Editing Template talk:Zelda universe

==Split SSB4 list==
In order to better organize stages, I think we should split-up the SSB4 part of templates into Wii U and 3DS.
Since as of now only the stages, that we know of, will be different between the Wii U and 3DS version so I will be using the Zelda universe template as an example:

{{Navbox
| name  = Zelda universe
| title = [[File:ZeldaSymbol.png|20px]] [[The Legend of Zelda (universe)|The Legend of Zelda universe]]

| group1    = [[Character]]s
| list1    = [[Link]] ([[Link (SSB)|SSB]]{{·}} [[Link (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Link (SSBB)|SSBB]]{{·}} [[Link (SSB4)|SSB4]]){{·}} [[Princess Zelda|Zelda]] ([[Zelda (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Zelda (SSBB)|SSBB]]) / [[Sheik]] ([[Sheik (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Sheik (SSBB)|SSBB]]){{·}} [[Ganondorf]] ([[Ganondorf (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|SSBB]]){{·}} [[Young Link]] ([[Young Link (SSBM)|SSBM]]){{·}} [[Toon Link]] ([[Toon Link (SSBB)|SSBB]])

| group2    = Side characters
| list2    = '''[[Assist Trophy|Assist trophies:]]''' [[Tingle]]

| group3    = [[Stage]]s
| list3    = '''SSB:''' [[Hyrule Castle]]<br />'''SSBM:''' [[Great Bay]]{{·}} [[Temple]]{{·}} [[Adventure Mode|Adventure Mode:]] [[Underground Maze]] <br />'''SSBB:''' [[Bridge of Eldin]]{{·}} [[Pirate Ship]]{{·}} [[Past and Melee Stages|Melee Stages:]] [[Temple]] <br />'''SSB4:''' '''(Wii U)''' [[Skyloft]] <br />
::'''(3DS)''' [[Spirit Train]]{{·}} [[Gerudo Valley]]

| group4    = [[Item]]s
| list4    = [[Heart Container]]<br />
'''SSBM:''' [[Bunny Hood]]<br />
'''SSBB:''' [[Bunny Hood]]{{·}} [[Deku Nut]]

| group5    = [[Trophy|Trophies]] & [[Sticker]]s
| list5    = [[List of SSBM trophies (The Legend of Zelda series)|Trophies in ''Melee'']]{{·}} [[List of SSBB trophies (The Legend of Zelda series)|Trophies in ''Brawl'']]{{·}} [[List of stickers (The Legend of Zelda series)|Stickers in ''Brawl'']]

| group6    = Music
| list6     = [[List of SSBB Music (The Legend of Zelda series)|Music in ''Brawl'']]
}}<noinclude>

As can be seen, the SSB4 part of the stage list splits into Wii U and 3DS. I think this is a better way to organize the stages as there will be different stages between the home console and handheld versions. 
What do you guys think about this? [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 02:37, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

:'''Neutral for now''': I'll support this if it's rare to see a stage in both games. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 02:38, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

The general idea is not bad, but I say we keep this on the backburner until we have more to go on. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] El Pollo 11:28, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

:It's true that this would be more useful when more stages are announced, but I was thinking it'd be implemented early so that a mass edit of all of the templates wouldn't have to take place later. Just my thoughts. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 12:28, 3 August 2013 (EDT)

I would like to bring this topic back into discussion as we have more to go on than we did before. Also, as a side comment, I personally believe the templates looked better organized when we separated the stages, items, etc. into their respective Smash Bros. games rather than what it is now with them all running together. That's just me. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 10:34, 25 April 2014 (EDT)
:As has been attempted not long ago, we have to pick one between "ignore game disctinctions", "have bloated and lopsided rows", and "be unable to link to everything:". Given that this is a template primarily about the universe itself, I think ignoring game distinctions is the best idea. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 11:30, 25 April 2014 (EDT)
::I believe that if this would happen, the 3DS row should at least line up with the Wii U one. Just my opinion. [[User:Red|Red]] [[User talk:Red|(<small>Talk</small>)]] [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Special:Contributions/Red]] 11:32, 25 April 2014 (EDT)
:::I tried to line them up, but I wasn't able to; that was the closest I could get them. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 12:16, 25 April 2014 (EDT)

