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==Alternate Costume?==
==Alternate Costume?==
This is just speculation and should be removed. No official source confirms that the Male Wii Fit Trainer will be such. Also, to respond to Ixbran's statement in the edit summary ("If he were an assist trophy, a section dedicated to assist trophies would be on the official site"), how do you figure that? There doesn't appear to be such on the Dojo's archive, and that page had a section for stages, which is absent for the Smash 4 site. Also, while one would assume Sakurai would confirm Assist Trophies their first appearance in a pic of the day, the same could also be said of alternate costumes. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 09:05, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
This is just speculation and should be removed. No official source confirms that the Male Wii Fit Trainer will be such. Also, to respond to Ixbran's statement in the edit summary ("If he were an assist trophy, a section dedicated to assist trophies would be on the official site"), how do you figure that? There doesn't appear to be such on the Dojo's archive, and that page had a section for stages, which is absent for the Smash 4 site. Also, while one would assume Sakurai would confirm Assist Trophies their first appearance in a pic of the day, the same could also be said of alternate costumes. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 09:05, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
:Can I get some kind of response to this? Is there an official source that says it's an alternate costume? Because [https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADbUgNpbkcaUQ Sakurai's pic of the day comment] didn't. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 21:10, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
::It could be an alt. costume or Sakurai really decided to make a Male Wii Fit Trainer char. On another note, if it is an alt. costume I have a question: has anyone ever heard FWFT make any vocalizations? Because people will be ''stereotyping'' if MWFT is a palette swap and has female grunts. [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 21:28, 31 October 2013 (EDT)
::We don't know the Male trainer's role in the game. It would be odd if he was an alternate costume for the Wii Fit Trainer we have, since while there were alternate costumes inspired by other characters like Peach's Daisy costume, they don't come close enough to the character. The Daisy costume just looks like Peach wearing orange and dyed her hair, and does not have Daisy's face. And the alternate costumes are based on color, and the two Wii Fit Trainers wear a similar color scheme, so it is a stretch (stretch, wii fit, get it?) to consider the Male trainer an alternate costume. Why isn't Toon Link or Young Link an alt costume for Link? Or Dr. Mario a costume for Mario? Nothing's confirmed for Male Wii Fit Trainer. He can be an assist trophy or something. Best not to assume until it is confirmed. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 16:50, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
== The Hulahoops ==
Sakury never siad that The HUEla hoops were her up specile moves. Speculaton.
== Male or female? ==
Whether or not we need to refer to the WFT or Villager as female or male, respectively, is a legitimate debate because both titles are ambiguous. I have two ways we can address the issue that is what to refer to the Wii Fit Trainer and Villager:
*We can assign genders based on the artwork (Villager's shows the male, so we use "he," "his," and "him", and WFT's is female, so we use "her," "hers," and "she")
*We can use "they" and "their" to be neutral.<br>
For the sake of consistency we'd have to apply either one of these rules to both articles. Thoughts? <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 21:43, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
:First option would be better. If we referred to WFT with "they", then we run into wording issues such as, "They unleash a powerful yoga punch", which would heavily imply that they're a duo character when they definitely aren't. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 23:45, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
::I'd refer to WFT and Villager as a female and male, respectively. Their default costumes/palette swaps display them as female and male, again, respectively. [[User:Chilex|Chilex]] ([[User talk:Chilex|talk]]) 23:50, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
:::Yeah, first option will do too. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Computer 23:53, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
::::I agree as well; first option is probably the best. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 00:07, 12 July 2014 (EDT)
== Moveset poses/exercises ==
I noticed that the main page is lacking in terms of WFT's moves. After watching various videos, I feel fairly certain about most of these points. Even though some may be obvious and/or already known, I want to point out all of them anyway:
* Her crouch is '''Push-Ups'''; she can crawl by hopping forward and back.
* When she falls face-up, she is in the '''Spinal Twist''' pose. Her get-up attack may also be the '''Spinal Twist''', but I'm not certain.
