Editing User talk:Omega Tyrant

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I have email notifications turned on for whenever someone edits my talkpage, so even if I'm not around, I will be notified and will come around to check it out. You can also find me on Discord, where I go by the same name and have an avi of R.O.B. holding a Cacodemon plushie. If it's urgent and I'm not on here nor on the Discord, you can try messaging me on my [https://twitter.com/TheOmegaTyrant Twitter], my [http://www.youtube.com/user/OmegaTyrant4792 Youtube], and my [https://xx.reddit.com/user/OmegaTyrant/ reddit account]. You can also private message me on Discord, on those latter three accounts, and on email, if you want to speak to me privately for whatever reason.

I play Ultimate with anyone that challenges me, regardless of their skill level, as long as your internet connection is decent and you don't whine when you lose. If you want to play me, contact me here or on one of the other suggested contact methods.

== Two things ==

(1)Many of my edits are usually erased, why does this keep happening?

(2)Do you have the 3ds version of Smash 4 or the Wii u version? I think I might want to challenge you sometime, but I only have the 3ds version.[[User:Rimigafob|Rimigafob]] ([[User talk:Rimigafob|talk]]) 13:45, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

:If you edits are getting reverted, you should read the edit summary of the edits reverting yours to see why your edit got reverted. And I have both versions, but as said on my userpage, I really dislike 3DS controls for Smash, so I won't play people on the 3DS version. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:35, 11 May 2017 (EDT)

== Flame Choke ==

Hey, a while back I made [[Ganondorf (SSBB)/Side special|the page]] for Flame Choke in ''Brawl'', but I'm not certain that I got the followups right. My test was time-consuming, but also fairly rudimentary, so I am not sure if all of it is accurate. I'm under the impression that you are familiar with Ganon in ''Brawl''. Would you mind checking it out when you get the chance? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 17:19, 21 May 2017 (EDT)

:There should be a list somewhere on Smashboards listing the guaranteed Flame Choke followups. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:38, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

==''Brawl'' matchups==

First off, congrats on your upcoming marriage! You've certainly done well, haven't you?

That's all.

--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  00:32, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

:Thanks, it is a surprise seeing you here, I thought you disappeared from the wiki a while ago. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:38, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

::Thanks for your input, it's much appreciated.

::It seems we mostly missed each other back in Summer to Fall of 2016, when I last got back into editing after my departure in early 2015. I never truly disappear from SmashWiki, I just take leaves of absence, whether it's from schoolwork, boredom with ''Smash'', or similar matters. It's a shame you're not as active as you once were, I miss your arse-kicking as an admin, but hey, real life comes first. Thanks for everything you've done.

::--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  21:48, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

==Legitimacy of set wins==

Hi! I was referred to you in the wake of some confusion as to how we are to classify Charliedaking's set against ZeRo at MSM 104, which Charlie won 2-0. To this point, it's been in practice that we add a short sentence detailing the win on ZeRo in the main blurb of any player with a win on ZeRo (Joe Smash is the Xth player to take a set off of ZeRo, doing so at WhereverCon 20XX, etc). We'd normally chalk this down as the 26th player with that win, except this is the first time the win has happened in which ZeRo was ONLY playing his secondaries. The person I was discussing it with listed you as an admin knowledgeable on the competitive scene enough to determine the process for this, specifically:

*Do we or do we not count this win as "a win on ZeRo" in the same way as all the others?

*If we do not, what specifically ''do'' we count as "a win on ZeRo," other than entirely subjective reasons or a case-by-case basis?

*Should the more recent/less notable wins on ZeRo even have a place in their blurb outside of ZeRo's name being a part of their list of notable wins? (In response to this specifically, I made [[User:Pespeon/List of players who have taken a set off of ZeRo|a subpage]] that could potentially be used in place of these blurbs, perhaps as some sort of "See also" to ZeRo's page or the pages of any of them.)

The discussion in question took place [[Smasher talk:Charliedaking|here]], if you'd like to read through it. Sorry to bother you, but this overall seems like an issue that could use some resolution before we let it keep sliding and we have 50 or 100 pages with sentences about how the player beat ZeRo. Thank you for your time :)  

:I echo what I said before on the topic Jamal linked that wins on Zero shouldn't be singled out as something especially special, as there are too many people who have beaten him to have treated it as such, and if we're going to track individual wins and losses in depth, we should be tracking entire records between players so it's not just trivia. As for if we should refer to the win at all on CDK's page as if it was a standard win, no as Zero was explicitly going secondaries to practise them in what was ultimately just a weekly, and no one with common sense would consider such a win with the usual weight. Not to mention that rating systems like the PGR don't count weeklies in their system as it is. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:53, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

== For Glory matchmaking ==

Sakurai did mention it, in the April 2014 Direct. But I mean, I guess it's irrelevant now. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 06:58, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

:Yea, I was just about to mention that. It's specifically [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUWnQu2Grs#t=768s here]. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:50, 26 September 2017 (EDT)

== SSBU character pages ==

We added notice templates to all SSBU character pages explaining not to add data values as they are subject to change. And as per your proposal, we removed specefic data claims (like specific amounts of damage % and frames); however, we did not know if that also meant all mentions of general buffs or nerfs should be removed (like just generally saying Mario's fireballs do more damage, as a made up example).

