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::You don't understand shit if you think Melee Marth's grab is OP. You're the 1 that fucked up if you got grabbed buddy.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 02:21, 1 February 2015 (EST)
::You don't understand shit if you think Melee Marth's grab is OP. You're the 1 that fucked up if you got grabbed buddy.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 02:21, 1 February 2015 (EST)
     
I laughed at how much you missed OT's point. Key words you used were "uninformed" and "objective" to describe how little he knew yet you were so focused on letting everyone know a Top 5 grab reach was awful. 08:32, 18 August 2015 (EDT)


::Fine perhaps I should explain to the uninformed why Marth is fine having a long grab range. Simply put, it fits his design of having a neutral game where he has to stay safe and maintain his distance from someone. Marth's goal in neutral is to move forward but without the intent of getting a first hit. Marth cannot be the first to commit in neutral. This is because his moves, while are fast startup wise, have very very punishable endlag, have really short duration, do not cover a constant area of space (because the hitboxes move in arcs), and are crouch cancel-able if Marth is close to his opponents. Thus Marth's goal is to get hits not by committing first, but by punishing commitments, which he pressures opponents into doing by moving forward. This includes the way he gets grabs; the most common way you see Marths get grabs is baiting whiffs with dash dances and grabbing the whiffed attack from afar. Having a normal grab range means that he would have to actually go for raw grabs out neutral, aka hard reading when someone is going to shield, roll or spot dodge and then committing to the grab. That violates the aforementioned playstyle Marth is designed to do.  
::Fine perhaps I should explain to the uninformed why Marth is fine having a long grab range. Simply put, it fits his design of having a neutral game where he has to stay safe and maintain his distance from someone. Marth's goal in neutral is to move forward but without the intent of getting a first hit. Marth cannot be the first to commit in neutral. This is because his moves, while are fast startup wise, have very very punishable endlag, have really short duration, do not cover a constant area of space (because the hitboxes move in arcs), and are crouch cancel-able if Marth is close to his opponents. Thus Marth's goal is to get hits not by committing first, but by punishing commitments, which he pressures opponents into doing by moving forward. This includes the way he gets grabs; the most common way you see Marths get grabs is baiting whiffs with dash dances and grabbing the whiffed attack from afar. Having a normal grab range means that he would have to actually go for raw grabs out neutral, aka hard reading when someone is going to shield, roll or spot dodge and then committing to the grab. That violates the aforementioned playstyle Marth is designed to do.  
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:::Apparently, Marth's grab range in Melee was larger than Yoshi's grab range. Any character that didn't have a tether grab probably would have benefited from having a grab with that range to begin with. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 14:24, 1 February 2015 (EST)
:::Apparently, Marth's grab range in Melee was larger than Yoshi's grab range. Any character that didn't have a tether grab probably would have benefited from having a grab with that range to begin with. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 14:24, 1 February 2015 (EST)
::::Yoshi's grab isn't a tether grab dude. It's actually not that much shorter; the difference is about 1 unit. And the only reason Marth got that grab in the gif was because Yoshi has a really large hurtbox on his nose. Put Fox in Yoshi's place and Marth would not have gotten the grab.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 16:18, 1 February 2015 (EST)
::::Yoshi's grab isn't a tether grab dude. It's actually not that much shorter; the difference is about 1 unit. And the only reason Marth got that grab in the gif was because Yoshi has a really large hurtbox on his nose. Put Fox in Yoshi's place and Marth would not have gotten the grab.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 16:18, 1 February 2015 (EST)
:I laughed at how much you missed OT's point. Key words you used were "uninformed" and "objective" to describe how little he knew yet you were so focused on letting everyone know a Top 5 grab reach was awful. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 18:45, 29 August 2015 (EDT)


==[http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Marth_(SSB4)&curid=39190&diff=644244&oldid=642435 this]==
==[http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Marth_(SSB4)&curid=39190&diff=644244&oldid=642435 this]==
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He is in the middle tier that's closer to trash tier than the top tier. Marth will not be winning any large tournaments in the game except by patches or a really really REALLY lucky miracle. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 00:25, 20 February 2015 (EST)
He is in the middle tier that's closer to trash tier than the top tier. Marth will not be winning any large tournaments in the game except by patches or a really really REALLY lucky miracle. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 00:25, 20 February 2015 (EST)
:I think the Top 5 are from 5 to 1 (assuming customs are off): Sheik, Luigi, Rosalina, Pikachu, and Ness/Meta Knight. Bottom 5 IMO 5 to 1 (customs off):  Ganondorf/Samus, Zelda, Palutena/Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, and Dedede. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 19:35, 31 August 2015 (EDT)
::This discussion is old. It is not necessary to discuss this further. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The 20XX player 20:27, 31 August 2015 (EDT)


== Just so you know ==
== Just so you know ==
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And why should I tell you who I am again?
And why should I tell you who I am again?


