Editing Talk:Starter character

==Brawl Starters==
What exactly is the reasoning behind the starters list in Brawl? It lists all the characters except newcomers. Why is this? [[User:Darkurai|Darkurai]] 18:00, August 20, 2007 (EDT)

That's exactly what I thought. I guess the list is based on the characters that appeared as starters in Melee. *shrugs* -- [[User:The Magnum Master|The Magnum Master]] 20:29, September 14, 2007 (EDT)

== Does Amazon Leak mean anything? ==

Should we take into consideration this image? http://smashboards.com/writer/thederrit/AmazonWiiU.png
Judging that its being used to officially describe the game i figure its at least probable that this could be the starting roster for the wii u version. Sakurai never said both version started with the same characters, only that the final roster was the same.
[[User:Zm123bro|Zm123bro]] ([[User talk:Zm123bro|talk]]) 12:52, 17 October 2014 (EDT)

== Ultimate's starting roster ==

Since we cannot seem to agree on something, this only means that a discussion needs to be held.

Since ''Ultimate''{{'}}s reveal, Sakurai has been very vague about whether or not the hidden 4 from the original game will be starters. In both the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93H7YC-83o E3 presentation] and [https://sourcegaming.info/2018/07/02/smash_special_complete/ Famitsu], Sakurai has only called it the original roster; in the latter, he specifically says, "I’ve decided to limit the number of fighters initially available to the original Nintendo 64 roster."

With that said, the wiki appears to be on and off about whether or not Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, Luigi, and Ness will be unlockable. [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not speculative|Our own policy prohibits the use of speculation on the wiki]], and therefore I move that the four unlockables in the original Smash 64 have their unlockability status listed as "Unknown" until the game comes out, on the grounds that we cannot make a clear statement based on Sakurai's vague wording. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:40, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
:I agree 100%. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 01:44, 16 July 2018 (EDT)

== Mii Fighters are not starters ==

I don't think the Mii Fighters should be listed as starters. This page has screenshots of the starting roster and the Miis aren't there. The starters are the fighters that are always selectable when you first buy the game and go straight into Smash. If you have to go into Games & More to create a Mii, that is not a starter because creating a Mii is the requirement. Starters have no requirements. Even if the creation process is simple, it's like calling a character you unlocked from beating Classic Mode a starter or calling a downloaded character like Piranha Plant a starter. And Sakurai said that only the original eight would be starters in Ultimate, so there shouldn't be any argument about whether the Miis are starters or not. In fact, making the Miis status unknown after the starter roster has been confirmed by Masahiro Sakurai with a screenshot to prove it violates [[SW:SPEC]]. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 18:42, 11 November 2018 (EST)
:I agree. They could be or couldn't but, let's see how that works out. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:46, 11 November 2018 (EST)
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 I don't think the Mii Fighters should be listed as starters. This page has screenshots of the starting roster and the Miis aren't there. The starters are the fighters that are always selectable when you first buy the game and go straight into Smash. If you have to go into Games & More to create a Mii, that is not a starter because creating a Mii is the requirement. Starters have no requirements. Even if the creation process is simple, it's like calling a character you unlocked from beating Classic Mode a starter or calling a downloaded character like Piranha Plant a starter. And Sakurai said that only the original eight would be starters in Ultimate, so there shouldn't be any argument about whether the Miis are starters or not. In fact, making the Miis status unknown after the starter roster has been confirmed by Masahiro Sakurai with a screenshot to prove it violates [[SW:SPEC]]. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 18:42, 11 November 2018 (EST)
 :I agree. They could be or couldn't but, let's see how that works out. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:46, 11 November 2018 (EST)
-== Should the Original 8's trivia-points about being Starters in all of their appearances be removed? ==
-Earlier today, I read a couple of articles regarding Link, and in his main article, I saw a trivia-point stating that Link was the only Legend of Zelda character to be a starter-character in every game, which I removed because I feel like it doesn't fit our trivia guidelines. But then the next thing you'll know, is that I decided to check on the other characters who were Smash 64's Original 8 Starters, and it so happens that as far as i've checked, Donkey Kong and Fox both had that kind of trivia-point as well, so I wouldn't be surprised to find out if the same thing applies with Mario, Samus, Kirby, and Pikachu's articles. And what I want to know is... If all those Original 8 Characters having a trivia-point stating that they're the only reps to be starter in all of their appearances is a trivia-point that should be either kept or completely removed. I'm asking permission first because I don't want to seem like some kind of vandal removing so-called important text from articles, and the reason I chose this talk-page is because that series of trivia-points were from so many different articles, that I think the best hub area to discuss it is in the Starter Character article.
-So should that aforementioned trivia-point (for any characters that i've mentioned) be kept or removed? Make sure to let me know, cuz I want to be real confident about this.
-[[User:NinTOONdo|NinTOONdo]] ([[User talk:NinTOONdo|talk]]) 22:31, 14 August 2022 (EST)
-:I agree, it falls under the "uninteresting" and "obvious" points in [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 23:48, August 14, 2022 (EDT)
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