Also, as per [[SmashWiki is not speculative]], shouldn't all the SSBU character pages be semi-protected? "''Major articles about unreleased content (such as character articles) will be immediately semi-protected until release to prevent speculation.''" And one more thing, shouldn't SSBU's [[Alternate costume (SSBU)|alternate costumes]] page be semi-protected too since all the other ones are? Thank you. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 05:02, 6 July 2018 (EDT)

Derek has been violating 1RV multiple times, to the point where I'm doing it myself. He's also been making edits without a summary, causing me and Aidan to revert his edits. I'm literally done dealing with his nonsense. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 11:57, 13 February 2019 (EST)

== Infobox for sponsor articles. ==

Hello, I talked about this draft to Disaster Flare. I noticed [[:Category:Sponsors|sponsor articles]] does not have an infobox, so I decided to draft one: [[User:Derekblue1/Template:Infobox Team|Template:Infobox Team]]. I was wondering if you would like to check my draft, and I'm happy if you decide to edit to improve the template if necessary. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 07:10, April 22, 2020 (EDT)

:Tyrant is only semi active so he probably won't respond. If you want my opinion though it looks fine. If you want opinions from other admins try asking Aidanzapunk or Serpent King because they're the most active after Flare. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:12pt"><font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font></span>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 07:51, April 22, 2020 (EDT)

::Whoops, my bad 😬 I was meant to reply to you. I do not why I thought your names are similar. Thank you for sharing your opinion. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:59, April 22, 2020 (EDT)

== Look. ==

I'm very sorry for making disruptive edits here, and for saying a very snarky and snipey edit summary towards you.

...

Will you forgive me? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SafariKid2|SafariKid2]] ([[User talk:SafariKid2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SafariKid2|contribs]]) 18:13, March 4, 2021 (EST)</small>

:Just don't that shit and listen from now on when an admin tells you to knock something off, and it'll be fine. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:37, March 4, 2021 (EST)

Just because when someone apologizes, doesn’t mean you have to go and swear at them a**hole! [[Special:Contributions/174.242.69.30|174.242.69.30]] 01:09, July 4, 2021 (EDT)

== Do you know about any info for the 2nd tier list discussion? ==

Since you're both an admin here and an active competitive player, do you know if and when the 2nd tier list discussion would start? I have an idea for how the tier lists could be averaged: each tier placement is worth however many points the ranking is, then the add up the points from each tier list, with the final aggregated list being in reverse order of how many points each character has. As for getting the tier numbers such as S, A, etc, with 86 slots on the character select screen, plus 5 for using just Pyra/Mythra or one Pokemon Trainer pokemon, there are 91 spots on the tier list, enough to have exactly 13 characters per tier if there are 7 tiers. I asked Toomai last month with the same suggestions, but he hasn't replied to it, so I'm wondering if you know anything about when the actual discussion would start, if it would be closed to non-vote suggestions like the last one, or my suggestion is reasonable. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 20:45, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

:I'm not involved with whatever Toomai is planning, so I'm just as much in the dark about it as everyone else is. For what you suggested, I will say though that having the same amount of characters in every tier isn't how tiers are supposed to work; the purpose of tiers are to represent where the relative gaps in viability are, rather than as a means to just arbitrarily organize each character. There is no real limit to the amount of characters that could appropriately go into the same tier, you could really have everyone in one tier if they were all around the same viability, and to arbitrary limit how many characters go into each tier is just misrepresenting how viable each character is (same reason the "top 5/top 10/top whatever" tiers that are popular in personal tier lists are really stupid and is a trend that should die). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:10, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

== Clone charts ==

I was wondering if you were planning on updating [[User:Omega Tyrant/Clone charts|your clone charts]] for ''Ultimate'' (and possibly ''Smash 4''). <span style="font-family:Formata Regular">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 21:51, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

:Probably not, while I did things a bit differently than how Toomai handled his "cloneosity" page and so it wouldn't be entirely redundant (namely considering how the moves function and the characters' movement/physics), it would ultimately probably come to the same conclusions on how to categorize each clone even if the percentages differ, and I'm not really interested in arguing over minute details, especially when my method is more open to interpretation than Toomai's and so would attract more argumentation. Wiki arguments, especially of the pointless variety, played a large part in burning me out long ago and leading to the subsequent inactivity, so whenever I've been around since the post-Smash 4 era I tended to avoid arguments when I can.  <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:09, March 18, 2021 (EDT)

== Whoops. ==

HOWEVER, as long as that imgur album exists, I could, in theory, replicate it as long as I have the page histories to reference, but it would be extremely tedious.

[[User:TotallyNotAutomated|TotallyNotAutomated]] ([[User talk:TotallyNotAutomated|talk]]) 23:35, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

:It's not necessary, so it's not something you need to do, it just would be something nice to have to look back on. It's up to you if you want to recreate a backup in your user space. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 23:57, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

::I could, and I want to, but I'd have to work on it over the span of a few weeks instead of crunching it out in under a day in order not to burn myself out. Not to mention I'd need help from the admins because the prank included editing templates. Yeah.

::Oh, and the Donkey Kong page wasn't the only one I pranked. Ignoring a bunch of smaller edits to keep things consistent around the wiki, the other big articles hit were the Donkey Kong universe article and the list of Donkey Kong music in SSBU. Mostly it was just me adding music though. Funny thing, every music I claimed was a new remix actually had a link to a remix, and I credited the creators of the remixes in the "Composition & Arrangements" section.

