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=My SSB4 Tier List=
=My SSB4 Tier List=


Unlike the past installments, I believe that nearly every character in the roster is viable. Even the E tier characters (to a small extent) can be used. However, there are still some characters that I would never recommend using in any match. Since this is a tier list, I can guarantee that people will have different opinions, so please be respectful! Also, the neglected Miis (my most wanted newcomer) will be included on the list too. Updated for the 1.1.6 patch. Customs are not taken into account.
Unlike the past installments, I believe that nearly every character in the roster is viable. Even the E tier characters (to a small extent) can be used. However, there are still some characters that I would never recommend using in any match. Since this is a tier list, I can guarantee that people will have different opinions, so please be respectful! Also, the neglected Miis (my most wanted newcomer) will be included on the list too. Updated for the 1.1.4 patch. Customs are not taken into account.


==Top==
==Top==
*1) Cloud - Very low learning curve, incredible range and good power.
*1) Sheik
*2) Zero Suit Samus - Good KOing ability and range. Recovery is nothing special but her grab game is a different story
*2) Pikachu
*3) Rosalina - Effective puppet fighter.
*3) Rosalina
*4) Sonic - Very fast, can rack up damage very easily. Recovery is one of the best.


==A+==
==S==
*1) Mario - Gimping king.
*1) Zero Suit Samus
*2) Shiek
*3) Sonic
*3) Pikachu - Very easy character to do well with.
*4) Mario
*4) Peach
*5) Ness
*5) Fox
*6) Corrin
*6) Luigi
*7) Yoshi


==A==
==A==
*1) Diddy Kong
*1) Villager
*2) Meta Knight
*2) Fox
*3) Ryu
*3) Ryu
*4) Bayonetta
*4) Fox
*5) Corrin
*5) Ike
*6) Villager
*6 Cloud
*7) Luigi
 
==A-==
*1) Bayonetta
*2) Yoshi
*2) Captain Falcon
*3) Diddy Kong
*4) Wario


==A-==
==A-==
*1) Ike
*1) Peach
*2) Mega Man
*2) Meta Knight
*3) Wario - Great command grab, recovery and KO options.
*3) Pac Man
*4) Dark Pit
*4) Mega Man
*5) Pit  
*5) Wii Fit Trainer
*6) Toon Link
*6) Greninja
*7) R.O.B. - Great recovery, combos, and camping ability. Damage output is ok. Up air needs to be nerfed.
*8) Lucas - He's here because of up smash. Neutral game is average
*9) Pit - Only above Dark Pit because forward tilt and neutral special are better.
*10) Dark Pit
*11) Donkey Kong
*12) Roy
*13) Bowser


==B+==
==B+==
*1) Pac Man - Great approach and mix-up options.
*1) Lucario
*2) R.O.B. - Great recovery, combos, and camping ability. Damage output is ok. Up air needs to be nerfed.
*2) Toon Link
*3) Capain Falcon - Glass cannon fighter.
*3) Mii Brawler
*4) Ness - PK Fire and back throw.
*4) Bowser Jr.
*5) Olimar - Unstoppable when Olimar controls the stage. Achieving that can be hard though.
*5) Link
*6) Lucas - Up smash is amazing. Projectiles are helpful
*6) Robin
*7) Greninja
*7) Olimar
*8) Donkey Kong
*8) Shulk


==B==
==B==
*1) Lucario
*1) Ganondorf
*2) Marth
*2) Mii Gunner
*3) Samus - Charge Shot and Grapple Beam are very good. Decent range and recovery, plus her damage output isn't terrible.
*3) Marth
*4) Yoshi
*4) Charizard
*5) Mii Brawler
*5) Mr. Game and Watch
*6) Luigi
*7) Bowser
*8) Robin
*9) Link
*10) Roy


==C==
==C==
*1) Wii Fit Trainer
*1) Duck Hunt
*2) Bowser Jr.
*2) Kirby
*3) Shulk
*3) Lucina
*4) Mii Gunner
*4) Mr. Game and Watch
*5) Zelda
*5) Dr. Mario
*6) Ganondorf
*6) Mii Sword Fighter
*7) Charizard
*8) Mewtwo - While it has decent moves, its light weight, recovery, and hitbox placement puts Mewtwo near the bottom of the tier list once again.