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 05:32, August 9, 2015</small>
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:1. Who are you?  
:1. Who are you?  
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It is unlikely Marth will spike (pun not intended), and I agree he is not great, but at the very least, he is upper-mid tier. Just keep your cool man.
It is unlikely Marth will spike (pun not intended), and I agree he is not great, but at the very least, he is upper-mid tier. Just keep your cool man.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 6:52, August 9, 2015</small>
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You've stated alot of unsubstantiated claims and what ifs. You have not presented (or proven) any facts. First of all, your personal experience doesn't mean anything. You got beat by Marth players? Ok, that shows you don't know what you were doing, not that Marth has some secret potential waiting to be unlocked (seriously, think about how far fetched that conclusion is). You haven't stated any notable names and I doubt the players you are losing to won't make top 8 at the next EVO.  
You've stated alot of unsubstantiated claims and what ifs. You have not presented (or proven) any facts. First of all, your personal experience doesn't mean anything. You got beat by Marth players? Ok, that shows you don't know what you were doing, not that Marth has some secret potential waiting to be unlocked (seriously, think about how far fetched that conclusion is). You haven't stated any notable names and I doubt the players you are losing to won't make top 8 at the next EVO.  
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Thank you all for paying attention to what I have to say.
Thank you all for paying attention to what I have to say.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 9:56, August 10, 2015</small>
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I want to add a few more things:
I want to add a few more things:
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Again, thank you for hearing what I have to say.
Again, thank you for hearing what I have to say.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 10:08, August 10, 2015</small>
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I'm back again after reading a recent change on the Marth page.  
I'm back again after reading a recent change on the Marth page.  
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It seems you are trying to snuff out all faith that Marth can be good, I didn't say he was necessarily good, said opinions were divided. You are acting like only your opinion exists. Marth is a low tier, but he has a candle of potential lol, you can't deny the fact that Marth is not completely useless, but then again, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine.
It seems you are trying to snuff out all faith that Marth can be good, I didn't say he was necessarily good, said opinions were divided. You are acting like only your opinion exists. Marth is a low tier, but he has a candle of potential lol, you can't deny the fact that Marth is not completely useless, but then again, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 10:16, August 10, 2015</small>
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The problem is that these opinions about Marth, including yours, are based on a faulty understanding of the game. You also have questionable sources of information. Seriously, Marth was considered amazing in early Melee, even when everyone was a scrub. Azen, the first good player, beat literally everyone via forward smash reads. Like I said, when you come up with an argument for Marth that has the logical soundness of mine, then I'll listen. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 11:41, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The problem is that these opinions about Marth, including yours, are based on a faulty understanding of the game. You also have questionable sources of information. Seriously, Marth was considered amazing in early Melee, even when everyone was a scrub. Azen, the first good player, beat literally everyone via forward smash reads. Like I said, when you come up with an argument for Marth that has the logical soundness of mine, then I'll listen. --<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 11:41, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
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<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 2:13, August 10, 2015</small>
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== To Brian and Miles ==
== To Brian and Miles ==
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<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 4:25, August 10, 2015</small>
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Haha. Say this to me again when you reach the same level of understanding I have about the game.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:38, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
Haha. Say this to me again when you reach the same level of understanding I have about the game.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:38, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
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I'm not going to say you were not wrong about the fact that Marth is arguably the most severely nerfed character in the game. However, you go as far as to say Marth has no strengths and is completely useless.
I'm not going to say you were not wrong about the fact that Marth is arguably the most severely nerfed character in the game. However, you go as far as to say Marth has no strengths and is completely useless.


<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 4:44, August 10, 2015</small>
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The gimmicks you perceive as strengths mean nothing to me. Whatever attractive features left in his kit are too few and far between to do anything significant. He's nothing but a scrub slayer now.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:52, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
The gimmicks you perceive as strengths mean nothing to me. Whatever attractive features left in his kit are too few and far between to do anything significant. He's nothing but a scrub slayer now.--[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 16:52, 10 August 2015 (EDT)


We'll see. I'm not counting on it. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:45.37.25.25|45.37.25.25]] ([[User talk:45.37.25.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25|contribs]]) 5:00, August 10, 2015</small>
We'll see. I'm not counting on it. {{unsigned|45.37.25.25|5:00, August 10, 2015}}


