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*'''Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points'''. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
*'''Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points'''. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
*'''Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points'''. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.
*'''Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points'''. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.
*'''Incomplete Roster - Minus 1 point'''. If the first character is confirmed for Sma5h and you have not completed your roster (and it contains things like "Gen 7/8 Pokemon", "New Series Characters", or "WIP"), you will automatically lose 1 point. Any vague predictions ("Gen 7/8 Pokemon", "New Series Character") have no deductions, but you will get a Missing Prediction deduction if your roster was not finished.


When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.
When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.
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I'm leaving this incomplete ''just'' for a little bit, okay? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 10:55, 4 November 2014 (EST)
I'm leaving this incomplete ''just'' for a little bit, okay? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 10:55, 4 November 2014 (EST)
===Aidanzapunk's Predictions===
Alright, here goes nothing.
====Cut Characters====
*'''Dark Pit''': Let's face it, no one really likes him.
*'''Bowser Jr.''': Eh...I dunno, there's just...[[Snake's Smash Taunt#Sonic|something about him that I...just don't like...]]
*'''Wii Fit Trainer''': This one was an out-of-left-field pick.
*'''Villager''': Same as above.
====Newcomers====
*'''Professor Layton''': This guy needs to be in. You could do so much with him. And he's had a lot of history with Nintendo.
*'''Shadow the Hedgehog''': For the record, he would NOT be a Sonic clone.
*'''Krystal''': She wouldn't be a Fox clone. ...Maybe a Palutena one. I dunno.
*'''Inkling''': Because why the hell not.
====Previously Cut Veterans====
*'''Lucas''': I do miss the poor guy...
*'''Ice Climbers''': If there's anyone I miss more than Lucas, it's them.
*'''Snake''': I swear, if he doesn't come back as DLC, then he should come back in Smash 5.
*'''Wolf''': Honestly, he's less of a clone of Fox than Luigi is of Mario. Sure, he can go fuck himself, but still.
Dunno about stages.
-[[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 11:16, 18 November 2014 (EST)


===TheMasterHand's Probable Prediction===
===TheMasterHand's Probable Prediction===
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====Yoshi====
====Yoshi====
*Yoshi/Birdo
*Yoshi/Birdo
===Nackles42's Prediction===
[[File:Nackles42_SSB5_Prediction.jpeg]]
A little explaining:
*Added 3 Paper Mario Characters because of new Paper Mario game
*Added Mona and Kat and Ana
*Added Kamek
*Added Toon Zelda (who transforms to Toon Sheik mid-battle)
*Added Ridley
*Added Knuckle Joe, Waddle Dee and Blade Knight
*Added Krystal
*Added Abomasnow, Sableye, Meloetta and Kalos Trainer with Greninja, Braixen and Chespin
*Added Chrom
*Added Tails, Knuckles and Shadow
*(not in roster) Added Minecraft Steve)
*Added Rayman, Inkling, Lolo/Lala, Proto Man and Maxwell
*Brought back Mewtwo, Lucas, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Roy, Snake
*Cut Little Mac, Charizard, Duck Hunt, WiiFit Trainer, Shulk, Mii, Ryu
*Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina have been demoted to alts for Mario, Pit and Marth.
*Also, as a side note, The Scribblenauts Icon was made myself and the Gyromite Icon was changed to say "retro"
To the guy below me:
I cut the characters I cut because they were not played enough or were too unpopular.


===LittleMacmain97's completely stupid and probably insane prediction===
===LittleMacmain97's completely stupid and probably insane prediction===
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===<big>''BeepYou's roster predictions''</big>===
I'm doing this for fun, it's just the roster I would want in the next game, not trying to really predict and win.


<small>''KEEP IN MIND CUSTOMS ARE REMOVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MIIS''</small>
===QuintonShark8713's Roster===


====Returning veterans====
====Mario====
====={{uv|Mario}}=====
*Mario
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mario'''
*Luigi
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dr. Mario''': Unlockable.
*Peach
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Luigi''': Unlockable.
*Bowser
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Peach'''
*Dr. Mario*
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bowser''': More texture on his skin and scales, but otherwise still cartoonish.
*Rosalina & Luma*
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bowser Jr.''': Unlockable.
*Bowser Jr.*
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rosalina & Luma''': Heavily nerfed so that she is much harder to use, but not enough so that she is still viable.
*Toad
*Daisy*


====={{uv|Yoshi}}=====
====Donkey Kong====
*[[File:YoshiSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Yoshi'''
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool*


====={{uv|Wario}}=====
====The Legend Of Zelda====
*[[File:WarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wario'''
*Link
*Zelda
*Shiek
*Impa
*Ganondorf*
*Toon Link* or Linkle*


====={{uv|Donkey Kong}}=====
====Metroid====
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Donkey Kong'''
*Samus
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Diddy Kong''': Immensely nerfed.
*Zero Suit Samus
*Ridley*


====={{uv|Game & Watch}}=====
====Mario Spin-Offs====
*[[File:Game&WatchSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mr. Game & Watch''': Unlockable.
*Yoshi
*Wario


====={{uv|Punch-Out!!}}=====
====Kirby====
*[[File:PunchOutSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Little Mac'''
*Kirby
*King Dedede
*Meta Knight*
*Bandana Dee


====={{uv|Metroid}}=====
====Star Fox====
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Samus'''
*Fox
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zero Suit Samus''': Less stern expression in her Screen KO.
*Falco
*Wolf*


