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:Another question is whether the criteria should be based ''Smash'', some characters are not fixed in different games, such as Viruses is divided into Mario series in SSBM or SSBU and "Other" in SSBB or SSB4, and Pauline and Kamek. So I think the origin universe should be the criterion rather than the Smash, if we should be based ''Smash'', we should also decide which one to use. Anyway, this requires a unified standard.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 05:57, May 30, 2019 (EDT) | :Another question is whether the criteria should be based ''Smash'', some characters are not fixed in different games, such as Viruses is divided into Mario series in SSBM or SSBU and "Other" in SSBB or SSB4, and Pauline and Kamek. So I think the origin universe should be the criterion rather than the Smash, if we should be based ''Smash'', we should also decide which one to use. Anyway, this requires a unified standard.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 05:57, May 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::Is it because the item in question is somewhat generic, being a soccer ball? I admit I had found it strange that it was listed as from ''Super Mario Strikers'' in ''Brawl''. But it makes sense when taking its function into account when introduced as an item in ''Smash 4''. I think ''Soccer'' is there because it was the oldest Nintendo game that used a soccer ball, while ''Super Mario Strikers'' was the recent. I don't think using the ''Smash'' symbol makes sense. Maybe it would have if ''Super Mario Strikers'' was not listed as one of its origins. The Hammer, the Golden Hammer, Cloaking Device, Flipper, Parasol, Rocket Belt, Spring, Steel Diver, Super Scope, and Unira, are commonly thought to be ''Smash'' original items, but come from series listed in their trophies. The Barrel is listed as from ''Smash'', and the Beastball is listed as ''Smash'' as it is an item that does not have a series listed due to not having a collectable of it. Each ''Smash'' original item that had a collectable prior to ''Ultimate'' is listed as originating from one of the first four ''Smash'' games. That's why it does not make sense for the Soccer Ball to use the ''Smash'' symbol. In the case for the Viruses, they were originally listed as part of the ''Mario'' series before in ''Melee'' like you said. Even if they weren't, we probably would have still used the ''Mario'' symbol for them. Same case for Pauline and Kamek, and a similar case with the Miis. Their Spirits are listed as part of ''Smash'', but we list the [[Mii]] page with the ''Mii'' symbol. Using the "Others" symbol also does not make sense as it is listed as part of a serires that has a symbol. So if the Soccer Ball is listed as part of the ''Mario'' series, we should use the ''Mario'' symbol, shouldn't we? Or is there a problem with using the ''Mario'' symbol that I am just not seeing? [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 13:21, May 30, 2019 (EDT) | ::Is it because the item in question is somewhat generic, being a soccer ball? I admit I had found it strange that it was listed as from ''Super Mario Strikers'' in ''Brawl''. But it makes sense when taking its function into account when introduced as an item in ''Smash 4''. I think ''Soccer'' is there because it was the oldest Nintendo game that used a soccer ball, while ''Super Mario Strikers'' was the recent. I don't think using the ''Smash'' symbol makes sense. Maybe it would have if ''Super Mario Strikers'' was not listed as one of its origins. The Hammer, the Golden Hammer, Cloaking Device, Flipper, Parasol, Rocket Belt, Spring, Steel Diver, Super Scope, and Unira, are commonly thought to be ''Smash'' original items, but come from series listed in their trophies. The Barrel is listed as from ''Smash'', and the Beastball is listed as ''Smash'' as it is an item that does not have a series listed due to not having a collectable of it. Each ''Smash'' original item that had a collectable prior to ''Ultimate'' is listed as originating from one of the first four ''Smash'' games. That's why it does not make sense for the Soccer Ball to use the ''Smash'' symbol. In the case for the Viruses, they were originally listed as part of the ''Mario'' series before in ''Melee'' like you said. Even if they weren't, we probably would have still used the ''Mario'' symbol for them. Same case for Pauline and Kamek, and a similar case with the Miis. Their Spirits are listed as part of ''Smash'', but we list the [[Mii]] page with the ''Mii'' symbol. Using the "Others" symbol also does not make sense as it is listed as part of a serires that has a symbol. So if the Soccer Ball is listed as part of the ''Mario'' series, we should use the ''Mario'' symbol, shouldn't we? Or is there a problem with using the ''Mario'' symbol that I am just not seeing? [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 13:21, May 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
