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| :<span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]I see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 15:31, 26 July 2015 (EDT) | | :<span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]I see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 15:31, 26 July 2015 (EDT) |
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| == Meta Knight ==
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| You seem to like Meta Knight. How would you feel about writing the "Attributes" section on the {{PM|Meta Knight}} page (the section above the "Changes from ''Brawl'' to ''PM''" section)? I don't play as Meta Knight, so I don't know him well enough to be able to write about him, but I bet you could. The section doesn't have to be terribly long. Somewhere between [[Ness (PM)|the one here]] and [[Roy (PM)|the one here]]. I ask this because a lot of character pages still need those sections to be started or expanded. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 09:27, 24 November 2015 (EST)
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| :Personally I would really like to but the fact is that I have more knowledge of him during the 3.02 days, and am aware that that info is outdated. So, while I would like to write the attributes section for [[Meta Knight (PM)]] I think Im going to hold off for now until I discuss this with my more experienced tourney partner (especially his tier placement: Some people say he's low tier, some say he's mid-high tier. Personally, I think he has Top tier potential, and no I'm not being a "T!3R F@G"... Plus bad grammar and I'm busy with school :P). I'm still willing to do it, just not right now.
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| :I will however give more technical change data change comparisons from Brawl (and maybe Smash 4) to Project M, as that is easier for me due to SmashBoards and me being able to properly use PSA.
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| :[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''My Destiny is Victory!'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 11:19, 24 November 2015 (EST)
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| ::Sure, do it any time you want to. Even if you wrote a section that was more accurate to the 3.02 Meta Knight, it could still be adjusted somewhat to fit the 3.6 one. Thanks for contributing! (Btw, I slightly edited your post to fit the standard conventions of the talk pages, I hope you don't mind.) <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 14:16, 25 November 2015 (EST)
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| :I Did It!!! [[Meta Knight (PM)|See]]......................... Oh God Im so tired from that.....( ;-_-)......Now I have to do [[Rufio|This]]..........( ;-_-)( ;-_-)( ;-_-)
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| ::[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''My Destiny is Victory!'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 11:44, 4 January 2016 (PST)
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| == Regarding technical info about the game ==
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| I recommend you to indeed use some math and calculate how much ending lag does the move have in comparison to its Brawl iteration, instead of always mentioning "(interruptibility frame: 20 > XX)" as it takes a lot of space in the page. Just a tip to edit better, like in Dedede's page. -- [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 03:00, 17 January 2016 (EST)
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| I heard it's your birthday, so Happy Birthday! -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 00:31, 19 January 2016 (EST)
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| == Hello ==
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| Why did you arbitrarily choose "knockback growth" as the common term over "knockback scaling"? Scaling is more descriptive of what the mechanic actually is, and it's what we use in all the related moveset subpage templates. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Yoshi 22:43, 15 February 2016 (EST)
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| # I see growth used more commonly now, so I thought that growth is better fitting to describe "the ''growth'' of a move".
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| # The term ''KBG'' being commonly used within data mining through both ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4''.
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| # The reasons of consistency; it can be confusing for new players to know that ''Scaling'' and ''Growth'' are the same thing, so I decided to keep one or the other (growth being more commonly used, so I went with that).
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| So with that in mind, I thought growth would be more fitting to use, and because I personally like Growth more than scaling (though that personal preference didn't at all determine why I changed it).
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| Also, question: "If scaling ''Is'' the proper term, then why is growth used more?" I'm a bit curious on that.
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| ::[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''My Destiny is Victory!'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 8:04, 15 February 2016 (PST)
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| ::Yeah people not using the proper term has been a problem since forever, really. I think the only reason that "growth" might be seeing more popularity recently is because the one or two guys that control most of the data flow picked it, so everyone assumes it's the proper term (probably why you see "KBG" everywhere). (Though to be fair neither term is official, which is normally how we decide what "proper" is.)