====={{uv|F-Zero}}=====
====Pokemon====
*[[File:FZeroSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Captain Falcon'''
*Pikachu
*Charizard
*Greninja
*A Gen 7/8 Grass Starter
*Pichu*
*Lucario*
*Mewtwo*
*Jigglypuff*


====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
====Earthbound====
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Link''': Using his ''Hyrule Warriors'' design.
*Ness
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Toon Link''': Unlockable.
*Lucas*
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zelda'''
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sheik''': Using her ''Hyrule Warriors'' design. Nerfed.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ganondorf''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
====F-Zero====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pit'''
*Captain Falcon
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dark Pit''': Unlockable.
*Black Shadow*


====={{uv|Fire Emblem}}=====
====Fire Emblem====
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Marth'''
*Marth
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucina''': Unlockable.
*Ike
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Roy''': Unlockable.
*Robin
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ike'''
*Corrin
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Robin'''
*Roy*
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Corrin'''


====={{uv|Duck Hunt}}=====
====Kid Icarus====
*[[File:DuckHuntSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Duck Hunt''': Unlockable.
*Pit
*Palutena*


====={{uv|Kirby}}=====
====Animal Crossing====
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Kirby'''
*Villager
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''King Dedede'''
*Isabelle
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Meta Knight''': Using his ''Kirby: Right Back At Ya!'' design


====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
====Xenoblade Chronicles====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Fox'''
*Shulk
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Falco''': Unlockable.
*Elma


====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
====Misc.====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pikachu'''
*Ice Climbers
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Jigglypuff''': Unlockable.
*Mr. Game & Watch*
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucario'''
*Olimar
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Charizard'''
*R.O.B.*
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Greninja'''
*Wii Fit Trainer
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mewtwo''': Unlockable. And heavily buffed.
*Little Mac
*Duck Hunt*
*Inkling
*Issac
*Chibi-Robo
*Wonder Red
*Dillion*
*Takamaru*


====={{uv|R.O.B.}}=====
====3rd Party====
*[[File:ROBSymbol.svg|20px]] '''R.O.B.''': Unlockable.
*Pac-Man
*Mega Man
*Sonic
*Rayman
*Snake* or Bomberman*
*Cloud*
*Bayonetta*


====={{uv|EarthBound}}=====
*[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ness'''
*[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucas'''


====={{uv|Animal Crossing}}=====
*[[File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Villager'''


====={{uv|Pikmin}}=====
*[[File:PikminSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Alph''': Olimar gets cut but Alph is his own character now.


====={{uv|Wii Fit}}=====
===<big>''BeepYou's roster predictions''</big>===
*[[File:WiiFitSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wii Fit Trainer'''
I'm doing this for fun, it's just the roster I would want in the next game, not trying to really predict and win.


====={{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}}=====
<small>''KEEP IN MIND CUSTOMS ARE REMOVED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MIIS''</small>
*[[File:XenobladeSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Shulk''': More lively and smiling in his taunts (except down taunt) and victory poses. Unlockable.


====={{uv|Sonic}}=====
====Returning veterans====
*[[File:SonicSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sonic''': Unlockable.
====={{uv|Mario}}=====
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mario'''
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dr. Mario''': Unlockable.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Luigi''': Unlockable.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Peach'''
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bowser''': More texture on his skin and scales, but otherwise still cartoonish.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bowser Jr.''': Unlockable.
*[[File:MarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rosalina & Luma''': Heavily nerfed so that she is much harder to use, but not enough so that she is still viable.


====={{uv|Mega Man}}=====
====={{uv|Yoshi}}=====
*[[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mega Man''': He has some voice clips from ''Mega Man: Powered Up'' and is voiced by the same VA, Cole Howard. Blast KO sound changed to the "life lost" sound from Mega Man 3 onward.
*[[File:YoshiSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Yoshi'''


====={{uv|Street Fighter}}=====
====={{uv|Wario}}=====
*[[File:StreetFighterSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ryu''': He now smiles lightly in his "Your range is one fist short" victory pose.
*[[File:WarioSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wario'''


====={{uv|Pac-Man}}=====
====={{uv|Donkey Kong}}=====
*[[File:PacManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pac-Man''': Using his ''Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures'' design (sorry [[Masahiro Sakurai|Massive Hero Soccer Guy]]). His Star KO sound is now the "life lost" sound from the original ''Pac-Man'' (which only appears in StreetSmash). Still no voice.
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Donkey Kong'''
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Diddy Kong''': Immensely nerfed.


====={{uv|Final Fantasy}}=====
====={{uv|Game & Watch}}=====
*[[File:FinalFantasySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Cloud''': Unlockable.
*[[File:Game&WatchSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mr. Game & Watch''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Bayonetta}}=====
====={{uv|Punch-Out!!}}=====
*[[File:BayonettaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bayonetta''': It depends: if she is way too OP in ''SSB4'', then she gets nerfed depending on the OP level.
*[[File:PunchOutSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Little Mac'''


=====''Special characters''=====
====={{uv|Metroid}}=====
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Brawler'''
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Samus'''
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Swordfighter'''
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zero Suit Samus''': Less stern expression in her Screen KO.
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Gunner'''


====={{uv|F-Zero}}=====
*[[File:FZeroSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Captain Falcon'''


====Previously cut veterans====
====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Link''': Using his ''Hyrule Warriors'' design.
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wolf''': Because [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]]. Unlockable.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Toon Link''': Unlockable.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zelda'''
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sheik''': Using her ''Hyrule Warriors'' design. Nerfed.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ganondorf''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pichu''': Heavily buffed tho. Still recoil damage but less than before, and more power than Pikachu. Unlockable.
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pit'''
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dark Pit''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Ice Climber}}=====
====={{uv|Fire Emblem}}=====
*[[File:IceClimbersSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ice Climbers'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Marth'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucina''': Unlockable.
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Roy''': Unlockable.
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ike'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Robin'''
*[[File:FireEmblemSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Corrin'''