::Anyway, I'll have to set aside some time to do it. Though looking at my Rock Howard page, don't be surprised if it takes a long time or just doesn't finish. [[User:TotallyNotAutomated|TotallyNotAutomated]] ([[User talk:TotallyNotAutomated|talk]]) 00:05, April 2, 2021 (EDT)

== Do you remember when Zelda was revealed for Melee? ==

Since Zelda was the only starter character who wasn't revealed at E3 2001, I'm curious about when she was actually revealed. I put in her page regular and melee pages that she was unofficially revealed when the box art was since I couldn't find any other melee marketing videos, but I don't know for certain since I wasn't born when melee came out. Since you were born 10 years before melee's release, was there a Nintendo magazine that revealed Zelda, or is the exact date and/or method of her reveal a complete mystery? [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 19:50, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

== Am I allowed to make a fake Smash moveset about you? ==

Am I allowed to make a fake Smash moveset about you? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SmashBros.PikachuUltimate|SmashBros.PikachuUltimate]] ([[User talk:SmashBros.PikachuUltimate|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SmashBros.PikachuUltimate|contribs]]) 19:41, September 10, 2021 (EDT)</small>

:You have already been warned about probation, and currently over 80% of your edits have been to your user and talk page, while the few attempts at constructive edits have not been very good. I strongly suggest you not focus on more userspace content at this time, or you'll find yourself on a fast track to probation. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:54, September 10, 2021 (EDT)

== Brawl zss shield pressure ==

I just saw you reversed my edit and asked ask how I was shield pressuring with Plasma Whip. In ''Brawl'', Plasma Whip is -10 on shield if you sweetspot it which along with the  

good shield pushback makes it good for spacing and pressuring. She also has other shield pressuring options with down smash (which is -4) and her back aerial. The reason I changed those few things was because it said her defensive game is poor "due to lacking safe options on shield". From an objective point of view, I don't believe that part is true since she has a good amount of moves that are safe on shield in a game where the amount of moves that are safe on shield is very minimal. This isn't me trying to get the edit into the page, I just wanted to explain my thought process for making that edit. [[User:SacredFire37|SacredFire37]] ([[User talk:SacredFire37|talk]]) 14:11, September 18, 2021 (EDT)

::Personally I disagree, but I'll leave it the way it is since my stance is not objective. [[User:SacredFire37|SacredFire37]] ([[User talk:SacredFire37|talk]]) 16:14, September 29, 2021 (EDT)

:::Brawl shields are very durable, have the lowest commitment of any Smash game, and every viable character has very good OoS options or at worst adequate (probably the worst of such characters, Snake, can still brutally punish nearly anything that's worse than -10 on shield with f-tilt and worse than -11 with u-tilt, while also having jab to punish close stuff that's worse than -8), shield pressure doesn't exist in the game without Mach Tornado and its ridiculous damage + longevity + safety. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:06, September 29, 2021 (EDT)

::::True, but what about when taking spacing and shield pushback into account? Plasma Whip's long range and shield pushback make it difficult to punish if if it used correctly as a spacing tool (Salem would down smash and Plasma Whip all the time on shield and the opponent would barely ever be able to punish it). I definitely agree that Meta Knight has the best shield pressure with Mach Tornado, spaced f tilt and fair, etc. I just don't think he's the only one who CAN shield pressure despite the strong shields and low shieldstun. But again, this is just my take on it and even if shield pressure doesn't exist in Brawl, I consider the part that says zss lacks safe options on shield to be inaccurate (I might be biased since I main zss, but I have quite a bit of experience with her and this is what I've noticed). A bit of a sidetrack but did the shields in Brawl have slow regeneration and/or fast depletion or am I thinking of another game? [[User:SacredFire37|SacredFire]] ([[User talk:SacredFire37|talk]]). 10:44, September 30, 2021 (EDT)

:::::Again, having moves that can be safe on shield '''does not''' equal shield pressure, you are never forcing people to stay in shield for long nor actually threatening shields in Brawl when shield damage is pitiful and characters have plenty good options OoS, which is why non-Mach Tornado shield pokes and shield breaks are so much less common than they are in Ult or even Smash 4. Taking a look at your age and userpage, I'm highly skeptical that you ever actually played Brawl competitively and so don't think you're really speaking here with any real worthwhile experience in the game. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 03:44, October 1, 2021 (EDT)

::::::Look, I'm not here to argue, I already said that I wasn't going to put my edit there. I just wanted to explain my thought process as to why I made that edit. As for my experience in the game, you're correct that I don't have a ton of experience in the game, mostly just online and locals near me, but I definitely have some experience playing the game. Can we just agree to disagree and move on? [[User:SacredFire37|SacredFire]] ([[User talk:SacredFire37|talk]]). 15:20, October 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::"''Look, I'm not here to argue, I already said that I wasn't going to put my edit there.''"

:::::::But then you come here in the first place and are still replying...

