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| ==External links vandalism== | | ==External Links vandalism== |
| Can you not? We've been linking to wikia's for franchise's that dont have standard wiki's since before ''SSB4'', going around and removing the external links on the castlevania character profiles can be considered a form of vandalism. I'm undoing this mess right now, and I advise that you don't do it again.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 04:18, 13 August 2018 (EDT) | | Can you not? We've been linking to wikia's for franchise's that dont have standard wiki's since before ''SSB4'', going around and removing the external links on the castlevania character profiles can be considered a form of vandalism. I'm undoing this mess right now, and I advise that you don't do it again.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 04:18, 13 August 2018 (EDT) |
| :It's not really ''vandalism'' but yeah, the externals to castlevania wiki are fine. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:16, 13 August 2018 (EDT) | | :It's not really ''vandalism'' but yeah, the externals to castlevania wiki are fine. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:16, 13 August 2018 (EDT) |
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| In all versions of Marth's games, Shadow Dragon and Mystery of the Emblem, the weapon is only ever referred to as Falchion in both languages. Actually the idea of Falchion needing to be powered up is something that isn't in Archanea at all. Remember as well the Fire Emblem was broken apart for hundreds of years in Marth's times and unlike in Awakening, it wasn't a blood locked weapon. [[User:Delsait|Delsait]] ([[User talk:Delsait|talk]]) 17:26, May 27, 2020 (EDT) | | In all versions of Marth's games, Shadow Dragon and Mystery of the Emblem, the weapon is only ever referred to as Falchion in both languages. Actually the idea of Falchion needing to be powered up is something that isn't in Archanea at all. Remember as well the Fire Emblem was broken apart for hundreds of years in Marth's times and unlike in Awakening, it wasn't a blood locked weapon. [[User:Delsait|Delsait]] ([[User talk:Delsait|talk]]) 17:26, May 27, 2020 (EDT) |
| :It's a retcon, but it's still the simplest way to clarify the difference. Even if Marth's appearances are not canon to his story personally, SoV, Heroes, and Warriors are still official Fire Emblem games, so Exalted Falchion is a canon name. But most importantly, [[Palutena's Guidance#Chrom|it's the name Smash Bros. uses]], and that's what this wiki covers. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 17:30, May 27, 2020 (EDT) | | :It's a retcon, but it's still the simplest way to clarify the difference. Even if Marth's appearances are not canon to his story personally, SoV, Heroes, and Warriors are still official Fire Emblem games, so Exalted Falchion is a canon name. But most importantly, [[Palutena's Guidance#Chrom|it's the name Smash Bros. uses]], and that's what this wiki covers. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 17:30, May 27, 2020 (EDT) |
| :: The Warriors names Chrom's Falchion as simply the ''Falchion'', no sealed mention and only one variant of Marth in ''Heroes'' using an Exalted Falchion, the others just use a weapon called ''Falchion.'' If its the name, Palutena's guidance uses fine, but it should be noted that Marth's weapon is only ever called the ''Exalted Falchion'' in spinoff. Unlike in Awakening, Falchion did not contain Naga's spiritual essence nor was it a blood locked weapon like the {{s|fireemblemwiki|Naga (tome)}} was. [[User:Delsait|Delsait]] ([[User talk:Delsait|talk]]) 17:37, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
| | : The Warriors names Chrom's Falchion as simply the ''Falchion'', no sealed mention and only one variant of Marth in ''Heroes'' using an Exalted Falchion, the others just use a weapon called ''Falchion.'' If its the name, Palutena's guidance uses fine, but it should be noted that Marth's weapon is only ever called the ''Exalted Falchion'' in spinoff. Unlike in Awakening, Falchion did not contain Naga's spiritual essence nor was it a blood locked weapon like the {{s|fireemblemwiki|Naga (tome)}} was. [[User:Delsait|Delsait]] ([[User talk:Delsait|talk]]) 17:37, May 27, 2020 (EDT) |
| :::"Exalted Falchion" is a translation of the Japanese term {{ja|神剣ファルシオン|Shinken Falchion}}, which is used sparingly through the Archanea games and was translated in ''Shadow Dragon''{{'}}s English script as "the divine blade Falchion". "Exalted" is the newer term and is used for Marth's Falchion in ''Shadows of Valentia'' as well as ''Heroes'' and ''Warriors'', in addition to the Palutena's Guidance conversation. And Chrom's sword is named {{ja|封剣ファルシオン|Fuuken Falchion}} in Japanese across all appearances, which is generally translated as just "Falchion", but "Sealed Falchion" is used in ''Heroes''. When the blade awakens its true power, it's renamed "Exalted Falchion" like Marth's blade to reflect that it's returned to its original power from the Archanea games. The main point is to clearly distinguish the three versions of the blade, so "Exalted Falchion" is used for Marth's to match Palutena's Guidance and "Sealed Falchion" is used for Chrom's to match ''Heroes''. You can see more detail about it [[fireemblemwiki:Falchion (Archanea)#Etymology and other languages|here]]. