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== Ally ==


== Question on the difference between semi-professional and professional? ==
Just as a heads up, we don't need info on every single character Ally has ever touched in Brawl and Smash 4. If Ally never used a majority of them at least semi-seriously (for example, he barely ever touched Mario in Brawl), they don't belong on his page. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 16:13, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
 
==Please give it some effort==
What you did for [[Smasher:Ralphie]] has been deemed a zero-effort article. According to [[SW:SMASHER]], every new Smasher article must contain three things, as detailed as possible:
#An info box ({{n|16}} A name and location alone tells us nothing. As a side note, adding an image placeholder is not permitted as it creates an undesired red link. Images must ALWAYS be uploaded first)
#A short '''paragraph''' summarising the smasher's accomplishments and the smasher themselves ({{n|16}} A single sentence will not cut it, even if a list of 'such as' names is included)
#Tournament results ({{n|16}})
Articles made with zero-effort usually get deleted quickly. I strongly suggest you add more information while you still can. If it gets deleted before you get to it, however, feel free to make the article again, but make sure you add more information next time. Thank you. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:26, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
 
== Check your grammar ==
 
I've noticed that you miss the space bar after typing in a period (.) a lot. Are you okay? Please try to make sure you space your punctuation correctly. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 05:19, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
 
I am editing on phone so probably a bit hard to tell. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NaughtyPigMario|contribs]]) 05:30, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</small>
 
No problem, though please also try to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Please be careful about your punctuation spacing, as I have had to go back and clean up after you for many of your recent edits. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 05:44, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
 
I need to poke you about this issue again. It’s especially important if you’re going to create entirely new pages. Please try to space your punctuation correctly, even if you edit on your phone. I do a good portion of my work on the phone after all. Keep up the good work regardless. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:46, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
 
== Notable players ==
 
For the record, not every player that is listed under a "professional" category for a player should go on the "notable players" section for character pages. Only the most notable of those players are supposed to go on there. Also, the "notable players" sections are specifically for results in singles as well. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 09:46, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
 
<s>Is ZeRo not a notable Cloud then? [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 09:50, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
 
<s>Wow!!! You just delete all the hard work I did. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 09:52, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
:ZeRo hasn't actually beaten Ally, Anti, or falln in sets with Cloud (at best, he's taken games in sets he's lost in). He did beat Dabuz with Cloud once, but that's the only (current) PGR win he has with the character. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:08, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
:Also, I wasn't specifically targeting your edits, I just removed all players whose only justification(s) for being on that list were being ranked on a PR (without any mention of who they beat), maining that character in doubles (a lot of players use Cloud in doubles and doubles is irrelevant to that list anyway), or simply using him as a secondary without a sigificant amount of really notable wins. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:16, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
 
<s>If they are ranked PR. Thats mean they must have the ability or even defeat sb to do so. So please stop deleting everything before thinking. If you need the player who got beaten. I can add it. But just stop deleting everything. All you do is deleting. If you love deleting so much, why not delete the whole page. Delete the whole wiki... OK I should stop ranting. But next dont just delete everything because I might find prove and evidance for certain player to be able to list on that page. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 10:26, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
:Don't throw out accusations towards me just because I reverted your edits. First of all, not all PRs are created equally. There is clearly a difference between beating local-level threats and regional/national-level threats. Secondly, your grammar/punctuation needs work in a lot of your edits (what is "sb", for example?). Lastly, there was no reason to add every single Cloud player from the "Cloud professionals" category, since a lot of those include secondary/pocket/doubles only Clouds. All of these factors combined are why I reverted you... I didn't just do it without thinking. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:34, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
 
<s>sb is just short for somebody. I guess whatever then. Probably not going to edit that much anymore. Because I either always edit wrong or not working. I shouldnt waste to much time on this. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|NaughtyPigMario]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario#top|talk]]) 11:20, 27 May 2018 (EDT)</s>
 
I know that you are an Ally fan, but please stop adding every pocket character he uses at locals on the "Notable players" sections. Locals by definition are not as notable as regionals or nationals. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 06:16, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Yo could you add N and sandstorm to notable kens? Both have pretty impressive results N has wins on awestin and mvd and is easily the best ken in texas. Sandstorm has godlike national results compared to most of the kens as well. [[User:Psychoace|Psychoace]] ([[User talk:Psychoace|talk]]) 23:45, September 9, 2019 (EDT)
 
