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| :Yeah, ok. We've all kind of had to drop out of here...[[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 00:31, 1 May 2016 (EDT) | | :Yeah, ok. We've all kind of had to drop out of here...[[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 00:31, 1 May 2016 (EDT) |
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| == Welcome back ==
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| What brought you back? [[File:PenroImage.png|19px]][[User:Penro|<font color="red">'''Pen'''</font><font color="black">'''''ro'''''</font>]] 19:42, 10 July 2016 (EDT)
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| == [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pyrosphere&curid=37136&diff=886764&oldid=886754 This] ==
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| Whether or not what you claim is true, it is irrelevant in this case. You are still heavily violating [[SW:1RV]] and I've been monitoring you doing this all day. I request that you cease and bring any further dispute up on a talk page before I have to take action. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:54, 1 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :Cool, but tell that to Miles too. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 00:55, 1 August 2016 (EDT)
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| == [[SW:1RV]] (yet again...) ==
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| Welp, [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Alternate_costume_%28SSB4%29&type=revision&diff=886733&oldid=886380 you just broke] [[SW:1RV]] yet again. I'm not undoing your edit since I would break it too, so I'll just leave this here so an admin sees it ASAP. You should've discussed the theme with me at either my talk page or the page's talk to avoid this. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': is he leaving the wiki?''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 05:52, 9 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :That's just great but can you provide proof of what you're trying to accomplish with the alt costume page? Don't put the blame just on me when you had all the power to discuss it too and you ''still broke it as well''. We both broke a rule, great, but don't come in here pointing a finger when you haven't rightly pointed one at yourself. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 03:55, 10 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Then again, what you were putting was blatantly false information, and you made no attempt to provide reasons to support your reasoning, so I was actually right to revert your edits. It's indisputable that black is not green and white is not green? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 05:54, 10 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::Be that as it may, justifying yourself isn't gonna fly by me. Whether it was blatantly false or not, BeepYou had no malicious intentions, therefore, you should've still discussed it nonetheless (I'm talking to both of you here). You've been reminded about SW:1RV a number of times now and it still doesn't seem to quite stick in your head. Quite frankly, I'm getting somewhat sick of seeing issues like this occur with you, so I'm here to issue a warning: if I catch you edit warring again, you will be blocked for it, as you're still violating rules regardless of whether or not you're right. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:18, 10 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::Eh, AFAIK, SW:1RV only applies after the second time you undo an edit and revert it to your version. Also, I have played the three games, so I know exactly what I'm stating and what I'm removing. There's no blatantly false info whatsoever. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': is he leaving the wiki?''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 21:21, 10 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::Here's what I see happening here: Mute, I really need you to start using talk pages. If you believe an edit to be incorrect or whatever, revert it then go to the user's talk. Beep, edits like those (controversial/opinionated) should probably also be discussed (and proven) before being made. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 21:29, 10 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::::Got it. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': is he leaving the wiki?''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 21:31, 10 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::I got it, but I wasn't trying to justify myself, I was referring to the part in SW:1RV that says there is an exception "For obviously false information, such as a user adding Mewtwo as a character in Brawl, this rule does not apply." I know there were times where I was being stupid, but this is one instance where I can say with confidence that this was definitely false information. It's like saying that that the sun doesn't shine, or that pigs fly, or that computers are live creatures. White and black are green? Blatantly false, right. Don't you understand how that's obviously false? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 00:31, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::::But regardless, I shoulda saw it coming that he wasn't willing to prove it or talk it out and I should have initiated talking on my own accord, even when if I was in line with the exception. Sorry guys. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 00:49, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::::After reviewing the images, I am going to have to agree that [http://www.kidicaruswiki.org/File:Palutena%27s_old_looks_(teenager).png this] is nothing like her green swap. You can't say that something borrows the pallet of something else if that pallet is black and white. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 01:16, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::::::Hm, you're just saying that now? I hope you and Disaster actually gave this situation a proper analysis prior to jumping into this dilemma. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 01:36, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| The dilemma at hand in this conversation was the 1RV breach, not the subject of it. You may want to reconsider your rude words. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 01:40, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :I wasn't trying to be rude, I can see why you interpreted that way and I am sorry for not wording it better. If you don't understand the specifics of the situation, how can you properly and fairly deal with it? That's what I'm trying to say. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 01:46, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Seems like you were insinuating you didn't look into it prior to talking here, and I was wondering if that was true or not. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 01:49, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::I did not cross compare the images before, no. Incidentally, the link you left for Palutena's desc4 is bad. Please replace it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 02:01, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::Already done. Just try to get a solid idea of the problem before jumping in, okay? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 02:12, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| *''"Don't put the blame just on me when you had all the power to discuss it too..."''<br>