====={{uv|Metal Gear}}=====
====={{uv|Duck Hunt}}=====
*[[File:MetalGearSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Snake''': Unlockable.
*[[File:DuckHuntSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Duck Hunt''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Kirby}}=====
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Kirby'''
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''King Dedede'''
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Meta Knight''': Using his ''Kirby: Right Back At Ya!'' design


====Newcomers====
====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
====={{uv|Donkey Kong}}=====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Fox'''
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dixie Kong''': Semi-clone of Diddy but she doesn't have the [[Banana Peel]] as her down special, it gets replaced by a different move that I'm too lazy to think of. Weaker than Diddy, but faster mobility. Almost the same frame data. Unlockable.
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Falco''': Unlockable.
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''King K. Rool''': Yep.


====={{uv|Metroid}}=====
====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ridley''': Shrunken down, semi-clone of Charizard as it can jump three times, fly and glide, and has some attacks taken from him. However, it is almost as heavy as DK. Poor frame data to compensate, though only to the extent of Charizard. Slightly less damaging attacks and some of them are different so it can be considered a semi-clone.
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pikachu'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Jigglypuff''': Unlockable.
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucario'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Charizard'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Greninja'''
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mewtwo''': Unlockable. And heavily buffed.


====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
====={{uv|R.O.B.}}=====
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ghirahim'''
*[[File:ROBSymbol.svg|20px]] '''R.O.B.''': Unlockable.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ruto'''


====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
====={{uv|EarthBound}}=====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Viridi''': A deity made it into Smash Bros. Now a smaller deity does as well, but with faster moves (different ones that don't make her a clone of Palutena). Unlockable.
*[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ness'''
*[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Lucas'''


====={{uv|Kirby}}=====
====={{uv|Animal Crossing}}=====
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bandanda Waddle Dee'''
*[[File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Villager'''
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Prince Fluff''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
====={{uv|Pikmin}}=====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Krystal''': Moveset inspired from {{SSB4|Palutena}} in some regards, but faster in all aspects.
*[[File:PikminSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Alph''': Olimar gets cut but Alph is his own character now.
 
====={{uv|Wii Fit}}=====
*[[File:WiiFitSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wii Fit Trainer'''


====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
====={{uv|Xenoblade}}=====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Igglybuff''': Maybe I lost my mind, but I want a more mobile but frailer and slightly weaker clone of Jiggs. Unlockable.
*[[File:XenobladeSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Shulk''': More lively and smiling in his taunts (except down taunt) and victory poses. Unlockable.
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sceptile''': He deserves to be in if we're not getting Ivysaur. Unlockable.


====={{uv|Sonic}}=====
====={{uv|Sonic}}=====
*[[File:SonicSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Tails''': Unlockable. Why not? :]
*[[File:SonicSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sonic''': Unlockable.


====={{uv|Mega Man}}=====
====={{uv|Mega Man}}=====
*[[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Proto Man''': Unlockable. Voiced by his ''Mega Man: Powered Up'' VA, Jonathan Love. A frailer but more mobile semi-clone of Mega Man that uses his mechanics from Mega Man 9 and 10, with some different attcks:
*[[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mega Man''': He has some voice clips from ''Mega Man: Powered Up'' and is voiced by the same VA, Cole Howard. Blast KO sound changed to the "life lost" sound from Mega Man 3 onward.
**Neutral attack/Forward tilt/Neutral aerial: Proto Buster - Only fires twice instead of once, slightly longer range.
**Up tilt: Same as Mii Gunner
**Down tilt: Charge Kick - More powerful but laggier.
**Up smash: Laser Trident
**Down smash: Chill Spike - [[Freezing|Ice]] effect instead of [[flame]], faster with slightly less power.
**Forward aerial: Triple Blade - Slashes three times instead of once, [[electric]] effect instead of flame, sword glows green (like [[Zero (Mega Man)|Zero]]'s Z-Saber) then fades to purple after attacking (like the original Triple Blade). More similar to Meta Knight's forward aerial.
**Up aerial: Tornado Blow - Three tornadoes instead of one, giving it more horizontal range, but it has less vertical range and as a result inflicts less damage with knockback compensated.
**Grab aerial/Grab: Thunder Claw - Similar to Samus' Grapple Beam.
**Neutral special: Shadow Blade - Due to the game having no customs, Proto Man receives Mega Man's custom move as a special of his own.
**Side special: Ice Slasher - Same as neutral special.
**Up special: Tornado Hold - Same as previous specials.
**Down special: Jewel Sattelite - Same function as Skull Barrier but with a x1.4 multiplier and inflicts 2% damage for each jewel, like Mega Man's Leaf Shield.
**Final Smash: Proto Zero Attack - He teams up with Zero and they attack the opponent. Similar startup as [[Pair Up]], similar cutscene as [[Chain Attack]].


=====''Battletoads''=====
====={{uv|Street Fighter}}=====
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rash''': Doesn't have a voice, but his Star KO sound is that of a low-pitched croak.
*[[File:StreetFighterSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ryu''': He now smiles lightly in his "Your range is one fist short" victory pose.