{{Navbox
| name  = Zelda universe
| title = [[File:ZeldaSymbol.png|20px]] [[The Legend of Zelda (universe)|The Legend of Zelda universe]]

| group1 = [[Character]]s
| list1  = [[Link]] ([[Link (SSB)|SSB]]{{·}} [[Link (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Link (SSBB)|SSBB]]{{·}} [[Link (SSB4)|SSB4]]){{·}} [[Young Link]] ([[Young Link (SSBM)|SSBM]]){{·}} [[Toon Link]] ([[Toon Link (SSBB)|SSBB]]{{·}} [[Toon Link (SSB4)|SSB4]]){{·}} [[Zelda]] ([[Zelda (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Zelda (SSBB)|SSBB]]{{·}} [[Zelda (SSB4)|SSB4]]){{·}} [[Sheik]] ([[Sheik (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Sheik (SSBB)|SSBB]]{{·}} [[Sheik (SSB4)|SSB4]]){{·}} [[Ganondorf]] ([[Ganondorf (SSBM)|SSBM]]{{·}} [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|SSBB]])

| group2 = [[Assist Trophies]]
| list2  = '''[[SSBB]]''': [[Tingle]] '''[[SSB4]]''': [[Midna]]{{·}} [[Skull Kid]]

| group3 = [[Stage]]s
| list3  = '''[[SSB]]''': [[Hyrule Castle]] '''[[SSBM]]''': [[Great Bay]]{{·}} [[Temple]]{{·}}  [[Underground Maze]] ([[Adventure Mode]]) '''[[SSBB]]''': [[Bridge of Eldin]]{{·}} [[Pirate Ship]]{{·}} [[Melee Stages]]: [[Temple]] '''[[SSB4]]''': [[Gerudo Valley]]{{·}} [[Skyloft]]{{·}} [[Spirit Train]]

| group4 = [[Item]]s
| list4  = [[Beetle]]{{·}} [[Bombchu]]{{·}} [[Bunny Hood]]{{·}} [[Cucco]]{{·}} [[Deku Nut]]{{·}} [[Fairy Bottle]]{{·}} [[Gust Bellows]]{{·}} [[Heart Container]]

| group5 = Enemies
| list5  = [[Like Like]]{{·}} [[Octorok]]{{·}} [[ReDead]]{{·}} [[Stalfos]]

| group6 = [[Trophy|Trophies]] & [[Sticker]]s
| list6  = [[List of SSBM trophies (The Legend of Zelda series)|Trophies in ''Melee'']]{{·}} [[List of SSBB trophies (The Legend of Zelda series)|Trophies in ''Brawl'']]{{·}} [[List of stickers (The Legend of Zelda series)|Stickers in ''Brawl'']]

| group7 = Music
| list7  = [[List of SSBB Music (The Legend of Zelda series)|Music in ''Brawl'']]
}}<noinclude>

How about something like the above template? I only changed the assist trophy and stages part as I'm not quite sure how the items would be handled. But this way, everything is still organized, and there's no lopsided columns or anything. Basically, this is exactly like how it is now, but with games inserted in with parentheses around the stages. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 12:09, 25 April 2014 (EDT)
:That's not bad, though I think the extra brackets are a bit pointless, and yeah we don't really want to have duplicated item links. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Keymaster 00:32, 26 April 2014 (EDT)

:After the failure of the split navboxes, let's just leave them as they are now. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 00:37, 26 April 2014 (EDT)

:Well, I don't think that means we should stop finding a way that works with everything still organized. Also, Toomai, I changed the above template without parentheses to see how it looks. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 11:17, 26 April 2014 (EDT)
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