Editing Tournament talk:CLOCKWORK VERSUS TOURNAMENT

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:I am also pretty '''neutral''' about this, and I tagged this mainly to bring some discussion to it since I'm between deletion and keeping the article for the same reasons above. Perhaps there can be a stronger case for both sides. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:46, June 29, 2020 (EDT)
:I am also pretty '''neutral''' about this, and I tagged this mainly to bring some discussion to it since I'm between deletion and keeping the article for the same reasons above. Perhaps there can be a stronger case for both sides. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:46, June 29, 2020 (EDT)
'''Oppose''': I feel like most of the wifi-tournaments needs to have much higher expectations of notability. Most pages involving wifi have over 300 entrants and/or notable players, with multiple PGR/WWR ranked players competing with their typical characters. Having just two notable players and a mere 128 entrants doesn’t feel very competitive (or notable for that matter).  
'''Oppose''': I feel like most of the wifi-tournaments needs to have much higher expectations of notability. Most pages involving wifi have over 300 entrants and/or notable players, with multiple PGR/WWR ranked players competing with their typical characters. Having just two notable players and a mere 128 entrants doesn’t feel very competitive (or notable for that matter).  
[[Lag Spike: Ultimate New Year]] had 400+ entrants and multiple PGR/WWR players (BestNess, Spargo, Sword, Bloom4Eva) competing. There were way more than just “2 strong top players and 2 strong wifi players”. Clockwork vs. just pales in comparison. [[User:MemeDedede|MemeDedede]] ([[User talk:MemeDedede|talk]]) 23:17, June 29, 2020 (EDT)
[[Lag Spike: Ultimate New Year]] had 400+ entrants and multiple PGR/WWR players (BestNess, Spargo, Sword, Bloom4Eva) competing. There were way more than just “2 strong top players and 2 strong wifi players”. Clockwork vs. just pales in comparison. [[User:MemeDedede|MemeDedede]] ([[User talk:MemeDedede|talk]]) 23:17, June 29, 2020 (EDT)MemeDedede


:'''Oppose'''. Was going to stay neutral but, after noticing that the article creator is also someone in the top 8 of the tournament, it seems as more of a vanity page or a show-off to say, "Hey guys I finally made it on SmashWiki!" rather than a real, informative page. Also the fact that it has 128 entrants (which, at this point in time during COVID, it isn't an outstanding amount of entrants for a Wifi tournament) diminishes it's value on the site. <span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">alhecks</span>[[Image:{{NameToIcon|Pikachu}}Head{{#if:Blue|Blue}}{{#if:SSBU|{{#ifeq:SSBU|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBU}}}}.png{{#if:20px|{{!}}20px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Pikachu{{#if:SSBU|&#32;({{#switch:SSBU|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBU}})}}}}]] 16:23, June 30, 2020 (EDT)
'''Oppose'''. Was going to stay neutral but, after noticing that the article creator is also someone in the top 8 of the tournament, it seems as more of a vanity page or a show-off to say, "Hey guys I finally made it on SmashWiki!" rather than a real, informative page. Also the fact that it has 128 entrants (which, at this point in time during COVID, it isn't an outstanding amount of entrants for a Wifi tournament) diminishes it's value on the site. <span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">alhecks</span>[[Image:{{NameToIcon|Pikachu}}Head{{#if:Blue|Blue}}{{#if:SSBU|{{#ifeq:SSBU|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBU}}}}.png{{#if:20px|{{!}}20px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Pikachu{{#if:SSBU|&#32;({{#switch:SSBU|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBU}})}}}}]] 16:23, June 30, 2020 (EDT)
:'''Oppose keeping the page.''' Nothing much to add that hasn't already been said. This is a very small scale tournament. Four notable players isn't anywhere near the requirements for notability. Pot size/attendance are really tiny too. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:36, July 15, 2020 (EDT)
:As Senor Mexicano seaid, I oppose this. [[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color: Red;">talk</span>'']])[[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] 01:30, July 28, 2020 (EDT)

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