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 18:41, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::: Archanea's Falchion was ''not'' a Holy Blood weapon and the Binding Shield had been broken for years by the time Marth got it. Any lore about the Falchion needing the full binding Shield to be a full power or being blood locked only applies to Awakening. Read about it here {{s|fireemblemwiki|Holy Blood}} and here, {{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire_Emblem_(Archanean_item)}}. In general, Awakening has a lot of things that aren't explained in relation to Archanea and many flat out errors within the script. In Archanea lore, Falchion was an incredibly strong sword but it wasn't locked to humans with dragon infused blood and Marth had none of it nor did Anri. The Fire Emblem was made for sealing dragons rather then awakening them or powering Falchion. Even within Awakening, itself, it is said the Falchion wasn't powered up by Naga and blood locked until 1000 years after the death of Marth in the days of the {{s|fireemblemwiki|Founder of Ylisse}}. [[User:Delsait|Delsait]] ([[User talk:Delsait|talk]]) 21:43, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::::Here's the thing: [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not Wikipedia|We're a Smash Bros wiki]], we do things the way they are in Smash Bros. If Smash uses "exalted" we use that, plus we use it to distinguish it between the three Falchions. Furthermore you violated [[SW:WAR]] so just leave things be for now. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<small><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></small>]]'''</span> 22:09, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
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| ==Min Min's costumes 5-8==
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| I posted on the Alternate costume talk page, but nobody seems to respond there, so I'm asking you since you edit that page a lot. Would Min Min's costumes 5-8 be references to Spring Man, Mechanica, Ribbon Girl, and Max Brass respectively? They seem like similar colorations. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 23:04, June 22, 2020 (EDT)
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| == ARMS and masks. ==
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| Before this breaks out into an edit war I want to point you to [https://imgur.com/a/1DqBUKk these images] from the in game gallery of ''ARMS'' . The text in the first lines up with what's a presented in the comic. There's an old Tweet from Nintendo from back before the game's release with the same image that states that ARMS return to "normal" without the mask, but I think the translation might have been inaccurate or unintentionally ambiguous. "Normal" in this case likely refers to the state of the ARMS being uncontrollable. The in game text stating that ARMS users lose control without their masks is likely more accurate and better matches what's consistently depicted in the game and comic. The latter images both have illustrations of people who visibly have the ARMS ability not wearing masks, showing that the traits are still active even without it. The second also further goes into the issue of trying to control ARMS without a mask and depicts a maskless ARMS user struggling to do so.
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| EDIT: Looks like the imgur link isn't working quite right. If you get a 404 error and there's a "%7C" at the end of URL then delete it and it should work I think.
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| [[User:NuFace|NuFace]] ([[User talk:NuFace|talk]]) 22:07, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| :The main thing here is that, since Sakurai directly mentioned working with ''ARMS'' dev team, I doubt they'd go back on canon information. The literal translation of the info in the tweet is as such; {{ja|マスクを外せば、普通の腕に戻れる優れもの。|''Masuku o hazuseba, futsū no ude ni modoreru suguremono.''}} "If you remove the mask, you can return to normal arms (''futsū no ude'')." There's not much ambiguity to that; it's "arms that are normal", not "the normal state of the arms". It's maybe not black-and-white; if you wanted to stretch you could say that ''both'' are canon, that the ARMS return to normal but have the risk of becoming uncoiled. I wouldn't mind readding the info about the ARMS becoming uncontrollable, but my main point is that there's evidence to back up the depiction in Min Min's trailer, and it doesn't totally diverge from canon. It's mainly a problem because it hasn't been depicted anywhere else. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 22:20, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::(Also, I got the imgur link working fine, and I see what you mean about the in-game text, yeah.) ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 22:20, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::I went ahead and looked up [https://twitter.com/ARMS_Cobutter/status/879896899624484864 the other Tweet in question], and here's what it says: {{ja|腕の状態が、意志に関係なく切り替わる現象が「マスク」により解決。伸びる腕で安定した殴り合いが実現したことで、競技化への気運が急速に高まることになる。|Ude no jōtai ga, ishi ni kankei naku kirikawaru genshō ga `masuku' ni yori kaiketsu. Nobiru ude de antei shita naguriai ga jitsugen shita koto de, kyōgi-ka e no kiun ga kyūsoku ni takamaru koto ni naru.}} "The 'Mask' solves the phenomenon where the arms switch states unwillingly. With this stability, outstretched arms can punch cleanly, so the motivation to compete rapidly increased." In other words, at least by the Japanese text, the mask actually controls the ''state'' of the arms (''ude no jōtai''), either regular human arms or coiled ARMS. Putting on the mask just causes them to be coiled all the time. The English text seems to have used a less literal translation, so I think that's likely the deciding factor here... ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 22:40, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| :With all that in mind, I re-added the info you mentioned. It admittedly makes it a bit ramble-y, and could probably be cleaned up further, but the gist of it is that there is evidence that both supports and contradicts Min Min's human arms in the trailer. We probably won't know until we get something that goes into more depth about what happens when you remove the mask (a potential sequel?). I'm more than willing to hear you out if you have any comments about this, and sorry for the flood of replies. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 23:17, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| [[File:Wiki.png|thumb|Welcome!]]