I would agree with Brian on this one. Unless if Marth gets an extreme buff in his neutral and punish game in a patch, I see him nowhere as viable compared to Melee and <s>Brawl</s>; although that being said, I wouldn't say he's complete shit like Lucina is. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Medic 17:01, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
I would agree with Brian on this one. Unless if Marth gets an extreme buff in his neutral and punish game in a patch, I see him nowhere as viable compared to Melee and <s>Brawl</s>; although that being said, I wouldn't say he's complete shit like Lucina is. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Medic 17:01, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
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:Not only Marth needs buffs in his neutral and punish game, he also needs to have an improved throw follow ups and combo ability (like linking forward aerial to each other efficiently, have forward aerial strings, and less base and growth of its knockback on his throws, so he can follow up better and have better KO setups). Only true follow ups so far I found is his forward throw to Crescent Slash (custom move), although I see some top players are against custom moves for competitive play after EVO. Otherwise, I don't see how viable he will be and is not gonna be too bright. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 17:29, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
:Not only Marth needs buffs in his neutral and punish game, he also needs to have an improved throw follow ups and combo ability (like linking forward aerial to each other efficiently, have forward aerial strings, and less base and growth of its knockback on his throws, so he can follow up better and have better KO setups). Only true follow ups so far I found is his forward throw to Crescent Slash (custom move), although I see some top players are against custom moves for competitive play after EVO. Otherwise, I don't see how viable he will be and is not gonna be too bright. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 17:29, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
== Taking away facts. ==
I've seen you confronted with changes to characters, notably changes to Marth and Fox, but tell whomever confronted you with them to not list them because they are insignificant, such as maybe a very slightly faster dash speed. You do realize we list all changes we find, right? There is no "leaving out insignificant facts". [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 08:40, 18 August 2015 (EDT)
:Who said that? Toomai? If so, ok. If Miles, he doesn't actually know anything about this game. I'd honestly wouldn't take his suggestions seriously.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 23:47, 20 August 2015 (EDT)
::I believe it's more of a general consensus. Also, [[SW:YAV]]. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: LawnGreen">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 06:26, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
::I don't quite recall who you said it to or what it was..
::Also, you need to stop personally attacking people in edit summaries. I get that they don't know too much about the game and you are frustrated with them, but there's no reason to have an edit summary like those. Not to mention how much you ignore people who try and tell you this,
::On that topic, I seriously laughed at your previous section with OT. He tried to point out your flawed logic in saying he is "uninformed" and you get your facts from "objective sources" when you were adamant to the end that one of the Top 5 non-tethers was "horrible", which if you listened to the entire sentence, would've stopped you dead in your tracks and think about your bias against all versions of Marth. But instead, you went and took offense to the first thing he said because you just HAD to prove the guy wrong, didn't you?
::TL;DR 1) I don't know much about what you said to who or what it was. 2) I look up to you, but you're being a malicious hypocrite. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 09:15, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
::One more thing, if Shield Breaker does not break your shield, it is actually not always (if ever) a free punish. The universal decrease in traction (and still no wavedashing) makes it so characters get pushed back a lot if attacks hit their shield. The only characters that actually stand a chance to punish Shield Breaker if it doen't break a shield are Little Mac and Rosalina. No, other characters with high traction will not punish because they are too slow or their attacks are too laggy (if not both). So, think about the mechanics of Smash 4 before you say something.
::Also, if you hate "Trash" 4, why do you bother attacking its players? [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 09:26, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
:::Well that's if it's not powershielded. You don't slide if an attack is powershielded. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 10:19, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
:::@SK
:::1) You have 1-2 frames to powershield. You won't do that under normal circumstances unless you outright expect SB to come out.
:::2) doPon't makes no sense. Explain please, [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 10:39, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
I fail to see where I'm being hypocritical. I have never contradicted my arguments and made sure mine lack logical fallacies. My opinions of Marth are well founded in frame data research and a good deal of experience. Who are you to say all of that is flawed? You make statements based on nothing. Have you even seem the frame disadvantage of neutral B? It hits on frames 19 and 20 and then you are actionable on frame 50. That means if it doesn't break your shield or misses, you have to eat 30 frames of recovery where you can't move. 30 frames is a ton of time for your opponent to do whatever they want. Even if they shield the move, it only does 6ish frames of shield stun and I believe it takes 4 frames to release the shield in Smash 4 (someone verify this for me). 20 frames is also a ton of time to do whatever you want. You most certainly can punish a missed neutral B. If you can't, you probably suck and your reaction time is too slow.
