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And why should I tell you who I am again?
And why should I tell you who I am again?


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 05:32, August 9, 2015</small>
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:1. Who are you?  
:1. Who are you?  
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It is unlikely Marth will spike (pun not intended), and I agree he is not great, but at the very least, he is upper-mid tier. Just keep your cool man.
It is unlikely Marth will spike (pun not intended), and I agree he is not great, but at the very least, he is upper-mid tier. Just keep your cool man.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 6:52, August 9, 2015</small>
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You've stated alot of unsubstantiated claims and what ifs. You have not presented (or proven) any facts. First of all, your personal experience doesn't mean anything. You got beat by Marth players? Ok, that shows you don't know what you were doing, not that Marth has some secret potential waiting to be unlocked (seriously, think about how far fetched that conclusion is). You haven't stated any notable names and I doubt the players you are losing to won't make top 8 at the next EVO.  
You've stated alot of unsubstantiated claims and what ifs. You have not presented (or proven) any facts. First of all, your personal experience doesn't mean anything. You got beat by Marth players? Ok, that shows you don't know what you were doing, not that Marth has some secret potential waiting to be unlocked (seriously, think about how far fetched that conclusion is). You haven't stated any notable names and I doubt the players you are losing to won't make top 8 at the next EVO.  
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Thank you all for paying attention to what I have to say.
Thank you all for paying attention to what I have to say.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 9:56, August 10, 2015</small>
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I want to add a few more things:
I want to add a few more things:
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Again, thank you for hearing what I have to say.
Again, thank you for hearing what I have to say.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 10:08, August 10, 2015</small>
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I'm back again after reading a recent change on the Marth page.  
I'm back again after reading a recent change on the Marth page.  
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It seems you are trying to snuff out all faith that Marth can be good, I didn't say he was necessarily good, said opinions were divided. You are acting like only your opinion exists. Marth is a low tier, but he has a candle of potential lol, you can't deny the fact that Marth is not completely useless, but then again, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine.
It seems you are trying to snuff out all faith that Marth can be good, I didn't say he was necessarily good, said opinions were divided. You are acting like only your opinion exists. Marth is a low tier, but he has a candle of potential lol, you can't deny the fact that Marth is not completely useless, but then again, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 10:16, August 10, 2015</small>
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The problem is that these opinions about Marth, including yours, are based on a faulty understanding of the game. You also have questionable sources of information. Seriously, Marth was considered amazing in early Melee, even when everyone was a scrub. Azen, the first good player, beat literally everyone via forward smash reads. Like I said, when you come up with an argument for Marth that has the logical soundness of mine, then I'll listen. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 11:41, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The problem is that these opinions about Marth, including yours, are based on a faulty understanding of the game. You also have questionable sources of information. Seriously, Marth was considered amazing in early Melee, even when everyone was a scrub. Azen, the first good player, beat literally everyone via forward smash reads. Like I said, when you come up with an argument for Marth that has the logical soundness of mine, then I'll listen. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 11:41, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
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<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 2:13, August 10, 2015</small>
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== To Brian and Miles ==
== To Brian and Miles ==
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<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 4:25, August 10, 2015</small>
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Haha. Say this to me again when you reach the same level of understanding I have about the game.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:38, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
Haha. Say this to me again when you reach the same level of understanding I have about the game.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:38, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
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I'm not going to say you were not wrong about the fact that Marth is arguably the most severely nerfed character in the game. However, you go as far as to say Marth has no strengths and is completely useless.
I'm not going to say you were not wrong about the fact that Marth is arguably the most severely nerfed character in the game. However, you go as far as to say Marth has no strengths and is completely useless.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 4:44, August 10, 2015</small>
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The gimmicks you perceive as strengths mean nothing to me. Whatever attractive features left in his kit are too few and far between to do anything significant. He's nothing but a scrub slayer now.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:52, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The gimmicks you perceive as strengths mean nothing to me. Whatever attractive features left in his kit are too few and far between to do anything significant. He's nothing but a scrub slayer now.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:52, 10 August 2015 (EDT)


We'll see. I'm not counting on it. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 5:00, August 10, 2015</small>
We'll see. I'm not counting on it. {{unsigned|45.37.25.25|5:00, August 10, 2015}}


I would agree with Brian on this one. Unless if Marth gets an extreme buff in his neutral and punish game in a patch, I see him nowhere as viable compared to Melee and <s>Brawl</s>; although that being said, I wouldn't say he's complete shit like Lucina is. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Medic 17:01, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
I would agree with Brian on this one. Unless if Marth gets an extreme buff in his neutral and punish game in a patch, I see him nowhere as viable compared to Melee and <s>Brawl</s>; although that being said, I wouldn't say he's complete shit like Lucina is. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Medic 17:01, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
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...to [[SW:AN#Other policy breaking|this]]. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 21:46, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
...to [[SW:AN#Other policy breaking|this]]. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 21:46, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
:Weird how he hasn't noticed. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 18:47, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
::More likely he's ignoring us. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  18:52, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
:::Most likely. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 19:22, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
You guys really have no fuckin idea why he is ignoring you guys. In the past, he told me in [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Marth_(SSB4)&diff=prev&oldid=711788 edit summary] saying it's not worth discussing with Miles who can't properly define subjective. This is because of different views about subjective. If it is not worth discussing with Miles, then it is not worth talking to you guys about his problems. To my conclusion, this indicates that you guy have a problem with him, not Brian. If he is ignoring you guys about that shit, so what? Are you going to continue that way? Hell no. Unless you are talking about something specific, you're wasting your time. If you have nothing else to say, then stop doing this. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 19:47, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
Also guys. Note how he is using an IP to edit recently just to avoid getting notified by the shit that we send him. If you guys are going to continue annoying him, he might as well even ask for his user account to be deleted just like PSIWolf did. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Non-stick 21:41, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
@Luigi540 and Dots: We can't just let him go free to violate [[SW:NPA]]. Unless he shows signs of ceasing, we don't need to stop. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 12:23, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
:Actually, I'm with Luigi540 and Dots here. If he doesn't give a shit, then that's his problem. Forcing him to take care of it is only gonna make it worse. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:13, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
== Archiving ==
I'm not going to get on your case or anything but since your talk page is again 75 KB big, you might want to consider [[SW:TALK#Archiving|archiving]] again. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Medic 21:53, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
== Can't believe I'm saying this but.... ==
I apologize for the way I've been acting towards you in the past (I am [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25]]). Not only have I been criticizing you for the wrong reasons, I have been criticizing you way too much. I still feel like you should keep your cool (and you've been quite non-inflammatory for a while), but I realize I am also at fault. Please forgive me. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 14:55, 20 September 2015 (EDT)
== Why do you do this shit ==
Will you please stop offending me on the Discord server, please? It's not cool, and I don't appreciate you behaving like that torwards me. Okay? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: yellow;">'''the Easter Bunny Warrior'''</span>]] 03:23, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
You also need to archive your talk page. It has over 80,000 bytes! I'm surprised someone didn't notice already. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: yellow;">'''the Easter Bunny Warrior'''</span>]] 03:25, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
Actually, scratch that. Someone did notify you, so you need to do it. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: yellow;">'''the Easter Bunny Warrior'''</span>]] 03:26, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

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