, but this time hidden in a comment as another compromise between removing the trivia and adding a context that is not relevant yet. How can you tell me that I didn't listen when it litterally went "no spirit" then "no spirit in the base game" and then "no spirit<!- in the base game->"? The only thing I pointed out as "moderating" was hiding the whole trivia section, not the prior edits. "Refusing to listen to people just because they're not moderators", that did not happen. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 08:10, December 12, 2020 (EST) |
| :::::In fact, I have more to say about that. Look at this from a fresh perspective: Someone hid a whole section. I reverted it with the summary "you're not a moderator". That's it. And the two of you have described that as not only "not listening", but also as "an extremely poor attitude", "abusive", and "agressive"... Reading that, it sounds like I got into a fistfight... Yeah, you're right, you didn't tell me I called them names, but your surely scolding me as if I did. Abusive? Seriously? It's a bit excessive, don't you think? Why is that that you read "you're not a moderator" as "shut the fuck up", do I sound like someone who put subtext in my sentences? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 08:49, December 12, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::Removing an entire trivia section (although that wording is misleading given how short it was) is perfectly valid if none of the listed trivia is appropriate. If you disagreed with that assessment of the trivia, the correct courses of action are A: to undo or partially undo the edit with an explanation, or B: to raise the issue on the talk page. Belittling other users because they are not moderators is not an appropriate course of action, as in this case it is completely irrelevant, and getting aggressive in the summary is always a no no. Language like "for fuck sake people, stop changing this page" can come across as an attack to the people who are editing the page in question, not to mention that you don't get to control how frequently an article gets edited, ESPECIALLY during a period of high traffic. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 08:57, December 12, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::::*They did not remove the entire trivia section, they hid it. This is why I'm 100% this person was trying to "moderate" what they (wrongfully) saw as an edit war.
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| :::::::*Telling someone that they're not a moderator is not belittling them. I'm not a moderator either, i'm flabbergasted that you can think that I would be belittling another user by pointing out they're not moderator.
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| :::::::*As for partially undo the edit, I didn't see there was other things in that edit before after someone else put those back. The summary only said "its better to hide the Trivia until Sephiroth is released". Had I seen that right away, I would have only removed the comment tags instead of clicking "undo".
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| :::::::*You're misrepresenting the "ffs" part as being a thing on its own (not willingly, I know, don't get defensive), it wasn't, it was followed by an explanation. I didn't ask people to never edit this page again, I specifically asked to stop removing that particular trivia point.
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| :::::::And now I'm starting to get quite annoyed, you know why? Because the three of you are here telling me that people could feel attacked, all the while calling me abusive, agressive, telling me that I have an extremely poor attitude, and other stuffs... How do you think I feel about that? Attacked, that's how. You could have been "be careful, you're being rude, people might feel attacked", but no, you directly went all out... Why "extremely poor attitude", did you think "poor attitude" wouldn't be enough? Do I really deserve to be called "abusive" for that. Don't worry, I won't take it personally, I know you're only trying to defuse a situation, but I'm telling you all, and I hope you'll get that this time, that there is nothing to defuse here, and that maybe you should consider that, when you call someone out on their talk page, you should not be "stop being an asshole" right away (and please, don't answer that by telling me you didn't tell me I'm a asshole, I know you didn't, I'm just showing you how it feels). Now we can keep going back and forth about that, but I don't really feel like you're even listening to what I'm saying (or we can just call it a day, because so far, this is honnestly going nowhere). [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 09:48, December 12, 2020 (EST)
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| I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but if you're trying to sandbox, you don't use your talk page for that. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 07:00, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| :This: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Talk:List_of_spirits_(disambiguation)#Reworking_the_layout_of_the_spirits_pages [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 07:01, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| ::Don't use your page as a sandbox as removing talk page content is not allowed, plus thats not what talk pages are for. Use SmashWiki:Sandbox or your own user space to do it. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 07:03, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| :::More explanation please? What's my "own user space"? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 07:06, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| ::::Your userpage, mate. You know, [[User:YoshiRyu|this one]]. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 07:07, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| :::::Ok, I thought "user space" was somethinh else I didn't know about. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 07:16, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| :::::By making a user page like "User:YoshiRyu/Sandbox" for example, in user space you can make whatever drafts you want. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 07:08, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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| ::::::Ok, done. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu#top|talk]]) 07:16, February 21, 2021 (EST)
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