:::::::"''As for my experience in the game, you're correct that I don't have a ton of experience in the game''"

:::::::Ok, so you admit you're out of your depth here. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:06, October 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::::I'm replying to clear up any misunderstanding that may have arisen. But yes, I did get ahead of myself. [[User:SacredFire37|SacredFire]] ([[User talk:SacredFire37|talk]]). 17:11, October 1, 2021 (EDT)

[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_leaks&diff=1625870&oldid=1624548 There is currently a dispute going on about whether the Sora leak/rumor could be a coincidence] [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_leaks&diff=prev&oldid=1628826 because of a lack of info], which would be a valid complaint if it weren't for the circumstances regarding Sora being the last character and the leaker's occupation making this the only thing they could leak (I went over these in both pages talk pages). I was told that [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_leaks&diff=1628960&oldid=1628947 any admin would tell me that coincidences shouldn't go on the leaks page], but [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_leaks&diff=next&oldid=1623617 since you said there shouldn't be a dispute if it was 100% right], I'm asking you, as an admin who has had some say in this situation in the past, if this should simply be brushed off as a coincidence, taken as fact, or put on both pages like with Vergeben and Gemastu. [[Special:Contributions/68.4.176.97|68.4.176.97]] 16:44, October 17, 2021 (EDT)

== May you unprotect [[Mishima Dojo]] please? ==

For some reason it's indefinitely protected for only extended confirmed users, despite the reason being high traffic due to Kazuya's recent release at the time. I don't plan on editing it right now, but the permanent protection seems to be either arbitrary or a mistake. [[Special:Contributions/157.242.208.122|157.242.208.122]] 02:15, November 13, 2021 (EST)

:I agree the page shouldn't still be protected and really anything more than a month was excessive, the protection has been removed. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:28, November 13, 2021 (EST)

== The ban of [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:Contributions/74.75.9.45 74.75.9.45] ==

This IP is not only a serial vandal, but is also responsible for a total of 6 sockpuppet accounts (those [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:Log/block blocked] on 26/03/22), 2 of which themselves have a significant number of vandal edits on them, and the rest presumably would have been used for the same purpose had they not almost instantly been blocked by Porple. 1 week for all of this really doesn't seem like enough. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 21:34, March 28, 2022 (EDT)

:I would also like to bring up what I mentioned on the noticeboard, that being that Abigblueworld (and in turn 74.75.9.45) is a serial vandal across multiple wikis. They've been permablocked on not just Wikipedia but all of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Abigblueworld MediaWiki] (with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/74.75.9.45 IP] being blocked for shorter), Miraheze [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/-abigblueworld-] [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Abigblueworldstikes], and blocked or deactivated on various Fandom wikis for behavior similar to what we experienced. I agree that 1 week is too short regardless of if we look at on-wiki actions or their repeat history off-wiki. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:24, March 28, 2022 (EDT)

::I don't have anything else to add, but I must point out that I also protest the short length of this block, as a user with such a history is almost guaranteed to return to the wiki to vandalise. I know we shouldn't permablock IPs but we stand to gain nothing (and may even suffer detriment) by being so lenient for such severe transgressions. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] the 🦊[[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry''']]🐺. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 00:10, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

Someone just pinged the admins that there was an IP vandal without any added context and they were treated as any random IP vandal with no immediately apparent history on their IP. I don't need three people chiding "the block length is too short!" like I wouldn't have blocked longer if I was aware of the IP's history, your comment BV especially added nothing here. Just link the shit they're connected to that an admin may not be aware of, especially off-wiki shit no one here will reasonably be expected to keep track of, it's hard enough as is to keep tabs of which IPs are connected to other troublesome IPs and accounts on just this wiki. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:46, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

:It should be noted that [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=SmashWiki%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard&type=revision&diff=1671175&oldid=1668874 the Admin noticeboard] has had 4 different people providing all this info and begging for the IP to be blocked since Friday. I suppose people assumed that that'd be enough to get the attention of an administrator. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 09:21, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

::I did not see the admin noticeboard and I rarely check it as I'm rarely browsing the wiki at this time, like I said before in the Discord you guys should just ping the admins there when something urgent comes up, that guarantees a fast response when an admin will nearly always be around there. Also here is the [https://discord.com/channels/186707873789640705/186708155873492993/958171441252155462 ping message] about this IP, it was just a ping and a link to the IP with no mention of anything else about them, you can't expect someone to magically know about crucial context when it's not provided. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:53, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

:::As the one who pinged, I should clear it up. I had no idea that the user was a recurring problem. I just saw Recent Changes being filled with a vandal and pinged because no one was online to take care of it. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 12:59, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

:::::You can very much supply farther info in Discord messages, and people have done so plenty of times before, you are not forced to make Discord messages "short and lacking in detail". Additionally by its nature, Discord is always going to be much more immediate in response; people generally keep it open when they have online access and the ping will immediately notify them that something is up, while you won't see any new post in admin noticeboard until you actually check it or happen to notice an edit there by checking recent changes. Discord obsoletes the admin noticeboard for notifying about urgent matters, it's going to always lead to faster response time even if all the admins were frequently refreshing the recent changes, and it's not unreasonable for admins to not be spending their time keeping an eye on the admin noticeboard for vandals when anything important enough typically gets brought up to them in Discord (especially if they're just too busy to spend their time browsing the wiki, and when the wiki is ultimately all volunteer work).