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| I guess you're right, yet blaming people for the same actions you made is ironical, eh?<br>
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| *''"We both broke a rule, great, but don't come in here pointing a finger when you haven't rightly pointed one at yourself."''<br>
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| I don't have to, because I never broke the rule.<br>
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| *''"...what you were putting was blatantly false information..."''<br>
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| I realized it wasn't blatantly false, but rather false in a non-malicious way. It did look like dull green to me. Her vambraces, her lower dress, her hair.<br>
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| *''"...you made no attempt to provide reasons to support your reasoning..."''<br>
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| I did! They were on my edit summary!<br>
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| *''"I was actually right to revert your edits."''<br>
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| On one side, yes. If I was putting wrong info, you can. But on the other side, no. Because you broke the rule instead of just editing an old version of the page.<br>
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| *''"I was referring to the part in SW:1RV that says there is an exception "For obviously false information, such as a user adding Mewtwo as a character in Brawl, this rule does not apply.""''<br>
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| Like I said, it wasn't obviously false. It was false in a non-malicious way, like Disaster Flare said.<br>
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| *''"I know there were times where I was being stupid..."''<br>
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| Not stupid, but stubborn.<br>
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| *''"I shoulda saw it coming that he wasn't willing to prove it or talk it out..."''<br>
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| YES I WAS! That's why I initiated this conversation on your talk page! I just did it late, that's all!<br>
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| *''"I should have initiated talking on my own accord..."''<br>
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| When? When edit warring becomes noticeable and an admin points it out for both of us?<br>
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| *''"I hope you and Disaster actually gave this situation a proper analysis prior to jumping into this dilemma."''<br>
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| Wow, rude. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': is he leaving the wiki?''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 16:48, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :I may or may not be fueling the fire right now, and I'm not going to address everything you said above, but just to be clear, a statement can be both obviously false and non-malicious. Like a kid can say that Santa Claus / the Easter Bunny is real. Or if you're just learning about times tables and say that 3 times 9 is 12. Or, sometimes when you're cracking jokes or being sarcastic (at least when you're not trying to tear someone down). An obviously false and non-malicious statement usually comes about from some sort of misunderstanding or misconception, which I'd say is what happened here. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 22:48, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| You both are bending 1RV to your own benefit. Beep, if you want to prove that black possibly with a tint of green resembles Palu's green swap (which it doesn't by the way), you'll have to bring that to the talk page first. You also did break 1RV right [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Alternate_costume_(SSB4)&diff=886380&oldid=882807 here]. Mute, while the information may have been false, talk first act later. Your first revert was fine, the second one not so much. A claim that silly (sorry beep) will not impress the rest of the userbase. If you had just done that, we'd have ended up with the same result but without all of this needless childish drama. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:11, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :I'm not trying to prove it anymore. I'll just deal with it... reluctantly, but I will. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]]''': is he leaving the wiki?''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 18:58, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :Man you got it, Serpent. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 22:14, 11 August 2016 (EDT)
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| == about that edit summary ==
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| Sorry, I am feeling a little tired and wasn't thinking correctly. Sorry again [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 01:28, 12 June 2017 (EDT)
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| :Oh, it's okay. I'm sorry (and tired) too. I don't like dealing with long conversation over talk pages so I get quick to give people a piece of my mind over summaries. I shouldn't do that, and I also shouldn't have been as harsh. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah#top|talk]]) 01:35, 12 June 2017 (EDT)
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| ::lol same here I just can't help it with the edit summary things, even after being reminded of it like 3 times. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 01:39, 12 June 2017 (EDT)
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