== Broken image links ==
 
Please do not add image links before actually uploading the image. This creates a broken image link and these show up as an image error on the page, as well as an auto-category on Recent Changes that needs to be fixed. If you have an image to add, please upload it first, and then insert the link on the page. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 08:23, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
 
== Japanese templates ==
 
I'm curious what you're tring to do by making Japanese copies of some of our templates. Sure you can do whatever in userspace, but somehow I doubt that's the extent of your intent. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Orchestral 10:36, 10 June 2018 (EDT)
 
== Note on your new Smash Ultimate additions ==
 
Hey, I appreciate you adding in the new info from https://ssbworld.com/blog/248/smash-ultimate-changes-buffs-nerfs-so-far. However, please don't just copy paste word-for-word and put some effort into editing the points. If it's simply an info dump, you might as well stop updating and allow me to reword it all, since I'm spending my time doing that already. [[User:Archrelico|Archrelico]] ([[User talk:Archrelico|talk]]) 02:32, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
 
== Your signature... ==
 
…[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Diddy_Kong_(SSB4)&curid=40999&diff=1060131&oldid=991126 as seen here], is unfortunately not acceptable. Please fix it at [[Special:Preferences]] by either checking the wikitext box, or by modifying the text within to be compatible with an automatically generated signature. Thanks! [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 02:56, 2 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Use of preview ==
 
{{reminder|prev}}
You've been making lots of rapid-fire edits on [[Smasher:Daybreak]]. Please try to make your edits in one go. Thanks! [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:23, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Sorry, I have the experience of losing my changes because I left the page too long while searching for information. But I will try my best to do so. [[User:Example|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] 10:35, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
:You mean the "loss of session data" thing? Don't worry about it, just press "show preview" again and the changes will still be there. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:37, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 
No, I think when I left the page too long, then I come back at the mobile web editing page. The page just refresh and loss the changes sometimes (before I hit the save button). It happens twice I think, and I just give up editing that page. [[User:Example|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] 11:52, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
:Ah, then your mobile device is just hard refreshing the page. What I would recommend is copying the entire contents of the page, placing it in some sort of note-taking app, and editing it there all at once, before going back to the page and replacing everything with what you've edited.
:On a side note, your signature [[SW:SIG|doesn't comply with the rules]]; it also doesn't even link to your userpage, instead going to [User:Example|here]. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:56, 11 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Your predicament ==
 
I did some investigating, and it turns out that [[Smasher:????]] is a blacklisted name. Not even the sysops can help with this, only the wiki's owner, Porplemontage, can override it. So what I've done is messaged him on Discord to get him to help out, and we'll see if we can get him to make the page for us. In the meantime, keep track of the pages where you insert {{sm|PlayerUnknown}}, so that we may change these links later should Porple grant the override. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 09:00, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
 
OK thanks for the help! [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] 09:02, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Updating images ==
I noticed that you were having trouble seeing the updated versions of images you just uploaded. This isn't actually a problem with the wiki and is instead a problem with most browsers. Your browser loads the last cached image on the page in order to save load time. Images with newer versions eventually update over time, but if you really want it to update quickly, then you'll have to clear your browser's cache. I would recommend simply waiting for your browser to recognize the new version, but that's up to you. I hope this can help you in future image uploadings. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 02:25, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah, I think it is the Cookie thing, I have figured it out. [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 02:28, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
 
 
==About Ally's 2018 history.==
I just wanted to ask, is it really necessary to mention weeklies/locals when focusing on Ally's results so far? Events like those do not mean as much as nationals, and it only looks out of place paired with GENESIS or Hyrule Saga for example. And has he had the worst season of any PGR representative this season? Not trying to sound rude, but I noticed how that section seems a bit exaggerated, even if it is mostly true. [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 10:13, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
 
<s>I don't know is he necessary the worst season out of all PGR player, but 2018 is obviously Ally worst year. He is being placed out of Top 8 so much. Well, in the page maybe I did edit some unnecessary stuff in there. [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 10:18, 22 July 2018 (EDT)</s>
 