=====''Rayman''=====
====={{uv|Pac-Man}}=====
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rayman''': Unlockable.
*[[File:PacManSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pac-Man''': Using his ''Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures'' design (sorry [[Masahiro Sakurai|Massive Hero Soccer Guy]]). His Star KO sound is now the "life lost" sound from the original ''Pac-Man'' (which only appears in StreetSmash). Still no voice.


====={{uv|Final Fantasy}}=====
*[[File:FinalFantasySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Cloud''': Unlockable.


====DLC newcomers====
====={{uv|Bayonetta}}=====
====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
*[[File:BayonettaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bayonetta''': It depends: if she is way too OP in ''SSB4'', then she gets nerfed depending on the OP level.
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zant'''
 
=====''Kingdom Hearts''=====
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sora'''


=====''Special characters''=====
=====''Special characters''=====
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Wizard'''
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Brawler'''
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Swordfighter'''
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Gunner'''




====Cut characters that later return as DLC veterans====
====Previously cut veterans====
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Palutena''': Autoreticle and Reflect Barrier get replaced by Explosive Flame and Super Speed respectively. She gets catastrophically buffed in frame data, aerial mobility and damage, so her frame data is much more balanced (but not to Mario or Sheik levels), and her damage output is as high as {{SSB4|Luigi}}'s. She originally gets cut due to the game's abscence of custom moves for other characters that aren't Miis. (yep, just because of that reason). Originally only mentioned in her trophy.
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Wolf''': Because [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]]. Unlockable.


====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Pichu''': Heavily buffed tho. Still recoil damage but less than before, and more power than Pikachu. Unlockable.


I would put an image of a roster but the roster maker won't open for me. So that's it then. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black"> '''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 14:58, 19 December 2015 (EST)
====={{uv|Ice Climber}}=====
*[[File:IceClimbersSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ice Climbers'''


===Nintenzilla's Predictions===
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Basically, I predict the roster to look something like this,
*[[File:MetalGearSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Snake''': Unlockable.


http://i.imgur.com/g0Re0Z4.png


====Cut Characters====
====Newcomers====
====={{uv|Donkey Kong}}=====
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Dixie Kong''': Semi-clone of Diddy but she doesn't have the [[Banana Peel]] as her down special, it gets replaced by a different move that I'm too lazy to think of. Weaker than Diddy, but faster mobility. Almost the same frame data. Unlockable.
*[[File:DKSymbol.svg|20px]] '''King K. Rool''': Yep.


Due to their overall controversy, Dark Pit and Lucina are made into costumes, while Dr. Mario is kept for being the clone with the strongest following (Ironically).
====={{uv|Metroid}}=====
*[[File:MetroidSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ridley''': Shrunken down, semi-clone of Charizard as it can jump three times, fly and glide, and has some attacks taken from him. However, it is almost as heavy as DK. Poor frame data to compensate, though only to the extent of Charizard. Slightly less damaging attacks and some of them are different so it can be considered a semi-clone.


Feedback is also welcome.
====={{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}=====
[[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 13:38, 12 January 2016 (EST)
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ghirahim'''
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Ruto'''


===The Luigi Master's Predictions===
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
I might make a fancy chart or something at some point, but for now I'll just keep it simple
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Viridi''': A deity made it into Smash Bros. Now a smaller deity does as well, but with faster moves (different ones that don't make her a clone of Palutena). Unlockable.


====Veterans====
====={{uv|Kirby}}=====
All characters in SSB4, including the DLC characters, return, except for the following:
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Bandanda Waddle Dee'''
*Dr. Mario (Who is now an Alt Costume for Mario)
*[[File:KirbySymbol.svg|20px]] '''Prince Fluff''': Unlockable.
*Lucina (Who is now an Alt Costume for Marth)
*Dark Pit (Who is now an Alt Costume for Pit)
====Returning From Melee or Brawl====
The following characters have returned after being cut from Brawl
*Wolf (Who is heavier and stronger, and, other than his Blaster, has different specials)
*Ice Climbers (Who now appear as 2 characters but function as 1, kind of like Duck Hunt. They still hit separately, however, so you have to make sure to line them up correctly for massive damage)
*Snake (Who plays same, but his inclusion is dependent solely upon Konami's status as a company)
====Newcomers====
*Captain Toad (We need some kind of Toad character to finish the Big 4 from SSB2, and Captain Toad would be pretty unique: a small character that has difficulty jumping, but packs a huge punch)
*Waluigi (Actually, I think the fact that he's spin-off exclusive can work to his advantage: he could integrate different things from various Mario spin-offs to have a Villager-style, wacky, unorthodox moveset)
*King K. Rool (...meh, I don't really get the hype for this guy. I only added him on here because he's suddenly really popular)
*Impa (Pretty much the last major Zelda character not already in the game)
*Lana (She may have been in 1 spin-off title, but I think a true Mage-type character would be pretty sweet)
*Gardevoir (Probably the most popular Gen 3 Pokemon, and her Fairy typing could make for an interesting psychic/magic based moveset)
*(Some Pokemon from Gen 7 or 8. As for which one...well, we'll find out when they come)
*Ridley (Shrunk down, but still the largest character in the game. He would have amazing reach, power, movement, and air speed, but garbage frame data, and obviously a ridiculously large hitbox)
*Sylux (I don't know too much about this guy, but he's slated to have some kind of major role in a future Metroid game, so he could join in if he's a big enough deal)
*Viridi (We NEED a plant/grass-based character, and Viridi would be perfect for the role)
*(New Fire Emblem character. Like Pokemon, this is one we'll just have to wait and see for)
*Bandana Dee (Round out the Return to Dreamland quartet. He probably wouldn't be super unique moveset-wise, but still, no other character wields a spear)
*Elma (with Xenoblade Chronicles X seemingly being a huge hit, I don't think it's too much of a stretch)
*Balloon Fighter (A classic along the lines of Duck Hunt and R.O.B., he would be a pretty hilarious inclusion)
*Isaac (It's Golden Sun's time to shine! I think, like Corrin, he could use his sword for basic attacks, and use his earth-bending skills for his more powerful attacks)
*Sami (I think she best represents the universe, more so than Andy. Plus, if Snake is a no-go, she could just adopt his moveset to cover the loss)
*Marshal (despite being a pretty niche character, even for Smash standards, a Rhythm-based fighter could be pretty interesting)
*Inkling (Splatoon is a HUGE hit, plus their Ink gimmick could translate will into Smash: every move uses ink, and you refill by turning into a squid with Down B. A character that is strong, but has to keep periodically charging to stay that way, would pretty awesome)
And last but not least...
*Captain N (I know, he's technically a TV Show character, but he's still Nintendo, and I think he could do an amazing job representing the various Nintendo console/controllers/accessories over the years in his moves. Besides, R.O.B. is a toy and Mr. G&W isn't even really a character. It's not TOO farfetched.    ...OK, yeah, it's pretty farfetched, but a man can dream!)