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| Welcome to our wiki, and thank you for your contributions! There's a lot to do around here, so I hope you'll stay with us and make many more improvements.
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| :'''[[SmashWiki:Read This First, Man|Read this first]]''' as it provides many great resources designed to help users get oriented with the wiki and become part of the community.
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| :Visit the '''[[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]]''' to see what other people are editing right this minute, and where you can help.
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| :'''Questions?''' You can ask at the {{S|Forum|help desk}} or on the [[Help:Talk page|"discussion" page]] associated with each article, or post a message on [[User talk:OmegaToad64|my talk page]]!
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| :'''Need help?''' The {{s|SmashWiki|community portal}} has an outline of the site, and pages to help you learn how to edit.
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| I'm really happy to have you here, and look forward to working with you!
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| :[[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Toαd</font>]]''' 23:58, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
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| You've been here longer than me and no one's welcomed you??? [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Toαd</font>]]''' 23:58, July 3, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Goldeen voice actor ==
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| Hey, I noticed that in 2019 [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Goldeen&diff=1164720&oldid=1164414 you added] that Goldeen was voiced by Veronica Taylor in Super Smash Bros. 64. Where does this information come from? I noticed it was missing from Bulbapedia, but wanted to make sure it was properly sourced. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:03, August 18, 2020 (EDT)
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| : It was listed on the [[List of voice actors]] page. I'm not sure where ''that'' came from, so it might be worth looking at the in-game credits to double-check. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 15:13, August 18, 2020 (EDT)
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| ==Shield==
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| Why is the original phrasing on [[Shield#Steve's shield|Steve's shield]] is better? [[User:Kuro-san.|Kuro-san.]] ([[User talk:Kuro-san.|talk]]) 02:36, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Because the words you were using before (assuming it was you) are of a more critical tone, which [[SW:NPOV|should be avoided]]. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 04:00, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::I understand. I will keep that in mind from now on, thank you (also, that '''was''' me). [[Special:Contributions/112.137.84.74|112.137.84.74]] 05:30, October 7, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Bringing up an editing habit of yours ==
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| So I've noticed that throughout your time on SmashWiki, you've made several edits at a time rather than doing all of them in one go (a recent example being with your latest edits on the Ganondorf page).
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| Considering you've been editing for SmashWiki for a long time (even longer than I have been), I think you should be aware of this by now:
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| By using Show Preview, you're able to view and catch any mistakes you have made before saving your draft.
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| That being said, I've noticed one of your edit summaries on Ganondorf's page states "sorry i keep noticing little things", so maybe the issue is that some things keep coming to your mind immediately after you save your draft (in all honesty, this is a habit I do have from time to time). In that case, I think the best solution is to just keep rereading your draft several times until you get one that you're fully satisfied with. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 04:30, May 18, 2021 (EDT)
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| :Yep, I'm totally aware of the "show preview" button... I just completely forget it exists when I get into an editing frame of mind and constantly make little tweaks and additions. That's why I tend to apologize when I make a lot of edits, because I realize too late that I should've been using "show preview" rather than clogging up the recent changes. I'll definitely keep that last point in mind, since I haven't previously thought about doing that. Thanks for reaching out to me. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 04:35, May 18, 2021 (EDT)
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