==[[SW:TALK]]==
Hey there, I saw that you deleted your talk page comment. I understand the reasoning behind deleting it (not getting any responses), but deleting talk page posts is actually against SmashWiki's talk page policy. It's nothing too major of course, just giving you a friendly reminder not to do it again. If you really do need to delete something, you can always just use strikethrough. <nowiki><s> </s></nowiki>. Example: <s>strikethrough</s> [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 03:29, 25 July 2018 (EDT)
 
== Kameme and Yoshi ==
 
Kameme is not the best Yoshi just because Yoshi is next to his name on the PGR. It is well-known that Kameme is a Mega Man/Sheik dual main, and those are the characters who actually got him ranked; meanwhile, Kameme's Yoshi rarely ever nets him valuable wins and he loses with the character more often than not, especially in 2018.
In addition, posting something like "Kameme got ranked on the PGR with Yoshi" is misleading since he beat absolutely no one of note with Yoshi during the v5 season. For ESAM and Samus, it's less misleading since his Samus has netted him wins, but he still goes Pikachu in 90% of his sets. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 05:47, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Actually, what have Kameme's Yoshi done in this season to make him ranked on the PGR? Are you sure it is not PGStats' mistake? [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 01:05, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
:I think it's probably the same thing that happened with v3 with falln (Mii Gunner) and Elegant (Mario/G&W), who had those characters added next to their names despite not actually beating anyone with them. I'm still confused to this day about why PGStats added those characters for Elegant since I never once saw him use them at all during the v3 season outside of locals. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 01:45, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah, I am especially confused. What is the actual format behind this? Why isn't Ally Cloud ranked when he beat {{Sm|Wrath}} and Nairo Diddy isn't on old PGR either when he beat {{Sm|Salem}}? [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 01:50, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
So when they use whatever characters in locals, the character is going to be ranked? That's weird! [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 01:52, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== About that tourney page you added.  ==
 
You know that tourney is fake, right? This has been confirmed to be fake months ago. [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 12:29, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
There are fake tourneys? I thought it was real. Since I even saw like results thread on Reddit. But I just found out about this and oh crap I saw ZeRo 's twitter and opps.
[[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 12:34, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
Now I also want to know is this real or not
https://challonge.com/g3ok41uu [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 12:34, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah, I remember ZeRo (I think?) noticing it, been none of this really happened. Some of the players there are real (like Ma-kun), but some of them really just come off as just fakes. [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 12:37, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
So these are fake videos?https://youtu.be/u52GwoY2Pso
https://youtu.be/z85UAeRqGVs
I just knew about African smash 4 channel [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 12:37, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
So any of their tournaments that have ZeRo in are all fake? How come I never knew about this. [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 12:39, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
The gameplay you see there is real, but that's not ZeRo there. Considering how no top players made it clear they actually participated at all, that proved this to be fake. I don't blame you for being confused, but I would look and see if any top players have mentioned a tourney first before putting it here. [[User:Iridium77|Iridium77]] ([[User talk:Iridium77|talk]]) 12:42, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah I guess I am an idiot, my heart was pounding like crazy after knewing it was fake. Yeah there can't be that much random upsets in a tournament with that many top players. And the bracket isn't even on the usual page like smash.gg and challonge. I guess I should be careful before trusting random events. [[File:Grand Dad.png|19px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23px]] 12:46, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
 
== Your signature 2 ==
 
Your signature is required to clearly identify yourself by your username. Yours does not, please change it. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 14:01, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
:Please also make sure that your image is 20px tall maximum. To do this you need to specify the height (so if you wanted a max width of 23 and a max height of 20, its <code>23x20px</code>. Thank you <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 14:12, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
 
Uh...Currently '''stole''' my mom's phone to use because mine got put somewhere (so annoying). Anyway, is the signature OK now? Or is it too long? [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Mr. No CCC Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 04:12, 25 September 2018 (EDT)
:I guess it's good, though yeah a little long. Go give your mom her phone back. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 07:54, 25 September 2018 (EDT)
 
==Smasher pages==
Is it possible that you put some more effort into creating new Smasher pages; by this, I mean put in some tournament results? Almost every time I see you create a new Smasher page you leave the "Tournament Placings" section practically blank, which means me or someone else has to fill it in later on; it does get somewhat irritating. If not, then could you please explain why you leave it blank? Thanks. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 11:35, 18 November 2018 (EST)
 