====={{uv|Star Fox}}=====
*[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Krystal''': Moveset inspired from {{SSB4|Palutena}} in some regards, but faster in all aspects.


===[[User:BaconMaster331|BaconMaster331]]'s predictions===
====={{uv|Pokémon}}=====
This is essentially a hopeful guy's wishlist, isn't it?
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Igglybuff''': Maybe I lost my mind, but I want a more mobile but frailer and slightly weaker clone of Jiggs. Unlockable.
*[[File:PokemonSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sceptile''': He deserves to be in if we're not getting Ivysaur. Unlockable.
 
====={{uv|Sonic}}=====
*[[File:SonicSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Tails''': Unlockable. Why not? :]


By the by, characters in '''bold''' are most likely gonna be DLC.
====={{uv|Mega Man}}=====
====Veterans from SSB4====
*[[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|20px]]  '''Proto Man''': Unlockable. Voiced by his ''Mega Man: Powered Up'' VA, Jonathan Love. A frailer but more mobile semi-clone of Mega Man that uses his mechanics from Mega Man 9 and 10, with some different attcks:
*Mario
**Neutral attack/Forward tilt/Neutral aerial: Proto Buster - Only fires twice instead of once, slightly longer range.
*Luigi
**Up tilt: Same as Mii Gunner
*Peach
**Down tilt: Charge Kick - More powerful but laggier.
*Bowser
**Up smash: Laser Trident
*Rosalina and Luma
**Down smash: Chill Spike - [[Freezing|Ice]] effect instead of [[flame]], faster with slightly less power.
*Bowser Jr.
**Forward aerial: Triple Blade - Slashes three times instead of once, [[electric]] effect instead of flame, sword glows green (like [[Zero (Mega Man)|Zero]]'s Z-Saber) then fades to purple after attacking (like the original Triple Blade). More similar to Meta Knight's forward aerial.
*Yoshi
**Up aerial: Tornado Blow - Three tornadoes instead of one, giving it more horizontal range, but it has less vertical range and as a result inflicts less damage with knockback compensated.
*Donkey Kong
**Grab aerial/Grab: Thunder Claw - Similar to Samus' Grapple Beam.
*Diddy Kong
**Neutral special: Shadow Blade - Due to the game having no customs, Proto Man receives Mega Man's custom move as a special of his own.
*Link (a la Zelda Wii U)
**Side special: Ice Slasher - Same as neutral special.
*Zelda (a la Zelda Wii U)
**Up special: Tornado Hold - Same as previous specials.
*Sheik
**Down special: Jewel Sattelite - Same function as Skull Barrier but with a x1.4 multiplier and inflicts 2% damage for each jewel, like Mega Man's Leaf Shield.
*Ganondorf
**Final Smash: Proto Zero Attack - He teams up with Zero and they attack the opponent. Similar startup as [[Pair Up]], similar cutscene as [[Chain Attack]].
*Toon Link
 
*Samus
=====''Battletoads''=====
*Zero Suit Samus
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rash''': Doesn't have a voice, but his Star KO sound is that of a low-pitched croak.
*Kirby
 
*Meta Knight
=====''Rayman''=====
*King Dedede
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Rayman''': Unlockable.
*Fox
 
*Falco
 
*Pikachu
====DLC newcomers====
*Jigglypuff
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*Mewtwo
*[[File:ZeldaSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Zant'''
*Charizard
*Lucario
*'''Greninja'''
*Captain Falcon
*Ness
*'''Lucas'''
*Marth
*'''Roy'''
*Robin
*'''Lucina'''
*Corrin
*Ike
*Mr. Game and Watch
*Pit
*Palutena
*Wario
*Olimar
*R.O.B.
*Villager
*Little Mac
*Wii Fit Trainer
*Shulk
*Duck Hunt
*Mii Fighters
*Sonic
*Mega Man
*Pac-Man
*'''Ryu'''
*'''Cloud'''
*'''Bayonetta'''
====SSBB Veterans====
*'''Wolf'''
*Squirtle
*Ice Climber ([[Sopo]] all the way!)
====Newcomers====
Ah, yes, what we've all been waiting for...