 

 

::::::Optimistically, Discord messages could in theory be used in such a way, but my point is that they generally aren't. Social media platforms can never truly make the wiki's built in features obsolete, because everyone who uses the wiki has access to these features, while it is unreasonable to expect everyone who is capable of spotting vandalism on the wiki to use external social media platforms instead. And as I mentioned, the noticeboard collates all the reports made about a vandal together, which Discord does not, making it more useful for determining what the punishment for a vandal should be. The Discord server can be used in complement with the noticeboard, but should not be treated as a replacement for it, and admins should be willing to check the noticeboard (in my opinion it should notify all admins in the same way talk page notifications work, but that's not likely to happen, so the page should at least be on every admin's watchlist).

 

 

::::::<small>(edit conflict)</small>This might be a little off-topic but is a genuine question, wouldn't a page as important as the admin noticeboard be on every admin's watchlist by default or have a notice like talk page posts do? It wasn't bad at the beginning, but it was still enough to report though it was seemingly ignored. If they got even a short ban at the start, then it would've become clear that they are sockpuppeting and they ban would escalate from there. Instead it took 3 days for the IP to be blocked at all and here we are. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:15, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:It's just common sense, if something needs an immediate response and you have access to something that lets you directly notify someone whose help you need, you should go and utilize it instead of just waiting around for one to log onto the wiki and check a specific page. Notifying via Discord can be mentioned in those pages, but people should not have needed a policy page to spell out and "promote" to them that Discord will get them faster responses, and indeed they haven't; most of the time I am effectively notified by someone pinging the admins on Discord about vandals or another urgent matter, while for whatever reason no one pinged about this specific IP until Cookies did, who was not aware either of their prior history (looking through old messages on Discord I seen NPM post about the IP, but without any context and without any ping, so it got missed).

 

 

 

 

 

:There's nothing that will "reverse" its obsolesce, nor should that be desired when you can't get any faster response time than what an instant messenger offers. We have more and better tools at our disposal than before to effectively maintain the wiki, and they should not be neglected in favor of sticking to just what the MediaWiki software can offer. There's nothing wrong with posting on the noticeboard as a means of keeping record, but realistically any urgent report should not be without direct notification on Discord, you just can't beat its response time with pure wiki patrolling without having a NEET admin with no life that's content to refresh recent changes 24/7. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:59, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

:Hold up a sec here...Is the problem seriously "Sometimes people use Discord to report vandals instead of the admin board"? Because if so...I mean yah okay it does. The problem being reported gets solved...so what's the big deal here? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:13, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

::I don't intend to egg this conversation on any further; I just mean to say that I don't see any point to discouraging usage of the Noticeboard to alert an Administrator if you aren't on Discord. Plus, in this particular instance, I don't see any reasonable defense for the Noticeboard alerts going completely unnoticed for ''three days straight'' (although I do, in fact, agree that it was silly that it took that long for the situation to reach Discord). Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|Boss]]. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 18:22, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

 

:::::The point is that Discord now exists, all the admins are on there alongside most users, and that relying solely on the noticeboard is a blatantly outdated system that will never get remotely as quick of responses no matter how much it's checked. If something is urgent, '''just ping the damn admins on Discord''', it is not the 2000s anymore, we do not need to just rely on cumbersome MediaWiki tech to maintain the wiki. If someone has the time to make a post on the noticeboard, they're more than capable of typing "@Administrator Hey there's this vandal and they did XYZ <insert link>" in the Discord server (or directly to an admin via DM) and getting a more immediate response.

 

 

:::::Just because an admin shows up as online does not mean they're actually browsing the wiki, or if they do something else does not mean they're going to browse the wiki afterward, especially when urgent matters have been getting brought up on the Discord reliably before this one time (often times when you see me do something it's ''because'' someone pinged the admins about something on wiki that required them). I really do not get all this argumentation against just using something better, and it just seems you're being argumentative for the sake of it or a stick in the mud insisting on only using the noticeboard because "that's the way wikis have done it!". And ultimately, something as minor as an IP vandal being given a block that was inadvertently a bit lenient should not have resulted in this big talk page commotion that has 25 posts from 8 different users, it should have been simply left at one post saying "hey this block length of this IP is a bit short, are you aware of XYZ context?" instead of three users jumping in to complain about the block length before I could even respond, while the mention of Discord as an obviously better tool for notification should not be met with such argumentation.

 

 

:::::What did I just say to you? "'''There's nothing wrong with posting on the noticeboard as a means of keeping record, but realistically any urgent report should not be without direct notification on Discord'''". That is not "discouraging", it is saying "get with the times and don't ignore the better, more modern tool we have at our disposal".

 

 

:::::I do not see any "reasonable defense" in not taking a second to just ping the admins if something is really that urgent, you are in the SmashWiki Discord all the time and so could have done so yourself, instead of raising a fuss now after the fact about it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:10, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

 

 

Hey! I saw you were the last to update the Wyoming PR and it was a deletion of the page. I'm a Wyoming PR player and we just released the spring 2022 PR listing. I edited in the label on the PR page, but I can't edit the Wyoming PR page. Hoping to get your help on that! I can provide the list and characters and stuff of course. [[User:SIke|SIke]] ([[User talk:SIke|talk]]) 12:50, August 16, 2022 (EDT)

