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| I do not think whatever was posted on 4chan and from NewWabiSabi is reliable, since [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78793009?jumpto=2#2 Vergeben posted the opposite public information at the GameFAQS during the night before the reveal.] WabiSabi also had shared mistaken stuff in the past, so who ever told him about what DasVergeben said was probably trying to validate the 4chan post with false information just to discredit him. However, his activity page never updated until today for some weird reason, which could explain why so many other people had no idea about his recent postings prior the Smash and Pokemon stuff. That said, the character he officially rumored was only Min Min, this DM leak is likely fake, its not that hard to do Inspect Element within a direct message. --Ryzmat 15:52, June 26, 2020 (EDT) | | I do not think whatever was posted on 4chan and from NewWabiSabi is reliable, since [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/78793009?jumpto=2#2 Vergeben posted the opposite public information at the GameFAQS during the night before the reveal.] WabiSabi also had shared mistaken stuff in the past, so who ever told him about what DasVergeben said was probably trying to validate the 4chan post with false information just to discredit him. However, his activity page never updated until today for some weird reason, which could explain why so many other people had no idea about his recent postings prior the Smash and Pokemon stuff. That said, the character he officially rumored was only Min Min, this DM leak is likely fake, its not that hard to do Inspect Element within a direct message. --Ryzmat 15:52, June 26, 2020 (EDT) |
| :Just would like to point out that the linked post was made well after Min Min was actually revealed (late in the evening on 6/22, while Min Min was announced that morning). The point stands that the other rumor probably doesn't originate from him, but he also did not state anything about Min Min before she was common knowledge. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 17:20, June 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::Yeah, also WabiSabi has been doing [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bZuP2HNqohP1lIPiTIGr9_LP1-bqVTBBFSMwdZOij1A/edit very] [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433037571338272789/731178137643384872/unknown.png discriminating] things as of late according to accusers, there's a big chance that claim was entirely made up just to discredit another prominent insider. Nothing very raw to back this, but this just tell you not to take these claims seriously.--Ryzmat 14:02, July 12, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Minecraft ==
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| I can pretty confidently sure that a statement from 2 years ago mentioning Minecraft in smash was is in no way a prediction or leak towards Steve in smash. So, is there a reason as to why his mention of Minecraft representation comes under his proven documents when the statement is extremely outdated? Just curious (and sorry for any rudeness). [[Special:Contributions/81.87.12.50|81.87.12.50]] 12:10, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Oh and I apologise for the bad grammar. [[Special:Contributions/81.87.12.50|81.87.12.50]] 12:11, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| -I agree. I don’t think a statement that old should be proven just because of Steve being announced, considering it was 2 years ago when it was made and quite a long while before FP2 was even planned.
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| -Operationgamer17 12:16, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| He's saying on GameFAQs that this is what he's heard. End of the day he heard Minecraft content was coming to Smash, and it happened. That's the facts. Any other comments are just fanboy speculations. [[Special:Contributions/58.168.4.52|58.168.4.52]] 13:58, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| Maybe this could be worth adding. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/79011455?jumpto=103#103
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| -Operationgamer17 2:54, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| You guys should also give Hitagi some spare light, since he was also one of the few other people calling in on Steve for Smash. (Yes, he's retired from rumors.)Ryzmat 22:16, October 1, 2020 (EDT)
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| According to former Minecraft production director Daniel Kaplan, this has been in the works for at least 5 years. So it could well be that Verge was right after all. [[Special:Contributions/73.40.56.255|73.40.56.255]] 11:16, October 2, 2020 (EDT)
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| See this is my issue: under the strictest definition of the word "prove", there's no real way to know if that deal was the one Vergeben was talking about back then. That's just circumstantial evidence, which is not synonymous with "proof". - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 11:24, October 2, 2020 (EDT)
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| I believe that the 5 year thing is more than enough proof, like, what else do you want? It's been proven that Minecraft in Smash was being discussed when Verge made the claim, the bottom line is Verge said Minecraft is coming to Smash at the time Minecraft in Smash was actually being discussed. [[Special:Contributions/86.150.21.139|86.150.21.139]] 08:57, October 3, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Well Steve is in now. He never stated when Steve is coming so he's technically right. Doesn't matter if he knew about the second Fighters Pass coming two years ago. He promised Steve would be coming and Steve came. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 20:00, October 25, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Deleting GameFAQs ==
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| is it worth noting that Vergeben has now deleted his GameFAQs meaning he won't be leaking anything anymore? [[User:RSM|<span style="color: #714EFF">'''RSM'''</span>]] [[File:RSMSignatureHead1.png|20px|Banjo_%26_Kazooie_(SSBU)]][[File:RSMSignatureHead2.png|20px|Steve_(SSBU)]] ([[User talk:RSM|talk]]) 08:36, November 29, 2020 (EST) 13:01, January 28, 2021 (EST)
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| [[File:Vergeben gamefaqs deleted.png|thumb]]
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| :It looks like his account is still there to me. Although I don't use GameFAQs so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if it really was gone. If he really did delete his account I'd say go ahead and give it a mention. [[User:WolfBloodSpam|WolfBloodSpam]] ([[User talk:WolfBloodSpam|talk]]) 01:33, January 30, 2021 (EST)
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| It's still there? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Vergeben
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| What do you mean? --Ryzmat 20:08, June 15, 2021 (EDT)
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| == Regarding Master Chief ==
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| Vergeben made this reddit post regarding MC in Smash. Maybe the article should be updated to reflect this. https://www.reddit.com/user/DasVergeben/comments/o6alh2/update_on_things/ <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Operationgamer17|Operationgamer17]] ([[User talk:Operationgamer17|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Operationgamer17|contribs]]) 10:37, June 24, 2021 (EDT)</small>
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| :That post has tons of useful information on Vergeben's current status in Smash leaks; the article as a whole could probably use touching-up with what was revealed there. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 12:20, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
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| ::It's clear from Verge's comments [https://www.reddit.com/user/DasVergeben/comments/o6alh2/update_on_things/ here] that he was expecting Master Chief to be revealed at E3. Article should be updated. [[Special:Contributions/203.0.172.252|203.0.172.252]] 07:45, June 25, 2021 (EDT)
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