You know what? Adding tournament results will take me a lot of time. I just don't feel like doing it for some reason. I know it is pretty bad. But maybe if I don't add tournament placings, I should just stop creating smashers pages from now on... [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: green;">Mr. No CCC Fleenstones!?</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 22:55, 18 November 2018 (EST)
:Honestly, it's fine if you create Smasher pages, but at least add one or two tournament results (eg, the one you took the Smasher from) as it would be easier to start looking for other tournaments in the future. I'm sorry if I sounded annoyed, that wasn't my intention. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:51, 19 November 2018 (EST)
 
==Your edit summaries==
Can you try to write your edit summaries in English? The majority of the staff here understand English, and thus it would be hard to understand something in Mandarin (I can somewhat understand because of my heritage). I know English isn't your strong point, but a basic summary like "added category" works just fine, and if you have to you can you can use Google Translate. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 21:27, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
 
:Wait, when did I write Mandarin？ [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 00:47, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
 
::Oh, Actually English is still one of my few better subjects. I think there is some kind of ''Category'' button on the mobile website of SmashWiki Beta version (?). And I use it to add  some categories, but it just automatically write edit summaries in Chinese for me for some reason (And I don't think I can change the words). [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 00:53, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
 
== Rollback misuse ==
 
[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Mewtwo_(SSBU)&diff=prev&oldid=1247741 This] is a misuse of rollback. It should only be used for reverting [[SW:BF|bad faith]] edits. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:04, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
 
But according to [[SmashWiki:Rollback]], it said something like ''reverting edits made that add players to notability sections of character pages without a description.'' But I guess he did add a random tournament description. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 11:50, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:Tbh, that bit is more of an artifact from when there were major problems with players repeatedly being added for no reason, but even then, simply thinking that the evidence for notability is insufficient does not allow you to rollback, only undo. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 11:55, June 19, 2019 (EDT)


I noticed you changed RockstarAce to semiprofessional. That doesnt bother me or anything, but i wanted to get a little clarification for when I make future pages.
OK, I should have switched to computer mode on the browser to use undo. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 11:58, June 19, 2019 (EDT)


RockstarAce got 17th at an A tier and 49th at an S tier. Those peaks seem consistent with other players marked professional (say John Numbers or Acestarthe3rd) but unlike John Numbers his drop offs are pretty severe. And he doesnt always consistently place at the top at locals .
== Changing YB from "The World" to "Japan" ==


Is consistency the difference or is there something else I should be looking for when putting them in a category.  
I'm not sure why you think Joker gets to overtake YB on best Dark Samus in the world? Is it because he placed 9th at Low Tier City with Samus? That doesn't make him the best Dark Samus in the world. Also YB took 13th at Prime Saga, which was a much more stacked tournament then LTC was..  


Thanks again for all the help, and sorry for any messes I've made on the pages.  [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 09:05, April 6, 2020 (EDT)
Also, YB is pretty much universally accepted as the best Dark Samus in the world in the character specific discord.
:Not NPM, but I generally look at the national tournaments to determine whether "professional" or "semi-professional" fits better. Generally, if there's a good placement at the stacked tournaments it warrants the professional status (say, 65/3,534 is better than 65/160). On the other hand, if the player consistently places well at regionals, then the smasher deserves the professional status. Finally, top player wins also show that the Smasher has potential to defeat some of the best, so if a player has several PGR player wins outside of locals, I believe they deserve the status.
:The main difference that JN and Ace have with RockstarAce is that they have better consistency, whether it's on a national or regional level. RockstarAce's national placements range from 17th to 385th and do tend to be on the weaker side, and his regional placement is limited but workable. I did take a look at the more local results and RockstarAce seems to do pretty fine locally, plus he has wins over some PGR players, so I don't see a big problem giving him a professional status, although this is a more borderline case imo. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 09:17, April 6, 2020 (EDT)


Thanks that helps a lot.  [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 15:08, April 7, 2020 (EDT)
Actually, CSR was the first one changing that in {{SSBU|Dark Samus}}. Both players have good results so idk.  [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 19:54, July 23, 2019 (EDT)