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| ::Now if we remove popularity from the equation (which we shouldn't completely, but just to see), then I think "scaling" is more descriptive in terms of "what exactly does this do". I'm probably biased myself, but I see "growth" as a biased term because it sounds large, as if it starts low and can only go up. "Scaling" on the other hand feels more like it starts in the middle and can be increased or decreased, which is how the underlying equation operates.
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| ::In the end I don't feel all that strongly that this is worth doing a wiki-wide standardization on; both terms are used often enough, we don't need to have a page titled as one or the other, and as long as things are consistent in the same section/page I don't think there's too much opportunity for confusion. It'd be kind of like our stance on American/non-American spelling: you can use either, but don't intermix them too close together.
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| ::Side note: Please read [[SW:SIG]]; you can't use templates or mainspace images in your signature. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Keymaster 00:16, 16 February 2016 (EST)
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| :::In what move does knockback shrink with damage, though? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 00:31, 16 February 2016 (EST)
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| ::::...I'm not sure how to respond to that. I know of no moves with ''negative'' scaling, though there's a chance that some of the games might do that if given the right input. But there's a ton of moves with ''normal'' scaling (i.e. 100, or 1.0 depending how you read it), ''increased'' scaling (x > 100), and ''decreased'' scaling (0 <= x < 100). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Indescribable 10:19, 16 February 2016 (EST)
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| Where did you see King Dedede has lower air speed? --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]]''' 19:16, 2 March 2016 (EST)
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| It wasn't me. An anonymous user (184.89.170.235) just posted it in ''Update History'' and then {{User|WolfBloodSpam}} said he found a link [http://smashboards.com/threads/the-final-content-1-1-4-patch-discussion.430033/page-25 that shows "evidence"] (Falco also appears to be in a similar situation, except his was increased). I too am ambiguous to if it is actually true, as the patch notes forum on SmashBoards and Kurogane Hammer didn't have this change listed, and it probably would have been found by now if it was. But I put it in ''Attributes'' anyway, and if this claim is false, I (or anyone really) will remove it. (Also, it is an outrage because Dedede already has the lowest air speed in the game, so why decrease it even more?)
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| ::[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''My Destiny is Victory!'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 4:32, 2 March 2016 (PST)
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| :Hmmm... I'll check it out. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]]''' 19:42, 2 March 2016 (EST)
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| I've seen people say "it still works, just at later percents," and others say, "it's completely unviable."
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| Who's right, or is it a middle-ground? I've tried on CPU's, and it works at later percents, but CPU's really don't have very good DI.
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| [[User:Dhiaalhanai|Dhiaalhanai]] ([[User talk:Dhiaalhanai|talk]]) 07:37, 16 March 2016 (EDT)Dhia Al Hanai
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| It is defiantly possible, I've done it multiple times on a Level 8 "Sakurai" [[Mii]] (I think you can guess why). One difference is that it works at a later percent; before it would work on {{SSB4|Pikachu}} at 37%, but now it doesn't work on Pikachu until 50%, this is because of the new angle combined with the decreased damage output and increased SDI multiplier makes it so that the move actually does technically ''less'' knockback. Another issue is that the more horizontal angle makes it easier to DI, though I'm not to sure on how significant this is because all of my friends ''have the brain a size of a walnut'' when it comes to Smash, and it being hard to tell if CPUs are properly DIing.