Summit tournament that incorporated most of our scene. https://braacket.com/league/uwo_is_kinda_pog/ranking/5FE609EB-C1A2-41BA-99E1-873E4F28BDB5 https://imgur.com/a/bHvGNX4[[User:SIke|SIke]] ([[User talk:SIke|talk]]) 18:08, August 25, 2022 (EDT)

 

Oh and here's our twitch if that helps twitch.tv/uwyoesports[[User:SIke|SIke]] ([[User talk:SIke|talk]]) 18:12, August 25, 2022 (EDT)

 

 

 

 

 

[[File:Gligar2007sig1.png|25px]][[User:Gligar2007|<span style="color:red;">'''Gligar'''</span>]][[User talk:Gligar2007|<span style="color:blue;">'''2007'''</span>]][[File:Gligar2007sig2.png|25px]] 09:43, September 23, 2022 (EDT)

 

A week ago, [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Ness&diff=prev&oldid=1743772 I found it reverted as "discussed to death"]. I see discussion on [[Talk:Ness]] and [[User_talk:Miles_of_SmashWiki/Archive16#Most_Recent_Appearances|an old user talk page]], but nowhere else, and most of the dislike towards counting Mario Maker seems to be started by one user [[User:Toomai/Miles-OT survey results|I read about]] [[SmashWiki:Requests for bureaucratship/Miles of SmashWiki|you two having beef]] with each other as Mario Maker 1 was coming out, which is why I want to ask you for your opinion on this situation.

 

From what I understand, Miles convinced some people (a lot of the discourse from the Ness talk page came from somebody who initially and correctly thought it should be counted as a cameo earlier on Miles' talk) that Mario Maker 1 should be completely ignored as a non-smash appearance due to it technically being a costume, and most of the current dislike towards this idea still comes primarily from Miles. That argument makes sense, especially with Mii costumes where the Mii leaks through the character they're cosplaying. However, what I also see on both pages is that the sprites resemble the characters fully, and that Sonic is in a similar situation with him first cameoing as an air freshener in a separate game, and I have to agree with both of these points.

 

I also gave the examples of sprites on a character's shirt in my edit summaries, but something I just found out was that a couple sprites directly taken from Mario Maker costumes (meaning the exact same appearances) do make non-costume cameos on walls in some kingdoms, which you can collect for coins. This doesn't affect Mario of Peach since they're in the game anyways, but MarioWiki does count this as a cameo for Rosalina, who otherwise isn't in the game (this wasn't added here, but it doesn't really matter since this is long past and her next appearance was in a month anyways). Link also reappears in Mario Maker 2 with the same sprite, and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Link&diff=prev&oldid=1330428 people correctly counted that], but not Mario Maker 1 for other characters, despite, as I mentioned, being the exact same sprite.

 

 

:Also, [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Ness&diff=prev&oldid=1745807 don't do shit like this], hidden editing notes are supposed to be used to explain any peculiarities about editing something specific, to note that some information shouldn't be added like unwanted personal information on a smasher page, or to note that something particularly contentious shouldn't be changed without discussion, ''they are not for the purpose of justifying your own edit''. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 03:45, December 7, 2022 (EST)

 

 

:[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Team%3ASmash_Crew_Server&type=revision&diff=1760908&oldid=1719138 This] doesn't appear to be vandalism to me, can you provide evidence that the changes they made is incorrect information? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:29, February 17, 2023 (EST)

:::One, that isn't vandalism, and two, it was just four edits. No, I'm not going to block a new IP for just making four consecutive edits to a single page, that is not by any means an extreme amount. Blocks for such an offense would only be valid if it's a chronic problem with a user who insistently refuses to preview their edits after being warned extensively about it. Instead of calling them a vandal and trying to get an admin to block them for such a very minor issue, you should have instead politely point out to them that they should preview their edits before saving and link them [[SW:SP|this]].

 

:::Also indent your comments with a colon (:) when replying to posts on talk page, indenting your post one more than the post you're replying to. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:42, February 17, 2023 (EST)

 

 

The borders in some of the Smash 64 screenshots exist in the game's video signal and are preserved when taking a direct screenshot through an emulator without graphics mods. While removing after the fact would be trivial, it does run into one of the "other concepts" on [[SW:IMAGE]] of not modifying screenshots. If the removal of blank space is going to be treated as an exception, then it should be mentioned on the policy.

 

Somewhat related but not specific to this, putting a maintenance tag without putting a reason in the tag is not helpful unless it is blatantly obvious what needs fixing. While you did give your reasoning in the edit summary, no one should need to look at that to know what is needed. Too often have I had to go back and track down 3-5 year old summaries when it could've been in plain sight. If I or someone else came along years later and saw a bare tag, we may reach the same conclusion as Aidan and remove it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 14:32, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

:I would say removing blank space from an image hardly runs against the Image policy, when the spirit of the policy is "don't put screenshots of your mods and photoshops in our articles", while we have also accepted people removing blank borders from screenshots before. If people will be a stickler for what exactly is written down, then it can simply be written into the policy that it is ok to remove blank space, there is no value in "preserving" blank space that just makes the image take up more screen space than it needs to and makes the image more difficult to discern. I would also say preserving native resolution isn't most ideal either, people shouldn't need to zoom all the way in on a Smash 64 screenshot to see what is even in the image on modern monitors, not when we have the tools to take screenshots at higher quality than the original hardware allowed. Plus I'll also point out that the image policy does not say images should only be in their native resolution, and indeed ton of images on the wiki were taken at a higher resolution than possible on the original hardware, especially Smash 64 images, while to reverse that now would be clearly counterproductive, when clarity of what we're trying to show should trump any blind purism.