== YMCA ==


== Specific location ==
The deletion of wario was an accident, I was trying to add tournament results and it wouldn't let me save because we over lapped Lol. So when I copied my List over it erased it. [[User:CR4VE|CR4VE]] ([[User talk:CR4VE|talk]]) 12:44, October 1, 2019 (EDT)


Some smashers (like {{Sm|Chexr}}) have specific location of city and state, and some (like {{Sm|Seven}}) have only their country's name. What defines if player gets the former treatment? [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 13:02, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
:For those tournaments that dont have a ssbwiki page, you should probably add smash.gg/challonge link if the tournament has those links. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 12:59, October 1, 2019 (EDT)


:If Seven's exact location is found, we can easily add the city name to the infobox, otherwise, it will just stay as Japan. There aint any actual limitations. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 13:07, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
== wiki broke ==
::Also, some people don't want their exact locations revealed. In those cases, only the state or region is covered. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 13:09, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
:::OK, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 13:13, May 3, 2020 (EDT)


== Troll ==
Here is your info, I deleted it. It was overlapping tournament results for some reason so I'm giving it to you in case you can fix it. BELOW


This IP is messing up the results for Apex 2013, Apex 2014, and Smash Con 2017:
<code>==External links==
https://www.ssbwiki.com/User:90.204.94.130 [[User:MemeDedede|MemeDedede]] ([[User talk:MemeDedede|talk]]) 14:41, May 5, 2020 (EDT)
*[https://twitter.com/YMCA_ssb Twitter account]
*[https://ssbworld.com/players/11391/ymca SSBWorld profile]
*[https://smashdata.gg/smash/ultimate/player/YMCA?id=176685 Smashdata profile (''Ultimate'')]
*[https://smashdata.gg/smash/4/player/YMCA?id=176685 Smashdata profile (''Smash 4'')]


== F|ags ==
[[:Category:Southern California smashers]]<br>
[[:Category:Donkey Kong professionals (SSB4)]]<br>
[[:Category:Charizard professionals (SSB4)]]<br>
[[:Category:Donkey Kong professionals (SSBU)]]</code>


Some english smashers have England flag and some have the UK's. Which one is correct? If first, does it apply US states flags as well? [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 10:18, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
[[User:CR4VE|CR4VE]] ([[User talk:CR4VE|talk]]) 13:57, October 1, 2019 (EDT)</code>
:Issue resolved, have a nice day. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;border:outset #083 2px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;background:#ed0;padding:1px">Serpent</span>]][[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;background:#083;padding:1px">King</span>]]'''</span> 14:12, October 1, 2019 (EDT)


:From what I believe, if the English smasher exact location is unknown, they the UK flag is used. If we know the smasher's city is England then we usually use the England flag, unless the smasher requested to hide the city. Yeah these probably applies to other countries as well. But for US isnt there only 1 USA flag? [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 10:27, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
== Smasher pages ==
::Like UK [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_U.S._states_and_territories they have]. If other big regions have them, i propose adding them too [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 11:02, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
:::The US is different than the UK. The 50 states are not separate countries - despite having their own government - and are all represented under the US flag. The UK is basically a country of countries; England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are countries but are part of the country of UK.
:::I use the flags of the individual countries instead of UK since I believe those are more accurate. They are from that country, and as such should be represented with that flag. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:02, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
::::OK, got it [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 12:12, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
::I think that's how it is supposed to work *in theory*, but in practice, for example [[Scr7]], a smasher known to hail from Manchester, is inconsistently labeled with UK and England flags. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 11:15, May 8, 2020 (EDT)


In the end, I think it came down to preference. I'm guessing we should make a proposal for all of this. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:20, May 8, 2020 (EDT)
What's up. I just want to say thank you for all the redirects and cleanups that you've been making for all the Smasher pages I made in the last few days. I'm looking into different regions in the competitive scene so that's why there's so many. Also I realize that my edits are sloppy in a few places and I'll fix that in the future. [[User:PowerShield03|PowerShield03]] ([[User talk:PowerShield03|talk]]) 16:47, December 22, 2019 (EST)
:I just assumed it was because the UK is multiple nations that are part of one country. The closest thing in the US would be places like Guam or Puerto Rico. In which case you we would use those flags as they arent states. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 11:26, May 8, 2020 (EDT)