Lesser-known characters get a link to their page.
=====''Kingdom Hearts''=====
*Paper Mario
*[[File:SpecialStagesSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Sora'''
*Waluigi (I don't want him, but I'm sure he's coming)
*Dixie Kong
*Zelda Rep (probably Ghirahim, Skull Kid or Deku Link)
*Bandana Dee
*Prince Fluff
*Gen 7/8 Pokemon (C'mon, we all know it's true...0
*[[Jeff]]
*Lyn (unless there's a new Fire Emblem!)
*Isaac
*[[Saki]]
*Inkling
*Takamaru
*Chibi-Robo
*Nester
*'''Bomberman'''
*'''[[Zero (Mega Man)|Zero]]'''
====Cut Characters====
*Dr. Mario (now an alt. for Mario)
*Dark Pit (for obvious reasons)
Well, that's all I've got for now (as of 1/16/16)


BaconMaster out!
=====''Special characters''=====
*[[File:SmashBrosSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Mii Wizard'''
 
 
====Cut characters that later return as DLC veterans====
====={{uv|Kid Icarus}}=====
*[[File:KidIcarusSymbol.svg|20px]] '''Palutena''': Autoreticle and Reflect Barrier get replaced by Explosive Flame and Super Speed respectively. She gets catastrophically buffed in frame data, aerial mobility and damage, so her frame data is much more balanced (but not to Mario or Sheik levels), and her damage output is as high as {{SSB4|Luigi}}'s. She originally gets cut due to the game's abscence of custom moves for other characters that aren't Miis. (yep, just because of that reason). Originally only mentioned in her trophy.


===Exploudit's Prediction===


[http://imgur.com/vQ7SdNO Click here for the roster chart]
I would put an image of a roster but the roster maker won't open for me. So that's it then. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black"> '''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''was here :v'''</font>]] 14:58, 19 December 2015 (EST)
Blue Outline - Veteran
Red Outline - Unlockable Veteran
Green Outline - Newcomer
Yellow Outline - Unlockable Newcomer


====Cuts from Smash 4====
===Nintenzilla's Predictions===
Basically, I predict the roster to look something like this,


*Wii Fit Trainer
http://i.imgur.com/g0Re0Z4.png
*Dr. Mario (now as a Mario alternate)
*Dark Pit (now as a Pit alternate)
*Lucina (now as a Marth alternate)


====Characters for Smash 5====
====Cut Characters====


*Mario
Due to their overall controversy, Dark Pit and Lucina are made into costumes, while Dr. Mario is kept for being the clone with the strongest following (Ironically).
*Luigi (Now faster than Mario but lighter, also jumps a little bit higher. Has a more Luigi's Mansion inspired moveset, raher tha beeing a Mario semi-clone)
*Peach (Slightly buffed from smash 4)
*Daisy (As a Peach Semi-Clone)
*Rosalina & Luma
*Yoshi
*Captain Toad (Unique in the sense that he has two movesets, one in which he is with his backpack, thus he is extremely heavy and can't jump and the other in wich he is very light and agile, without his backpack, but has trouble killing)
*Baby Mario & Baby Luigi (Both controlled by the player, when on of the bros. gets KOed it only respawns when the other dies, Unlike Brawl's Ice Climbers, tere is no "leader")
*Bowser (Slightly buffed)
*Bowser jr. (Significantly buffed)
*Kamek
*King Boo (Unique beacause of his moveset consisting of deploying Boos at the cost of his weight and size. Boos movement and attacks are commanded by King Boo, like how Rosalina controls Luma. He can reabsorb Boos but increasing his percentage as much as the percentage the Boo he absorbed had, Boos alone are extremely light (15 weight). King Boo's smash relies on Luigi's mansion's series ghosts. And are stronger if there are less Boos deployed. Whn boos are KOed they never respwn, rather, King Boo deos at his full weight. His Side Special deploys a Boo in his front and his Down Special recalls the Boo that is closer. His up special deals no damage and makes him vanish and reappear in the closest ledge, when reappears, he pushes opponents away but deals no damage. His neutral special triggers all Boos to attack by vanishing and reappiring near the opponent, acting as a KO move)
*Wario (Significanly buffed)
*Waluigi (With a brand new moveset Waluigi is a quick but light newcomer)
*Nabbit (Very fast but also really light. Fits the hit and run archetype)
*Donkey Kong (Signifanctly buffed)
*Diddy Kong
*Dixie Kong (Using her hair and guitar to attack, she provides an amazing recovery with her hair and an absurd ranged command grab)
*Cranky Kong (A DK semi-clone, is even slower but deals more damage. Has a better recovery using cannons and he throws barrels as a projectile that can break through reflectors, regardless of being slow)
*Funky Kong (Another DK semi-clone, using some different moves)
*King K. Rool (Slow and heavy, but still a threat)
*Fox
*Falco (Slighly buffed)
*Wolf (Returns as a veteran from Brawl and slighlty buffed)
*Krystal
*Kirby (Slightly buffed)
*King Dedede (Significantly buffed)
*Meta Knight
*Waddle Dee
*Little Mac
*Link (Slightly buffed)
*Toon Link (Now with a more unique moveset, rather than being a semi-clone of Link)
*Midna & Wolf Link (Both characters share a hurtbox, and are really fast)
*Ravio (Uses the items he sells to Link in his arsennal and controls Speerow the same way Rosalina controls Luma. Instead of having a regular shield, he merge into a painting and can stay there until a purple bar wears out, making him shield stunned. When rolling he walks from a painting to another, even though it is slow the move is very safe, when airdodging the also enters the painting)
*Zelda (Heavily buffed)
*Sheik (Slightly nerfed)
*Toon Zelda (She acts as a Zelda semi-clone, having little differences on her moveset)
*Tetra
*Ganondorf
*Toon Ganondorf (Ganondorf's semi-clone)
*Vaati
*Skull Kid
*Samus (Slightly buffed)
*Dark Samus (Has a very unique moveset, but is as slow as Samus)
*Zero Suit Samus (Slightly nerfed)
*Pit (Slightly buffed)
*Palutena (Significantly buffed)
*Viridi
*Marth
*Ike (Slightly buffed)
*Corrin (Slightly buffed)
*Robin (Slightly buffed)
*Roy
*Ness
*Lucas (Significantly buffed)
*Captain Falcon (Slightly buffed)
*Ice Climbers (veterans from Brawl, slightly nerfed, now working similarly to Baby Mario and Luigi, where both are controled by the player)
*Duck Hunt
*Mr. Game and Watch
*Excitebiker
*Pikachu
*Charizard (Heavily buffed)
*Greninja (Heavily nerfed... jk, he is buffed SIGNIFICANTLY)
*Sceptile
*Gardevoir
*Lucario
*Zoroark
*Plusle & Minun (work similarly to the baby bros., but one cannot recover without the other)
*Machamp
*Gengar
*Jigglypuff (Slightly buffed)
*Scizor
*Hawlucha
*Floette-Eternal
*Mewtwo (Heavily buffed)
*Villager (Can be customized like the Miis)
*Isabelle
*Olimar
*Chorus Kids (Share a hurtbox)
*Inkling (Can be customized like the Miis)
*R.O.B. (Significantly buffed)
*Sonic (SLightly nerfed)
*Mega Man
*Pac-Man
*Rayman
*Ryu
*Cloud
*Bayonetta (Significantly nerfed [Diddy style])
*Miis (Swordfighter and gunner are slightly buffed)
 