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| [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 15:31, 16 March 2016 (EDT)
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| == The [[Rufio]] ==
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| [http://youtu.be/oA7FWgYixaE It is still alive <nowiki>:]</nowiki>] --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 11:10, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
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| I know, I never said it was gone (funerals over today anyway!) :]
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| [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 16:12, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
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| IRC? Can I see you there? --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 20:02, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
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| What exactly is that and why?[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 20:05, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
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| ::[[SW:IRC|Read this]]. It can be used to chat with whoever you want without clogging the recent edits :] --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 20:06, 1 April 2016 (EDT)
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| == {{SSB4|Meta Knight}} ==
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| Did I do a good edit? :] --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 22:56, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
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| Yeah... I don't see any problem to it! --[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]]
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| == Ur userbox ==
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| I'm using it. Come 'ere buddy! --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 11:59, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| Yay! :D --[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 18:26, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| I've seen you mention it multiple times. What is it? And where can I find it? That sounds pretty helpful. [[User:WolfBloodSpam|WolfBloodSpam]] ([[User talk:WolfBloodSpam|talk]]) 21:03, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| :So instead of searching for it [[PSA|on Wiki]], you go to ask someone? Alright then. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 21:19, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| Well, how am I supposed to know that was it was actually called? I never heard of it before and I thought "PSA" could mean at totally different thing. I thought about searching for it on the wiki or on Google, but for all I knew it could've taken me to something completely un-related. [[User:WolfBloodSpam|WolfBloodSpam]] ([[User talk:WolfBloodSpam|talk]]) 21:41, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| I'll explain more specific details about it anyway. "[[Project Smash Attacks]]" is an old (and fairly outdated) program that has the ability to view and edit character files for ''Brawl''. It shows character attributes (weight, dash speed, fall speed, etc.) damage values, base knockback, knockback growth, SDI multiplier, hitlag multiplier, trip rate, hitbox sizes, etc.
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| **Start the program and open the character's ''Fit[Character Name].pac'' file. That simple!
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| **It is unable to open King Dedede's Fit.pac file (which is why Dedede's Smash 4 "Changes from ''Brawl''" section has no knockback value changes reported; otherwise I would've found all of them by now).
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| **Viewing special moves can be a challenge for characters whose specials contain a ''special'' property to them (such as reflectors or counters).
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| **Startup and ending lag values are very troublesome to view and understand properly due to them being shown like this example when viewing Meta Knight's glide attack: (''Asynchronous Timer: frames=4'' instead of ''Startup: frame 5'').
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| Considering how old PSA is, ''Open Smash Attacks'' is a better option, as it is basically an improved version of PSA. However, it is not compatible with my computer (it's a real shame, because I heard it can open Dedede's files), so it would be great if other users use it to find more changes between all of the ''Smash'' games. ([https://github.com/dantarion/opensa3 Current version of Open Smash Attacks (V3)]).
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| Got anymore questions on it? You can ask me and I'll try to answer them. --[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 21:42, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| OK. Thank you [[User:WolfBloodSpam|WolfBloodSpam]] ([[User talk:WolfBloodSpam|talk]]) 21:45, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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| I added it [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 06:53, 18 May 2016 (EDT)
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| :Also to say, i won some tournaments in PEI, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Newfoundland & Labrador, Quebec and even some high placings in ontario! [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 19:21, 18 May 2016 (EDT)
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| Thats great! I don't travel often due to school, costs, and my age, but I do if I have a chance. I am mostly active in the Summer due to all of those reasons I mention no longer being a problem, which is why I have few results (most of them in the summer) despite me being considered the best Meta Knight in Vancouver (so I guess you can say that I'm more of a ''hidden boss'' of Vancouver). [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 20:02, 18 May 2016 (EDT)
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| :: So i got the east and you got the west! [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 14:05, 19 May 2016 (EDT)
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| About Jbandrew, I would like to bring an SF5 example in this. Marn is a US player, but now lives in Vietnam. Capcom lists Marn as Vietnamese for Capcom Pro Tour. Smash doesn't have an official league, but SF5 does. Capcom considers Marn (originally from US, now in Nam) a Vietnamese player due to location. Given the Marn example is more professional, I would like to have Jbandrew listed as German. ZeRo is not in a league, but Marn is. Also more examples.