* All of her dodge animations seem to be the '''Half-Moon''' pose.
* Her jab is 2 hits of the '''Single Leg Twist''', followed by a '''Lunge''' (both are muscle exercises).
* Her dash attack is the '''Gate''' pose.
* When she attacks from a ledge, it's the '''Side Plank''' from the '''Push-Up and Side Plank''' exercise.
* Her grab/pummel appears to be the '''Rowing Squat''' exercise.
* Her forward tilt is the '''Dance''' pose.
* Her up tilt is the '''Triangle''' pose.
* Her down tilt is the '''Bridge''' pose.
* The '''Single Leg Extension''' exercise could either be her neutral or forward aerial.
* The '''Half-Moon''' pose could be her up, forward, or neutral aerial. This is somewhat odd as it appears her '''Half-Moon''' pose is also her dodge animation.
* The '''Jackknife''' exercise could be her up or neutral aerial.
* The '''Chair''' pose appears to be her down aerial.
* Her back aerial appears to be the '''Cobra''' pose, but I'm not completely certain.
[[User:Pyitoechito|Pyitoechito]] ([[User talk:Pyitoechito|talk]]) 11:55, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:Unless these are confirmed by Sakurai, it's merely speculation to assume they are named after a similar pose. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 11:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
::Blarg, I didn't even consider that was what I was essentially doing when making this discussion. My bad. [[User:Pyitoechito|Pyitoechito]] ([[User talk:Pyitoechito|talk]]) 16:27, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
== Side Special ==
For some reason one of the images says that the soccer ball is "possibly a side special." 1. Why did you allow speculation like that on the mainspace? 2. We've already seen that it is her side special. Might need a change. [[Special:Contributions/72.104.147.141|72.104.147.141]] 12:40, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
==Up and down smashes==
Could someone please put here the link to the youtube video that shows her speaking when she does her up and down smashes, as said in the last trivia? [[User:Hue hue|Hue hue]] ([[User talk:Hue hue|talk]]) 14:08, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
== Attributes: Wall of text, should be more concise ==
I can only shrink this section so much by myself. Can someone help, I can't shrink it anymore without risking removing important info and annoying someone. [[Special:Contributions/76.168.47.247|76.168.47.247]] 20:47, 6 May 2015 (EDT)
== Reorganization Needed: For what, exactly? ==
I can't reorganize this page unless I know '''What''' to organize. Can someone elaborate on this tag? [[Special:Contributions/108.178.162.66|108.178.162.66]] 16:34, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
== Talking after battle ends (Trivia) ==
In the Trivia Section there ist says: "Oddly, if the match is quit or won while the Wii Fit Trainer is speaking (through a taunt or a smash attack), it can still be heard, even over the announcer. She shares this with Bayonetta."
This claim is misleading or at least incomplete, as there are other characters whose talking is not cut by the announcer. When female Corrin dies (i never heard the male one) she says something. This sound is so long, it almost even reaches to the winning characters winning pose sound. Can somebody confirm that all sounds are played to the end and are not cut by the announcer or the game ending and the two examples mentioned are only very long so you could notice it? or is there an confirmed example of any (speech-) soundfile being cut before it would end?
==Trivia point should be removed/changed==
One of the trivia says WFT is the only gender changing character to be female by default. The Inkling in Ultimate is default female, so it needs to be removed, or changed to say either that she's the only character like this in SSB4, or she and the Inkling are the only two. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 18:51, 31 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:That trivia applies only to SSB4 (hence it being on this page) so I say it still stands. Her [[Wii Fit Trainer|general page]] does make them being the only two with a female default clear. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 19:00, 31 July 2018 (EDT)
::Yeah, I think that while that is sort of a valid point, to avoid confusion, I'm going to have it say "in SSB4". [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 10:13, 1 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
::Nevermind, [[User:TheNuttyOne|Nutty]] already fixed it.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 10:15, 1 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

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