===Tadd's predictions===
 
Unlike most other rosters on here, I base my roster on probability. That is, is it likely they will get in? I am NOT basing this on my personal opinions, nor am i trying to cram as many characters as possible into the game.
 
Arranged by series. Newcomers in bold. Third party characters have their own section
 
====Mario Universe====
*Mario
*Luigi
*Peach
*Bowser
*Rosalina and Luma
*Bowser Jr.
*'''Paper Mario''' (I count him as part of the Mario series, deal with it)
 
====Yoshi Universe====
*Yoshi
*'''Kamek'''
 
====Wario Universe====
*Wario
*'''Waluigi'''
 
====Donkey Kong Universe====
*Donkey Kong
*Diddy Kong
*'''King K. Rool'''
 
====Zelda Universe====
*Link
*Zelda
*Sheik
*Ganondorf
*'''Tetra'''
 
====Pokemon Universe====
*Pikachu
*Jigglypuff
*Mewtwo
*Lucario
*Charizard
*Greninja
*'''Sceptile'''
 
====Metroid Universe====
*Samus
*Zero Suit Samus
 
====Star Fox Universe====
*Fox
*Falco
*'''Krystal'''
 
====Kirby Universe====
*Kirby
*King DeDeDe
*Meta Knight
*'''Waddle Dee''' (bandana)
 
====F-Zero Universe====
*Captain Falcon
 
====Mother Universe====
*Ness
*Lucas
*'''Porky/Pokey'''
 
====Fire Emblem Universe====
*Marth
*Roy
*Ike
*Robin
*Corrin
 
====Ice Climber Universe====
*Ice Climbers
 
====Game and Watch Universe====
*Mr. Game & Watch
 
====Pikmin Universe====
*Olimar
 
====Kid Icarus Universe====
*Pit
*Palutena
 
====R.O.B. Universe====
*R.O.B.
 
====Animal Crossing Universe====
*Villager
 
====Punch-Out!! Universe====
*Little Mac
 
====Wii Fit Universe====
*Wii Fit Trainer
 
====Duck Hunt Universe====
*Duck Hunt
 
====Xenoblade Universe====
*Shulk
 
====Splatoon Universe====
*'''Inkling'''
 
====Golden Sun Universe====
*'''Isaac'''
 
====Rhythm Heaven Universe====
*'''Chorus Kids'''
 
====Chibi Robo Series====
*'''Chibi Robo'''
 
====Third Party Characters====
*Sonic
*'''Knuckles'''
*Mega Man
*Pac-Man
*Ryu
*Cloud
*Bayonetta
*'''Banjo and Kazooie'''
*'''Ray Man'''
*'''Bomberman'''
*'''Shovel Knight'''
*'''Scorpion'''
 
====Mii Fighters====
*Mii Swordsman
*Mii Brawler
*Mii Gunner
*'''Mii Mage'''
*'''Mii Athlete'''
 
====Additional Information/speculation====
Given the developers have more time, I feel Toon Link and Dr. Mario will be the first to be added, followed by new clones or semi-clones, such as '''Daisy'''. Given the developers have less time, I feel Roy will be first to be cut, followed by Lucas.
 
If they do have DLC and Roy and Lucas were cut, they will be the first veterans with a shot, followed by Wolf, Squirtle and Ivysaur. Newcomers for DLC are most likely to be 3rd party that couldn't be added through normal means, as with Smash 4 DLC
 
It is possible that Sheik's moveset will instead go to '''Impa''' in favor of series relevance, though with Sheik being a fan favorite, it's not likely.
 