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| If you said no to all of those, then we should list Jbandrew as German. Please do not relist him as American unless he moves back. Thanks friend. [[File:FXSig2.png]] [[User:Falcon-X|'''Falconian Leader''']] ([[User talk:Falcon-X#top|''Enter the Leader's Office'']]) 10:43, 24 May 2016 (EST)
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| Want to play some smash? [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 19:07, 27 May 2016 (EDT)
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| :Well, not right now cause work [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 19:13, 27 May 2016 (EDT)
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| ::I would like to, but for Smash 4, I am severely held back by one problem: [[Frame delay|INPUT LAG]]. And no, I don't mean the simple ''For Glory 5-7 frame delay'', I mean [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYgiDPeeXuo&t=1m2s THIS KIND OF LAG] that makes playing online for me near unplayable. True story: I seriously use the tag ''INPUT LAG'' to show players my problem, and that I am simply testing it, but most players I've encountered are complete @$$h0les and don't care for my problem. (Fun fact: The only match I've played without input lag was ironically with a player FROM JAPAN). I don't have an ethernet cable and don't plan on getting one, because frankly, going all the way of buying something that is rare in stores and goes for a high amounts online just for something that I may or may not use isn't truly worth it in the end (plus, my TV is nowhere near an ethernet wall-jack). I am aware of the ''Wi-Fi priority list'', but only my dad has control over that, and he's not likely going put my Wii U higher on the list just for playing games (since 2/3 of the time he is using his computer for work, and because of how many devices my household has connected: computers, laptops, cell phones, dad's devices, etc). So I need to see if my dad can put my Wii U higher up the list first as well as more testing before I can play online matches that are at least decent with lag.
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| ::However, I am willing to test right now or any time (except if I'm busy with family stuff, school days (Mon-Fri) and tomorrow (Saturday, May 28th, 2016) because I have a Melee tournament at [http://www.vancouvergamingexpo.com/ this]) to see if my Wi-Fi is any better (I heard Wi-Fi connection is mostly determined by whoever is host, but I don't remember, but if thats the case, maybe you can try hosting to see if that works).
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| :::**If I side taunt, there no ''significant'' input lag, and I am ready to get my @$$ wooped and die at 5% because MK weighs like 2lbs (I lose in the dumbest ways possible, such as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oChsO0-iP0Q&index=64&list=PLdA_P2NSglcg0f1OF_VI0GnnWYZlApz4j&t=19m34s this] happening to me as well).
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| :::**If I up taunt, then there is lag but is still fairly playable, like the standard ''clean'' For Glory (≈4-5 frames at best).
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| :::**If I down taunt and kill myself, then it is near unplayable lag and further things need to be done to my Wii U's Wi-Fi.
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| :::But anyway, NNID is ''lockforward5'' (my dad came up with it not me) and [https://www.smashladder.com/player/97719/metaking Anther's Ladder], if there are any problems of my two accounts please tell me immediately.
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| ::As for <span class="explain" title="NOT PIRATING! I own official copies of all these games (my Smash 64 is from the Wii virtual console, but I'm ''pretty'' sure that still counts... Right?">''Smash 64'', ''Melee'' (I normally use ''20XX hack pack 4.05''), ''Brawl'', or ''Project M''</span>, I would have to get and setup Netplay ISOs first. Also, I am a Mac user (sadly), so my emulators are ''OpenEmu'' for ''Smash 64'', and ''Dolphin 4.0'' (the latest ver. for Mac) for the latter three, and I have a USB N64 controller and a Mayflash GameCube adapter (I use the official one for Wii U) *Experience may vary for both lag and skill level.
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| ::So yeah, that was A LOT of info, but I tried to cover as much as I can. [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 22:39, 27 May 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::UPDATE*: I am now able to play Melee, Brawl, and Project M netplay via Anther's Ladder. For Melee however, a ''20XX Hack Pack 4.05'' ISO is preferred (I can provide a download link if you want). -- --[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 02:58, 28 May 2016 (EDT)
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| == Just something random ==
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| *(reads his user page because reasons)
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| *(arrives to the Smash 4 opinion section)
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| *(reads the "underrated characters" section and finds his main)
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| I love you :'] --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 14:00, 28 May 2016 (EDT)
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| == Thoughts on Borb ==
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| I noticed that on your user page, you listed Meta Knight as one of the most underrated characters in Smash 4.
