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==Ember==
Listen, I just want to say something right now: I don't know if this is resource but we can see Entei use Fire Spin and it looks nothing like the move Vulpix uses, it's way more close to Ember, so I suggest replacing the move until the game is out. [[User:AnnieCat07|AnnieCat07]] ([[User talk:AnnieCat07|talk]]) 14:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
:Yeah, well both Kyogre and Blastoise use Hydro Pump, but neither of them function the same. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 14:12, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
Well, yeah but at least those two look the same, and kind of work the same: Blastoise's Hydro Pump is also able to push foes like Kyogre's.[[User:AnnieCat07|AnnieCat07]] ([[User talk:AnnieCat07|talk]]) 14:20, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
==Move==
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'''Oppose''' Vulpix is Vulpix, I changed it before the page was made because "Alolan" is simply the variation. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:43, 15 June 2018 (EDT)
'''Oppose''' Vulpix is Vulpix, I changed it before the page was made because "Alolan" is simply the variation. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:43, 15 June 2018 (EDT)
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'''Oppose''' I've decided to change my stance on this, and fully agree with Aidan. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 08:05, 19 June 2018 (EDT)
'''Oppose''' I've decided to change my stance on this, and fully agree with Aidan. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 08:05, 19 June 2018 (EDT)
==Ember==
Listen, I just want to say something right now: I don't know if this is resource but we can see Entei use Fire Spin and it looks nothing like the move Vulpix uses, it's way more close to Ember, so I suggest replacing the move until the game is out. [[User:AnnieCat07|AnnieCat07]] ([[User talk:AnnieCat07|talk]]) 14:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
:Yeah, well both Kyogre and Blastoise use Hydro Pump, but neither of them function the same. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 14:12, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
::Well, yeah but at least those two look the same, and kind of work the same: Blastoise's Hydro Pump is also able to push foes like Kyogre's.[[User:AnnieCat07|AnnieCat07]] ([[User talk:AnnieCat07|talk]]) 14:20, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
:::Blastoise's actually does knockback and damage, unlike Kyogre's. Also, Greninja uses Hydro Pump too, which also has different qualities.
:::Let me give another example: Icy Wind. Articuno, Kyurem, and <rollover>Snowpix|Alolan Vulpix</rollover> all use Icy Wind. Articuno performs it like an [[Off-wave]], while Kyurem blows 2 wind storms from its sides, and Snowpix shoots a single projectile. Ergo, the moves don't have to be similar to be the same. If this doesn't convince you, then I don't know what will. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 14:35, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
::::One thing that I propose is that we remove the move altogether since the name hasn't been confirmed yet. When I initially added the move for Vulpix, I said that it was {{s|bulbapedia|Fire Spin|move}} since that was what [[Fennekin]] used in ''Smash 4'' , but it turns out that Fennekin actually used the move {{s|bulbapedia|Incinerate|move}}, negating that point entirely. The only thing Fire Spin really has going for it right now is that it is learned at level 15 like {{s|bulbapedia|Icy Wind|move}}, but we really don't know if Alolan Vulpix uses that move either. The pair could use {{s|bulbapedia|Powder Snow|move}} and {{s|bulbapedia|Ember|move}} which are both learned at Level 1. The blog uses the phrase "icy breath," but that could easily apply to a different move: {{s|bulbapedia|Frost Breath|move}}, a move that Alolan Vulpix can learn via TM. We could put the move Incinerate, but Vulpix can't learn that move anymore in Gen 7. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we're basically taking stabs in the dark at this, and I think removing the move until we get confirmation seems like the best way forward. [[User:Jigglypoof21|Jigglypoof21]] ([[User talk:Jigglypoof21|talk]]) 15:06, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

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