 

:Also it's weird you're going to try to lecture me about that like I don't know how maintenance tags work when I been here for far longer than you and told off people several times for not writing down proper reasons in their maintenance tags, while several of my edits have also been fixing maintenance tags that didn't have a proper reasoning in them prior. I didn't write down a reasoning in these specific tags here because it is evident why those images are low quality (blank borders have never been desirable in screenshots). Trying to tell an admin off for such a trivial thing I'm well aware of comes off as you trying to one-up me or something. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:53, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

:::I don't particularly have much to add to this discussion, but I can at least say that I would have gotten zero indication that the reason you marked the image as low quality was because of the borders without you clarifying such, especially given that the point of that screenshot is to show the "SUDDEN DEATH" text, which is in clear view even as is. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 17:26, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

::::An image just being able to "clearly" (big quotation marks given how shite the resolution of that screenshot is) show the sudden death text for a sudden death article wouldn't make it a desirable image (e.g. we wouldn't accept a screenshot cropped to only have the sudden death text visible), we still want the screenshots to actually look good, part of which should clearly mean not having borders of black space around an image. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:00, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

By the way, should borderless images be enforced, I wanted to ask what should be done with these sets of images in particular, as they're what come to mind at the moment:

*I'm assuming that all the images in [[:Category:Subspace Emissary cutscenes]] would be cropped. Still, with all the [[:File:Wolf_Subspace.png|edit warring]] about this exact issue, I just wanted to be sure.

*Would all the images in [[:Category:Congratulations screens (SSBM)]] be cropped? They were originally uploaded as low quality JPEG screenshots, and were replaced by manually converting the original, quasi-JPEG files found in the ''Melee'' disk. However, they all have black borders as part of the image data. As to not upload 75+ JPEG-artifacted PNGs to replace them, they were uploaded as is. Consequently, editing them is not feasible without worsening the quality further. Should they be edited? And if so, how should they be reuploaded?

*What should be done about the images in [[:Category:Congratulations screens (SSB4-3DS)]]? I'm assuming the images contain the golden borders themselves like the ''Melee'' screens. Regardless, unlike the other two categories, these all have an image border rather than a plain black one. Would they be treated any differently from images with plain borders? [[File:NokiiSig.png|link=User_talk:Nokii]] '''[[User:Nokii|<span style="color:#89F">Nokii</span>]] ·''' 02:14, March 18, 2023 (EDT)

:*Ah Brandondorf, hard to tell in that case if the people weren't just reverting him because it was Brandondorf (who was infamous at the time for fucking with screenshots on the wiki by editing them far more than just removing borders, such as messing with their saturation or blowing up their size as a substitute for "higher resolution"), while I'm also sensing PSIWolf was being overprotective of "his" image (while his friends then joined in to "defend" it from Brandondorf). The people reverting Brandondorf are claiming the borders a part of the scene, but taking a look on youtube, I'm seeing videos of the cutscenes without any borders, so I don't know if it was just those users' emulator settings rather than the picture of Brawl's video files actually inherently having the borders. In any case though, I would prefer new, higher resolution screenshots taken that don't have the borders to begin with if possible (the linked Wolf cutscene example isn't even 480p), rather than just cropping the old screenshots.

:*I would say this is a definite different case, as such borders were deliberately put there by the devs as part of the presentation rather than just being blank space to fill an aspect ratio that may or may not be visible depending on how the game is actually viewed, and when [https://youtu.be/xvPg9PzDHrg?t=721 looking at it ingame], you can clearly see how the gold border is a part of the image by how it moves up with the screenshot as the credits go on. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 03:25, March 18, 2023 (EDT)

::*The black borders for the Melee files also have a tiny amount bleeding into them from the main portion. I personally see these as sprite rips and thus shouldn't be altered. JPGs ''can'' be cropped losslessly without causing extra artifacting, but you need special software and it can only be done in increments of 8 pixels due to how JPGs encode data (borders here are 16 pixels if you ignore the bleed over, so that works out). In the past I've used {{iw|wikipedia|libjpeg}} (command line) and {{iw|wikipedia|IrfanView}} (requires plugin for JPG cropping).

::*3DS congrats screens are [https://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/supersmashbrosfornintendo3ds/sheet/62692/ sprite rips]. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 07:29, March 18, 2023 (EDT)

Because I want it changed. [[User:MarioBob|MarioBob]] ([[User talk:MarioBob|talk]]) 18:38, March 25, 2023 (EDT)

== Am I doing something actively wrong or are you just closely watching the recent changes? ==

I'm noticing that often when I edit, you either add on to my edit or revert it within minutes, even if the "who's online" section didn't list you, and when you do revert something you usually use strong language. I want to check to see if I was problematic and the strong language is because of that (given how there is an option to watch a specific user), or if you were just closely watching the recent changes and the semi-common usage of the word "shit" is just something you usually do. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 19:46, March 28, 2023 (EDT)

