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| Has anyone done comparisons of ZSS's size/build in Other M and in SSB4? IIRC she was completely dwarfed by the male characters in Other M even ''while'' wearing high-heels; in SSB4, she still has the heels but is still more comparable to the taller characters in height. Furthermore, it looks like her musculature ''did'' change slightly between Zero Mission and Other M, while she has roughly the same build in Brawl and SSB4.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:19, 14 November 2015 (EST) | | Has anyone done comparisons of ZSS's size/build in Other M and in SSB4? IIRC she was completely dwarfed by the male characters in Other M even ''while'' wearing high-heels; in SSB4, she still has the heels but is still more comparable to the taller characters in height. Furthermore, it looks like her musculature ''did'' change slightly between Zero Mission and Other M, while she has roughly the same build in Brawl and SSB4.--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:19, 14 November 2015 (EST) |
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| She looks shorter [http://i.imgur.com/nggkmPT.jpg here]. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:22, 14 November 2015 (EST)
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| I see what you mean, since her model is roughly the same height in both ''Smash'' games with the heels making her a bit shorter - however, the point is, does she have her height from ''Other M'' (where again, she was very petite even ''with'' her heels)? In any case, you have [[Palutena]] being made much shorter than she was in ''Uprising'', so I'm not sure if Samus' new height is an intentional reference to ''Other M'' (and I hope it isn't).--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:27, 14 November 2015 (EST)
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| EDIT: Just had another look at the picture, and it seems that she indeed looks shorter (particularly, her legs aren't as long). But is this universal? Someone could, say, take a side-to-side comparison of her against someone like [[Captain Falcon]] in both games and also compare it to her height against the males in ''Other M'', unless this isn't worth pursuing. At least [https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/23b08c/zero_suit_samus_ssbb_to_ssb4_comparison/%20 according to this discussion], Zamus is ''bulkier'' in ''SSB4'' than in ''Brawl'', so that's something (but again, not sure if worth noting).--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:31, 14 November 2015 (EST)
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| EDIT 2: There's [http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/4/4c/SSB4_-_Galactic_Opposites.jpg this screenshot], which shows her at a height similar to Rosalina. It probably doesn't mean that her height difference from Other M is worth noting, if it exists at all, but it also shows that they probably didn't directly use her shorter height from that game (thank god).--[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 23:13, 14 November 2015 (EST)
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| ZSS is a head length shorter than Rosalina. I can't link to it, but search in google images "zero suit samus height" and you'll likely see it. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 00:16, 15 November 2015 (EST)
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| Also note that Rosalina was made to be pretty tall in this game. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 00:17, 15 November 2015 (EST)
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| As an update, I've been watching Other M cutscenes extensively and noted that ZSS looks skinnier and more youthful than in both of her ''Smash'' appearances. I therefore noted (both on this page and the SSB4 page) that ZSS's design retains the general elements and body type from her ''Brawl'' and ZM design; even comparing the top two images on this page, it's pretty clear that her legs are thicker in ZM than in OM. IMO this information seems objective, unlike with her height compared to Other M. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 12:03, 7 February 2016 (EST)
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| Decided to remove most of the details on her physical appearance; I disagree with another user over her height, so it seems that there's some subjectivity involved (especially since character heights in ''Smash'', in general, are hard to directly compare with their source material). I'll probably re-add a few details that can't be argued on, such as the hairstyle, but it seems that the build/height are very subjective.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 18:39, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
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| == Samus Returns artwork ==
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| Does anyone think the Other M artwork of ZSS in the infobox could/should be replaced with the Samus Returns artwork? While SSBU ZSS still wears a version of the Other M Zero Suit (now with Zero Mission colors it seems), she's definitely bulked up and that may indicate Samus Returns influence to some extent, as it gives her more of a passing resemblance to Samus Returns ZSS than Other M ZSS. But that may be subjective. [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 11:35, 18 June 2018 (EDT)
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