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:::First of all, [[SW:NPA|no personal attacks]]. That ending comment was entirely unnecessary. Second, why are you freaking out over these edits? We have given you several reasons as to why we keep on reverting your edits, yet not only do you completely ignore it but you continue to push your agenda and sugarcoat Zelda. Whatever tech she has, her weaknesses still overshadow them, which is why many top players still consider her to be one of the worst characters in the game. You may think she "clearly deserves it," but Rienne's results on a national level aren't good, and even her Wi-Fi performances are mostly sub-par, something that [https://smashdata.gg/smash/melee/player/rienne?id=329187 data backs up]. Rienne is also not the only relevant Zelda main, as {{Sm|Kalne}} is ranked in Japan. If you take a second to calm down and read what others and I have put on the table as well as our guidelines, we can discuss this in a more productive manner. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:31, January 12, 2021 (EST) | :::First of all, [[SW:NPA|no personal attacks]]. That ending comment was entirely unnecessary. Second, why are you freaking out over these edits? We have given you several reasons as to why we keep on reverting your edits, yet not only do you completely ignore it but you continue to push your agenda and sugarcoat Zelda. Whatever tech she has, her weaknesses still overshadow them, which is why many top players still consider her to be one of the worst characters in the game. You may think she "clearly deserves it," but Rienne's results on a national level aren't good, and even her Wi-Fi performances are mostly sub-par, something that [https://smashdata.gg/smash/melee/player/rienne?id=329187 data backs up]. Rienne is also not the only relevant Zelda main, as {{Sm|Kalne}} is ranked in Japan. If you take a second to calm down and read what others and I have put on the table as well as our guidelines, we can discuss this in a more productive manner. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:31, January 12, 2021 (EST) | ||
Okay, I will try to write about this while not being influenced by the lack of food. Alright, I want to make a mention about Rienne. Wich, right now, she currently is the only relevant Zelda player to pro-actively push Zelda's meta. There was ALOT, and ALOT of work that has been put into the profane tome (and the guide is not even near completion). So, from an outside perspective, Rienne is currently the only notable person to document such datas and techs for Zelda. From my own perspective, the zelda page is clearly not updated to current days. There is NO WAY on earth to deny the work of Rienne (hence my goal to make her part of it, where she belongs). I cannot tell if you had the chance to peak at this guide, but this is a major piece of data. The way she discovered movement and optimization with the character is something that has never been seen. My point is not to over fantasize Zelda, in fact, it is very far from it. I do tend to get carried away in my writings, like I mentioned, I never clap back to a reality check. Althought, while sugar coating the Zelda page isnt my point, I'm pretty sure it is important to document relevant content that is tied to this wiki. This includes probably the best Zelda-tech guide made to this day, in addition to her potent movement game. Im not saying shes a fast character | Okay, I will try to write about this while not being influenced by the lack of food. Alright, I want to make a mention about Rienne. Wich, right now, she currently is the only relevant Zelda player to pro-actively push Zelda's meta. There was ALOT, and ALOT of work that has been put into the profane tome (and the guide is not even near completion). So, from an outside perspective, Rienne is currently the only notable person to document such datas and techs for Zelda. From my own perspective, the zelda page is clearly not updated to current days. There is NO WAY on earth to deny the work of Rienne (hence my goal to make her part of it, where she belongs). I cannot tell if you had the chance to peak at this guide, but this is a major piece of data. The way she discovered movement and optimization with the character is something that has never been seen. My point is not to over fantasize Zelda, in fact, it is very far from it. I do tend to get carried away in my writings, like I mentioned, I never clap back to a reality check. Althought, while sugar coating the Zelda page isnt my point, I'm pretty sure it is important to document relevant content that is tied to this wiki. This includes probably the best Zelda-tech guide made to this day, in addition to her potent movement game. Im not saying shes a fast character, but she certainly is quick. So far, from what I've seen, no Zelda player EVER has been able to optimize Zelda's movement. Rienne and Cosmo are probably the only one who actually used wavedash / wavesurf alot, to give you an idea. On paper, Zelda does have some amazing platform movement (things that can be added to the page). Althought as you probably know, her development is still very stagnant. This leads to a situation where the receipts are there (theorically), but not the practice itself (tournament-wise). Anyways, all this paragraph to say that the page can be updated with facts, even tho it doesnt give you guys a nice reputation. If anything is sugarcoated, sure have fun removing it. But the way certain mechanics were removed from the page, in addition to discredit Rienne's work, to me thats just bullcrap. Sorry if im being rude, or personally attacking any of your crew, but to constantly discredit --FACTS-- (like certain movement techs) is actually getting the best of me. At this point, if valid content doesnt make it to the Zelda page because of ''reputation'' , we are running into a big issue. | ||
-This is just me getting some heat off of my chest, dont take it as an attack. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:76.66.137.52|76.66.137.52]] ([[User talk:76.66.137.52|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/76.66.137.52|contribs]]) 02:10, January 13, 2021 (EST)</small> | -This is just me getting some heat off of my chest, dont take it as an attack. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:76.66.137.52|76.66.137.52]] ([[User talk:76.66.137.52|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/76.66.137.52|contribs]]) 02:10, January 13, 2021 (EST)</small> | ||