:I've been simply looking at recent changes a lot lately, I'm not watching nor targeting any specific users, and naturally someone who edits a lot will have their edits frequently looked over, and then the page being edited farther and their own edits being reverted for whatever reason. My "foul mouth" is nothing targeted towards you, and a cursory look at other posts of mine that have nothing to do you will show that. "Who's online" is also not reliable for showing who is online browsing at that exact moment, so you shouldn't put more stock into it other than "the user loaded a tab on SmashWiki some time very recently". You have been fine other than the time you tried prodding me to get into a wiki argument with Miles, just don't try to be pedantic about trivia. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:02, March 28, 2023 (EDT)

== Permission to turn my attribute data subpage into a project ==

I recently made a [[User:Unnamed anon/AllCharAttributes|subpage to organize all of the character's attributes before putting them on every fighter page]], as from what I can see on [[Template talk:Attributes]] this info should be on all fighter pages, though the actual template format had disagreements (though I hope my additions to Attributes1 could work out). However, I don't have the patience nor willpower to add in every characters attributes by myself, plus Brawl and 64 are missing double jump/short hop data, which means I can't actually start on brawl and 64. I see there's a [[smashwiki:Project|project category]] to get help on this, but it's only present on 4 pages; can I have permission to add it there? [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 19:55, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

:The more appropriate thing is to label this as a [[Help:Drafts|draft]], when it's just for a single thing, and it still indicates to others that you want help. Projects are for organizing large scale wiki stuff. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:02, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

== After blocked ==

I knew edit warring is an inappropriate behavior. CanvasK always dissatisfied with my edits, and thinking biasedly. Anyway, from Wikipedia, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Age&oldid=85287937 '''that date was written in 2006'''], but this is so outdated, so I thought that template needs to be updated. You won't be able to explain why these are 1980 and 1993. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Age/doc&oldid=150130478 The reason is it was written in '''2007'''] We will decide after [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Age#Change_to_automatic_update discussion] from Wikipedia. [[User:Tempest Tales|Tempest Tales]] ([[User talk:Tempest Tales|talk]]) 01:33, June 1, 2023 (EDT)

:Also, [[SmashWiki is not Wikipedia]], there is no "we will decide after discussion on Wikipedia". <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 06:36, June 1, 2023 (EDT)

== Moving [[Notice]] to [[Milestone]] ==

 

The move suggestion for [[Notice]] is still active, and there has been no active discussion for over 8 years. Only a single person during all this time said '''Support'''; there has been no active discussion ever since. Because of this, I feel like we should follow through with the move. Do you think so, Tyrant? [[User:Jordan2009|Jordan2009, the Sora Main]] [[User talk:Jordan2009|Talk here]] 14:39, June 6, 2023 (EDT)

 

 

 

 

 

 

== Question ==

Hey, I would like you to answer my question: I have basically had my account for 8 days now (which goes over the minimum of 7 days to be autoconfirmed) and I have also made 10 edits (my first edit was on Thursday 26th October, which was 2 days ago). However, I'm still not autoconfirmed despite meeting the criteria. Can you please tell me why? Thank you.

[[User:ThePacifisticWarrior|ThePacifisticWarrior]] ([[User talk:ThePacifisticWarrior|talk]]) 03:23, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

:The time requirement for autoconfirmation is based off of when the first edit is made, not when the account was created. As such, since you made your first edit only two days ago, you are not autoconfirmed yet, and will need to wait another 5 days. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 06:04, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

::Okay, thank you. Since today is Saturday, I will be autoconfirmed on Thursday 2nd November. [[User:ThePacifisticWarrior|ThePacifisticWarrior]] ([[User talk:ThePacifisticWarrior|talk]]) 08:29, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

== Verification ==

Verifying that it's me on discord [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="#0AF">Ultimate Toad,</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="blue">the Toad Warrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 10:52, November 14, 2023 (EST)

:Got it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:53, November 14, 2023 (EST)

== Inappropriate usernames ==

[[Special:Log/newusers|Lots of spam usernames]] containing lots of ZZZZZ [[File:Gligar2007sig1.png|25px]][[User:Gligar2007|<span style="color:red;">'''Gligar'''</span>]][[User talk:Gligar2007|<span style="color:blue;">'''2007'''</span>]][[File:Gligar2007sig2.png|25px]] 23:52, January 13, 2024 (EST)

:yeah we know about that. But pretty sure admins gave up dealing with them cuz they kept coming back under different IPs. It's like a game of cat and mouse. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 00:27, January 14, 2024 (EST)

==If you didn't know the Miraheze dark story look at these links==

^Are you allowed to delete spam comments like this? [[File:Gligar2007sig1.png|25px]][[User:Gligar2007|<span style="color:red;">'''Gligar'''</span>]][[User talk:Gligar2007|<span style="color:blue;">'''2007'''</span>]][[File:Gligar2007sig2.png|25px]] 10:56, January 28, 2024 (EST)

:Sorry my bad :( <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:UVA|UVA]] ([[User talk:UVA|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/UVA|contribs]]) 15:25, January 28, 2024 (EST)</small>

::If u really were sorry from reading ur talk page u would have stopped talking about random musings/irrelevant off-wiki businesses while also signing ur posts properly already. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 03:37, January 29, 2024 (EST)

==Young Link==

Hello,Sorry for editing my page alot I am not good with this things [[User:Dcx|Dcx]] ([[User talk:Dcx|talk]]) 12:56, June 3, 2024 (EDT) Dcx