== Mistake ==
:You're welcome. Well, usually when a new (Smasher) page shows up in the recent changes, I'll take a look at it. We all make mistakes sometimes. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 22:30, December 22, 2019 (EST)


Sorries about my mistakes in the Box. Thank you for fixing them [[User:Howplayz|Howplayz]] ([[User talk:Howplayz|talk]]) 00:03, May 11, 2020 (EDT) [[User:Howplayz|Howplayz]] ([[User talk:Howplayz|talk]]) 00:03, May 11, 2020 (EDT)
== Congratulations ==


:No problem! [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 00:05, May 11, 2020 (EDT)
For making your first edit of the decade. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 00:12, January 1, 2020 (EST)


== SW:SIG ==
== Question on the difference between semi-professional and professional? ==


As per [[SW:SIG]], you are only allowed to have two images and/or emojis. Gonna reccomend removing one of the images or emoji as emoji's count as an image. Thanks [[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color: Red;">talk</span>'']])[[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] 21:14, July 12, 2020 (EDT)
I noticed you changed RockstarAce to semiprofessional. That doesnt bother me or anything, but i wanted to get a little clarification for when I make future pages.


:Changed, removed the pig (sadness) [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 21:20, July 12, 2020 (EDT)
RockstarAce got 17th at an A tier and 49th at an S tier. Those peaks seem consistent with other players marked professional (say John Numbers or Acestarthe3rd) but unlike John Numbers his drop offs are pretty severe. And he doesnt always consistently place at the top at locals .


== SSBU page ==
Is consistency the difference or is there something else I should be looking for when putting them in a category.


bro why the heck did u get rid of my edit 6 minutes after i made it lol <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SakuraiWhy|SakuraiWhy]] ([[User talk:SakuraiWhy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SakuraiWhy|contribs]]) 13:02, November 2, 2020 (EDT)</small>
Thanks again for all the help, and sorry for any messes I've made on the pages.  [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 09:05, April 6, 2020 (EDT)
:Not NPM, but I generally look at the national tournaments to determine whether "professional" or "semi-professional" fits better. Generally, if there's a good placement at the stacked tournaments it warrants the professional status (say, 65/3,534 is better than 65/160). On the other hand, if the player consistently places well at regionals, then the smasher deserves the professional status. Finally, top player wins also show that the Smasher has potential to defeat some of the best, so if a player has several PGR player wins outside of locals, I believe they deserve the status.
:The main difference that JN and Ace have with RockstarAce is that they have better consistency, whether it's on a national or regional level. RockstarAce's national placements range from 17th to 385th and do tend to be on the weaker side, and his regional placement is limited but workable. I did take a look at the more local results and RockstarAce seems to do pretty fine locally, plus he has wins over some PGR players, so I don't see a big problem giving him a professional status, although this is a more borderline case imo. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 09:17, April 6, 2020 (EDT)


== Miiya Swordfighter ==
Thanks that helps a lot. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 15:08, April 7, 2020 (EDT)
While I can somewhat understand your reasoning behind wanting the swordfighter not in the retired section, by your same logic, should we not disclude Simon and Joker from this section as well? He only used them in a few offline tournaments in 2019, and hasn't used them since, we also only have one recorded set (according to liquipedia) of him using Simon, while I have nothing for Joker. If Joker and Simon are being kept in retired, I think Mii Swordfighter should be as well, especially since we have more recorded sets showing Miya playing the character. Also, more people are aware of his Swordfighter than they are his Simon and Joker. [[User:VOIDDED|VOIDDED]] 04:22, September 5, 2024 (EDT)~
:Not NPM, but from what I can tell, Miya started out as a Simon and/or Joker player both offline and on Smashmate before playing Mr. Game & Watch, which is why we have them as "retired". Conversely, Mii Swordfighter seemed like a meme/joke pick most of the time, especially since by the time he began playing Mii Swordfighter, he was already an established top player, so he was at the skill level where he can defeat legitimate opponents with basically anyone in the cast (eg his Incineroar against KEN). That being said, if there isn't enough evidence that Simon and Joker were his true mains or were used a lot online, then I would just remove both as well. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:09, September 5, 2024 (EDT)

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