Also both of you are wrong. The window for powershielding a physical attack is 4 frames (the first 2 frames reflect projectiles in Melee). --[[Special:Contributions/64.2.3.194|64.2.3.194]] 15:58, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
:Yea, my reaction time is even worse than OT's, but try punishing it with someone like Yoshi or Charizard. And, you said that Brawl Marth's grab range is abysmal, :but it remained of of the Top 5 longest non-tethers.
:BTW I actually am an ok player. You can play me if you want. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 16:29, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
:Ganonmew: If you think that no other characters with high traction will not punish, you are wrong. Low traction characters have hard time punish out of shield. Look at Luigi, if you use attack and hit Luigi's shield, he will slide back further and he will have hard time to punish, unless he powersheids. Some characters have good out of shield options. Don't think about hitting his Shield Breaker against great Zero Suit Samus player either. She has the best punisher in the game. Make random or even tiny mistakes, you will get hit harder with her moves and get KO'd earlier (for instance you use that move and it was shielded (not broken) or powershielded and you are at 20% and ZSS is at 80%, you will get down thrown, uair, uair, up B and get KOd), if she does it right. If she has rage, you will get KO'd earlier as well. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 16:54, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
::I thought ZSS has low traction. The reason I said that Shield Breaker is hard to punish is because only characters with high traction can punish things like that (unless you're Sheik or Samus, who can simply roll to punish despite their low traction), only the characters with high traction are ultimately too slow, laggy, weak, or all of the above, to punish well.
Also, 4 frames. That is shorter than the startup of Falco's pre-Smash 4 dair. I wish you good luck on powershielding on a consistent basis when you are not Mew2King. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 19:41, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
Powershielding is very well humanly possible to perform consistently. 4 frames is actually a very lenient timing. Powershielding is not purely reactive; it also involves seeing how your opponent's position telegraphs their moves. Also if you suck at powershielding, you can also reactively spot dodge. --[[Special:Contributions/128.237.189.112|128.237.189.112]] 07:58, 29 August 2015 (EDT)
== I'd like to bring your attention... ==
...to [[SW:AN#Other policy breaking|this]]. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 21:46, 21 August 2015 (EDT)
:Weird how he hasn't noticed. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 18:47, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
::More likely he's ignoring us. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  18:52, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
:::Most likely. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 19:22, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
You guys really have no fuckin idea why he is ignoring you guys. In the past, he told me in [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Marth_(SSB4)&diff=prev&oldid=711788 edit summary] saying it's not worth discussing with Miles who can't properly define subjective. This is because of different views about subjective. If it is not worth discussing with Miles, then it is not worth talking to you guys about his problems. To my conclusion, this indicates that you guy have a problem with him, not Brian. If he is ignoring you guys about that shit, so what? Are you going to continue that way? Hell no. Unless you are talking about something specific, you're wasting your time. If you have nothing else to say, then stop doing this. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 19:47, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
Also guys. Note how he is using an IP to edit recently just to avoid getting notified by the shit that we send him. If you guys are going to continue annoying him, he might as well even ask for his user account to be deleted just like PSIWolf did. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Non-stick 21:41, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
@Luigi540 and Dots: We can't just let him go free to violate [[SW:NPA]]. Unless he shows signs of ceasing, we don't need to stop. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 12:23, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
:Actually, I'm with Luigi540 and Dots here. If he doesn't give a shit, then that's his problem. Forcing him to take care of it is only gonna make it worse. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:13, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
== Archiving ==
I'm not going to get on your case or anything but since your talk page is again 75 KB big, you might want to consider [[SW:TALK#Archiving|archiving]] again. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Medic 21:53, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
== Can't believe I'm saying this but.... ==
I apologize for the way I've been acting towards you in the past (I am [[Special:Contributions/45.37.25.25]]). Not only have I been criticizing you for the wrong reasons, I have been criticizing you way too much. I still feel like you should keep your cool (and you've been quite non-inflammatory for a while), but I realize I am also at fault. Please forgive me. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 14:55, 20 September 2015 (EDT)
== Why do you do this shit ==
Will you please stop offending me on the Discord server, please? It's not cool, and I don't appreciate you behaving like that torwards me. Okay? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: yellow;">'''the Easter Bunny Warrior'''</span>]] 03:23, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
You also need to archive your talk page. It has over 80,000 bytes! I'm surprised someone didn't notice already. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: yellow;">'''the Easter Bunny Warrior'''</span>]] 03:25, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
Actually, scratch that. Someone did notify you, so you need to do it. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: yellow;">'''the Easter Bunny Warrior'''</span>]] 03:26, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

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