Palutena may be cut due to a variety of factors, some of which include lack of games in the series, lack of popularity, and whether or not they keep custom moves. For the most part, I kept her due to being a unique moveset
 
It is possible that a new '''Fire Emblem lord''' may be added in favor of Robin and/or Corrin, but it's hard to predict at this point in time
 
In addition, I leave one newcomer off the list. This is most likely a retro/wtf character, but as Sakurai is a man that is anything but predictable, there is no way to pinpoint it exactly. Possibilities include:
*'''Exitebiker'''
*'''Takamaru'''
*'''Reckless Wiimote guy'''
*'''Jibanyan'''
*'''Ray MKIII'''
*'''Lana''' (HW)
*An indie third-party character, such as '''Frisk''' or '''Shantae'''
*A character created specifically for this series. As an example, I am using '''Master Hand Jr.'''
(I am not saying all of these characters may get in, probably only one)
 
This will bring my total character count from between 72 and 80 characters in the base game (counting all mii fighters separately).  With that, I bid you good day, sirs.
 
-Tadd (added Feb 23, 2016)
 
 
====Saki's predictions====
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!Series
!Past Entries
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|[[Mario]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Luigi]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Peach]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Bowser]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Bowser Jr.]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Rosalina]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Dr. Mario]]
|{{uv|Mario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Yoshi]]
|{{uv|Yoshi}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Wario]]
|{{uv|Wario}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Donkey Kong]]
|{{uv|Donkey Kong}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Diddy Kong]]
|{{uv|Donkey Kong}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[King K. Rool]]
|{{uv|Donkey Kong}}
|-
|[[Mr. Game & Watch]]
|{{uv|Game & Watch}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Little Mac]]
|{{uv|Punch-Out!!}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Link]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Zelda/Sheik]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Ganondorf]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Toon Link]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Young Link]]
|{{uv|Zelda}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}
|-
|[[Samus]]
|{{uv|Metroid}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Zero Suit Samus]]
|{{uv|Metroid}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Pit]]
|{{uv|Kid Icarus}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Palutena]]
|{{uv|Kid Icarus}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Dark Pit]]
|{{uv|Kid Icarus}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Marth]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Ike]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Roy]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Robin]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Corrin]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Anna]]
|{{uv|Fire Emblem}}
|-
|[[Duck Hunt]]
|{{uv|Duck Hunt}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Kirby]]
|{{uv|Kirby}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Meta Knight]]
|{{uv|Kirby}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[King Dedede]]
|{{uv|Kirby}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Fox]]
|{{uv|Star Fox}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Falco]]
|{{uv|Star Fox}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Wolf]]
|{{uv|Star Fox}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}
|-
|[[Pikachu]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSB}}{{GameIcon|SSBM}}{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Charizard]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
|{{GameIcon|SSBB}}{{GameIcon|SSB4}}
|-
|[[Lucario]]
|{{uv|Pokémon}}
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|[[Ness]]
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|[[Lucas]]
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====Reasoning====
So why did I cut Lucina? Unlike every other clone, she is a clone of a clone (minus Wolf and Young Link, but I'd revamp them and Dark Pit) and we already have representation of her game in Robin. I put in K.rool due to fan support, Isaac due to the same and my support, Saki because he's supposedly popular in Japan and he's been my #1 wish since Brawl, Ricky because he can be the joke character, Alexandra because she'd be unique I guess? I don't know, I'd like to see it though. Takamaru because he was supposed to be in Smash 4, Inklings because Splatoon is popular, Spring Man to support ARMS and he's the face of it, Kazuya because Namco needs a second rep and Street Fighter X Tekken 2 would be cool (assuming Tekken X Street Fighter doesn't release before this), Crash because he's a popular platforming icon and was on Nintendo post original trilogy, Travis because he's getting a new Switch game and Ubisoft needs a rep and a wrestler with a beam katana is cool, Shovel Knight because he's the most popular indie choice with his own Amiibo, and the 2 Mii types because they are popular ideas. Anna because Fire Emblem doesn't need a character except the one who's been there since Gaiden. Anna is DLC.
 
 
====Nyargle's prediction====
[[File:NyargleblarglePrediction.png]]
 
Why not? If TNO decides it's too late, I'll take the minus one.
 
The Pokemon is Decidueye, the Fire Emblem character is '''specifically''' the main protagonist of Fire Emblem Switch (if this isn't specific enough, I'll swap it out), and the newcomer is Face Raider. Have a few notes:
 
*Bowser Jr. has circumstances close enough to characters like Mewtwo post-Melee and Wolf for me to consider him an unsafe bet.
*Corrin will no longer have the appeal of being the newest FE lord.
*Face Raider is actually among the most likely newcomers IMO because it's the most Sakurai pick possible (totally random but actually makes some sense given the game's proliferation; think Wii Fit Trainer). Plus, I came up with a moveset on my Smash 5 ideas page, so devs paid to do it could come up with one, too.
*Minecraft has the sales, is as iconic a series as Mega Man and maybe even Sonic at this point, represents the historic indie movement, and has Nintendo editions that are popular in Japan.
*Crash had a game on the GameCube, so a Nintendo release was never a hurdle.
*Sylux apparently has more importance now, avoids the "three Samuses" issue, and isn't too big according to Sakurai. The ideal Metroid rep.
*Isabelle is everywhere and unarguably the most popular Animal Crossing character now.
*The only retro candidate that might be surprising at this point to fans is a Famicom Fairytales character. I like these ones.
 
*If Inklings weren't added as DLC, Spring Man won't be playable in the base game.


Feedback is also welcome.
[[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 13:38, 12 January 2016 (EST)
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