==D==
==D==
*1) Duck Hunt
*1) Mewtwo - While it has decent moves, its light weight, recovery, and hitbox placement puts Mewtwo near the bottom of the tier list once again.
*2) Lucina
*2) Falco - Decent aerial game, but is pretty sluggish. His attacks aren't very good either.
*3) Mr. Game and Watch
*3) Zelda - Farore's Wind, back throw, and maybe up air are Zelda's only reliable KO moves. Other than that, she really has nothing else worth while other than Phantom Slash, down tilt, and Din's Fire.
*4) King Dedede - Very slow and doesn't have too many super powerful attacks unlike other heavy weights. Jet Hammer is an effective for punishes.
*4) King Dedede - Very slow and doesn't have too many super powerful attacks unlike other heavy weights. Side Special isn't so great either.
*5) Falco - Decent aerial game, but is pretty sluggish. His attacks aren't very good either, barring up smash and lasers.
*6) Kirby


==E==
==E==
*1) Mii Sword Fighter - Decent range and damage output, but physics are very bad.
*1) Samus - Has poor comboing ability, very bad KOing ability, poor specials, and very slow attacks. Her recovery is decent, and her damage output isn't terrible, but she will find herself at 60% before she can even land an attack.
*2) Palutena - She has up smash...
*2) Palutena
*3) Doctor Mario - Mediocre range, terrible recovery, bad grab, unreliable KOing options, and terrible physics put Doc near the bottom.
*3) Jigglypuff - Probably the worst special moveset in the game. If Jigglypuff makes one mistake and is above 60%, Jigglypuff will lose a stock. While it's aerial game is very good, this is not enough to make Jigglypuff viable.
*4) Jigglypuff - Probably the worst special moveset in the game. If Jigglypuff makes one mistake and is above 60%, Jigglypuff will lose a stock. While it's aerial game is very good, this is not enough to make Jigglypuff viable.


==Feedback==
==Feedback==
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@Ganonmew: I never really said that your tier list was bad. Your tier list was good too. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Charlie Brown 19:46, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
@Ganonmew: I never really said that your tier list was bad. Your tier list was good too. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Charlie Brown 19:46, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
This tier list looks out of date.
*Why do you have "top" tier along with number tiers. Why would one character be in "top" tier while an another be in "S" tier?
*Cloud being #1 is debatable. His results in major tournaments are worse than other characters.
*Pikachu at 4th is just wrong, its results are way worse than that. It has poor KO power, damage output and range.
*Zero Suit Samus has fallen off quite a bit. Her results aren't quite that good but Nairo did win SSC 2016. She has no rising aerials and her tilts are pretty bad. She also notably loses to Diddy.
*Diddy is way too low. He has great results and is even ranked 1st on the official tier list. He should be at least top 10.
*Ike isn't that good.
*Mewtwo is significantly too low. His recovery isn't even bad. His results are much better than that. His move are better than decent.
*Doc is too low.
*R.O.B's up air doesn't need to be nerfed if he's ranked where you put him.
*Villager is higher than he should be.
*Pac-man is too high.
-- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 13:18, 24 August 2016 (EDT)
:@Ethan7:
*Tier rankings fixed (maybe)
*Cloud is number one in my opinion.
*Pikachu is by no means a bad character, but he probably was a bit high.
*Zero Suit Samus was hit as hard as Shiek or Bayonetta in patch 1.1.5
*Diddy can move up.
*Ike's dangerous punishes and versatile moveset put him pretty high up in my opinion
*Mewtwo did win Pound, but other than good power and dashing speed, I don't see Mewtwo anywhere close to the top.
*Doc is terrible.
*R.O.B's recovery, zoning, and other KO options put him there too.
*You're probably right about Villager.
*Pac-Man is an incredibly unpredictable character with many moves at his disposal. A lot of untapped potential here.
[[User:Sausage12|Sausage12]] ([[User talk:Sausage12|talk]]) 13:52, 25 August 2016 (EDT)

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