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| :Hello? Are you listening to what i said? Come on, answer me.[[User:Vittorio Fedele|Vittorio Fedele]] ([[User talk:Vittorio Fedele#top|talk]]) 13:45, February 11, 2020 (EST) | | :Hello? Are you listening to what i said? Come on, answer me.[[User:Vittorio Fedele|Vittorio Fedele]] ([[User talk:Vittorio Fedele#top|talk]]) 13:45, February 11, 2020 (EST) |
| ::There is such a think as being away from keys. Do not expect an immediate answer at all times. Anyway, edits are meant to be taken seriously. If you have something that isn't meant to be taken serious, don't hit the submit button. No one is treating you unfairly that I have seen. If you think otherwise, link me to those edits. This wiki is not for subjectivity: claims on this wiki have to be backed up by actual facts. If you want to talk subjectively about stuff, there are other outlets, such as our [[SW:DISCORD|discord server]]. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:51, February 11, 2020 (EST) | | ::There is such a think as being away from keys. Do not expect an immediate answer at all times. Anyway, edits are meant to be taken seriously. If you have something that isn't meant to be taken serious, don't hit the submit button. No one is treating you unfairly that I have seen. If you think otherwise, link me to those edits. This wiki is not for subjectivity: claims on this wiki have to be backed up by actual facts. If you want to talk subjectively about stuff, there are other outlets, such as our [[SW:DISCORD|discord server]]. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:51, February 11, 2020 (EST) |
| Ok, it's just that Omegatoad64 didn't liked the fact that i wanted Pikachu to be nerfed, but i had my reasons for it. And about Kirby, in his page, i put a couple of times that due to the changes to his moveset, his KO potential has improved, but even that got removed. Not the entirety of the edit has to be removed. Besides i noticed that in this Discord server, i have to make an account with my email address. I already made an account on an Italian Wiki of Super Mario, since i'm Italian, but like this i can't discuss in this server. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Vittorio Fedele|Vittorio Fedele]] ([[User talk:Vittorio Fedele|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vittorio Fedele|contribs]]) 14:13, February 11, 2020</small> | | Ok, it's just that Omegatoad64 didn't liked the fact that i wanted Pikachu to be nerfed, but i had my reasons for it. And about Kirby, in his page, i put a couple of times that due to the changes to his moveset, his KO potential has improved, but even that got removed. Not the entirety of the edit has to be removed. |
| :"''didn't liked the fact that i wanted Pikachu to be nerfed, but i had my reasons for it''"
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| :Regardless of your reasons or the fact that Pikachu is one of the best characters in the game, opinions don't belong in wiki articles, period. The only exception we make is for notable top players, which is already done by mentioning that ZeRo considers Pikachu to be broken; top players have much more experience and knowledge of the game to properly support their opinion.
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| :"''i put a couple of times that due to the changes to his moveset, his KO potential has improved, but even that got removed''"
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| :Okay, you have a point here, but this isn't the ''only'' thing you've been adding to the page. You also keep tampering with the wording and structure to make it seem like Kirby is significantly better than in previous games, when that's not the case. Even if the information itself is true, this is a misinterpretation that doesn't belong, and regardless of whether or not your intention is to make Kirby look better than he actually is, you should stop trying to repeatedly change how the page is structured, when that job has been already done in a more neutral way by more knowledgeable contributors. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 14:41, February 11, 2020 (EST)
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| :"''Ok, it's just that Omegatoad64 didn't liked the fact that i wanted Pikachu to be nerfed''"
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| :I never said I don't "liked" your opinion, I just don't agree with it. And even if I didn't like it, what does that have to do with you or this wiki? You trying to force me to agree with your opinions will not get you anywhere so don't waste your time. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 23:06, February 11, 2020 (EST)
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| No offense, but i just ''said'' something, not forced an opinion. Maybe ''you'' forced an opinion on me.[[User:Vittorio Fedele|Vittorio Fedele]] ([[User talk:Vittorio Fedele#top|talk]]) 08:11, February 12, 2020 (EST)
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| :This discussion clearly isn't going anywhere, and it's evident that everyone is getting fed up with it. The bottom line is this: you are of course entitled to your opinions, but if they blatantly contradict the views of the community as a whole, then they don't belong in articles. We can't simply put every old sod's opinion in our articles, which is why we list the general perceptions of the characters, and only include specific opinions when they come from a smasher with a significant presence in the competitive scene.
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| :If you want to discuss your views of the balancing of characters, do it on the Discord server, and not here. Inserting your personal opinions into articles ''is'' forcing your opinions onto the Wiki, and is not acceptable. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 08:21, February 12, 2020 (EST)
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| :Once again you're accusing me of bad faith despite a bureaucrat telling you to stop. I never forced any opinions, I stated actual facts. It's ''you'' who thinks Pikachu is broken (which he is not) and ''you'' said you don't like that I didn't agree with you.
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| :Reguardless of what you claim, you keep changing the wording to make Pikachu look like he's absolutley broken (not broken like Brawl Meta Knight, but more like he's the absolute best character in the game, which is questionable), and making Kirby look much netter than he actually is. If you haven't, have a thorough read of [[SW:NPOV]], [[SW:WAR]], [[SW:NPA]] and [[SW:BTALK]], and if you have then start actually following those policies for once. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 08:25, February 12, 2020 (EST)
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| == Do you use the SSBU Calculator? ==
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| For the recent changes in Kirby's page, i'm using the SSBU Calculator you can find on Kurogame Hammer's page. I used to specify the percentages in which an attack will start KOing on some specific positions. Did you ever used it? [[User:Vittorio Fedele|Vittorio Fedele]] ([[User talk:Vittorio Fedele#top|talk]]) 10:08, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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