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| Also, are you on discord, for sake of convenience? ~dhiaalhanai, 1:02 AM
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| :In my opinion, the 1.1.5. patch didn't kill him in the metagame (no pun intended). For me, it wasn't the up air nerf that killed him, it was his match-ups against (as I refer to them as) ''THE [[Mario (SSB4)|EZ]] [[Cloud (SSB4)|WIN]] characters!'' (Vancouver is INFAMOUS for having TONS of Mario and Cloud players, and everyone there knows it... Literally!) I think people really are over reacting about the up air change, and while yes, it did hurt MK in the process, people seem to forget that he has more than ''a death elevator'' as a means to be viable. The rest of his moveset IMO is relatively underused, which can potentially help him against certain characters, such ; I am known to often use dash-dances, SHFFs, forward tilts, down smashes, down airs, side Bs, and down Bs rather unusually, but surprisingly effectively (Dimensional Cape in particular has made me infamous for my accuracy and precision with the move; some know know me as '''The Dimensional King''' because of it).
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| :So, anyway, where do I think MK is in the tier list? Well, simply put, he can range from 10th-20th on it, no where below that.
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| :And about discord: well, not yet. I am not exactly keen on the idea of it (yet), combined with me being busy. But if I get more and more people requesting me to try it, I might. To compensate, I could give my other accounts; SmashBoards, Anther's Latter, and NNID. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!
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| :Also as an added bonus: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXw4O2hYEGQ&t=1m49s My Dedede]...
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| :[[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 22:48, 28 July 2016 (EDT)
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| == A question ==
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| Where did you find the Brawl attributes/frame data for each character? I remember you found lots of Brawl King Dedede's aspects that way, which you used to write changes in his SSB4 page. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] <font color="Purple">'''Feliz Noviembre'''</font> <font color="Yellow"> '''de parte de'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Gray">'''BeepYou :)'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="#F50087">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 16:42, 10 November 2016 (EST)
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| ''Project Smash Attacks v1.3'' is the best way to view character attributes without having to understand hexadecimal, and is the ONLY one compatible with Dedede's ''Fit.pac'' file. [https://www.dropbox.com/home/PSA%201.3%20(For%20Dedede) I have provided a download link here] from my Dropbox of that version, and a few Brawl character files (to find Brawl character files and Brawl files in general, see [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4vhNdf69qaSZ0N0MnBjOXFYMU0 here].) With those in hand, I compare them to Kurogane Hammer (updated as of 1.1.6.) and [http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/mastercore3/ Dantarion]'s (Only between 1.0.0.-1.1.1. ; In hexadecimal) Smash 4 file dumps. I hope this covers everything you want to know.
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| Also, bonus video of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcK4l3bzBso&t=0m49s My Meta Knight ;)]
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| [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 19:16, 10 November 2016 (EST)
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| :Ah wonderful. This serves me well, thanks. Also the shield break followed by a Rufio lol --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] <font color="Purple">'''Feliz Noviembre'''</font> <font color="Yellow"> '''de parte de'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Gray">'''BeepYou :)'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="#F50087">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 19:24, 10 November 2016 (EST)
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| == so ==
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| Don't really know you but, happy birthday, i suppose. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 15:01, 18 January 2017 (EST)
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| Thanks! [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''20MK_MetaKing'''</span>]] [[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 18:41, 18 January 2017 (EST)
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| == Meta Knight is OP ==
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| Why in the literal world would Meta Knight being overpowered as ''hell'' be good for Brawl's tournament scene in any way? [[User:Skuchi037|Skuchi037]] ([[User talk:Skuchi037|talk]]) 22:43, 28 November 2018 (EST)
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| == April Fools Clean Up ==
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| I was going to revert my April Fools edits, but noticed that you beat me to it. Thank you! [[User:OldLink5|OldLink5]] ([[User talk:OldLink5|talk]]) 22:24, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
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| Lol no probs. :) [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]] [[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 22:49, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
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