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| == Unknown symbol explanation == | | == Unknown symbol explanation == |
| The Smash Bros. logo is a circle, right? I think the unknown logo means it is taking random bits out of other series. It's more of a "Miscellaneous" or "Other" symbol than "Unknown". This is used for any series that doesn't have a symbol, or otherwise we can just assumed it was dreamed up by the Smash series. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 01:05, 11 February 2015 (EST) | | The Smash Bros. logo is a circle, right? I think the unknown logo means it is taking random bits out of other series. It's more of a "Miscellaneous" or "Other" symbol than "Unknown". This is used for any series that doesn't have a symbol, or otherwise we can just assumed it was dreamed up by the Smash series. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 01:05, 11 February 2015 (EST) |
| :But why BATTLEFIELD? It's just a normal Smash stage. The logo would look more at home on a NES REMIX stage. Plus whenever I saw that symbol on the stage selection, I used to think the game crashed. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 06:33, 5 February 2016 (EST)
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| Someone found this [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/3/3e/MiiverseSymbol.svg| symbol for the Miiverse Stage]]. Should we include it? | | Someone found this [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/3/3e/MiiverseSymbol.svg| symbol for the Miiverse Stage]]. Should we include it? |
| :If it's official, then yes. Where did you found it? (PS: Please sign your message next time...) --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 21:45, 6 April 2015 (EDT) | | :If it's official, then yes. Where did you found it? (PS: Please sign your message next time...) --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 21:45, 6 April 2015 (EDT) |
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| In Smash 4, Custom Stages have a symbol: https://gyazo.com/cc7ada9ca002408314677fb822487897 --[[Special:Contributions/68.83.241.163|68.83.241.163]] 23:14, 4 February 2016 (EST)
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| :Yeah, this should probably be covered here like the Melee Battlefield icon. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:16, 4 February 2016 (EST)
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| ::...huh. Yeah, that's valid enough to deserve a spot here. I'll have to find the source file before I can do it up though. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Victorious 23:57, 4 February 2016 (EST)
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| ::Can't find it; I'm not seeing anything that looks like this in the series symbols or stage icon rips from TSR. So hmm. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomperable 00:42, 5 February 2016 (EST)
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| :::What about tracing a SVG over a good enough screenshot? (By the way, are the .png versions still needed?) -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 05:19, 5 February 2016 (EST)
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| ::::The problem is that this specific usage of a series symbol is both slightly tilted and obscured by text, which in this particular case means I can't tell how large the triangle-like shape is supposed to be. Can it be done? Probably. Would it be a good idea to take a bit of time to find something better before attempting it? Also probably. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Prismatic 09:36, 5 February 2016 (EST)
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| :::::I took a clearer screenshot with no text obscuring the symbol, and by comparing it with a screenshot of the Final Fantasy symbol in the stage selection screen (only slightly obscured by the stage name and with a neat flat top) I found out the tilt is ~15°. I traced the symbol (taking the tilt into account) as a .svg and added it to the page; is a .png version needed too? -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 16:30, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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| == Remove the SpecialStages symbol from the "Other universe" pages. ==
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| I don't see why we use the "Special Stages" symbol for the pages about subjects from unrepresented universes. This symbol was used once officially for the Melee {{SSB4|Battlefield}} but we use it for the minor universes. Isn't that kind of confusing? When Super Smash Bros. show something from a universe not represented by a fighter or stage, like the Smash 4 trophies in the Trophy Gallery and the Ultimate Assist Trophies in the Nintendo Directs they simply don't use a series symbol for unrepresented series while they have the appropriate symbols for represented series. I think we should remove the SpecialSeries symbol from the articles when they are not referring to SSBM Battlefield. The Assist Trophies would look better without that unnecessary symbol in their caption. On tables? I'm sure there would be a way to work with unbranded universes. We don't need a placeholder. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 18:55, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :I disagree that we don't need a placeholder - for one, simply because we're a wiki. If someone comes along to a page and sees that there is no symbol for something, they're more likely to believe that it's missing as opposed to intentionally absent, and try to add one. Whereas if we use a placeholder symbol, chosen because it has official existence yet is only used in one rather obscure location, they're more likely to leave it be. Plus at this point it's kind of a "thing" of ours; more experienced readers understand how we use it and will get confused if it suddenly disappears without replacement. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 19:25, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
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| ::Well, even if we need a placeholder, it shouldn't be the Special Stages symbol because that was used for the Melee Battlefield and that is not related to the universes we use this symbol for. Maybe a blank symbol would be better? And if someone thinks a symbol is missing we can add a hidden note to tell them that the universe doesn't have a symbol. It's more confusing to see Melee's Battlefield having the same symbol as the minor universes. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 01:05, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :::Blank is no better than "none" in my opinion, and it's best to not rely on hidden notes. And in a way, the symbol could very well be how Melee handles ''all'' "other" elements; we just don't now for sure because there's only one. I don't really think it's worth changing. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Undirigible 18:43, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
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| ::::But Melee didn't use that for all "other" elements. Melee used it for Battlefield which was a Smash Bros original stage. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 22:33, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :::::Hey, what about that music note? That seems like a good placeholder because in Brawl's music test, that was what's spinning in the place of the series symbol for other songs. And the [https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/sound/index.html official site's music index] had that note as the series symbol for two songs: Galaga Medley and Noisy Notebook. That music symbol has actually been used for minor series, unlike our eight-slice symbol that was used for one stage that should have used the Smash symbol. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 01:22, 18 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :Now we have symbol of other, at Sound Test in SSBU.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 05:54, 19 December 2018 (EST)
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| ::Yeah, the ellipses was even seen on primary spirits in World of Light. I think we have a symbol that should be used now that is a much better placeholder than Battlefield's symbol. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 01:05, 14 January 2019 (EST)
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| == SSBU icons ==
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| SSBU apparently has an "Others" symbol (represented by 3 dots, can be seen on the "Others" music category) and a Mii symbol (the word "Mii", only seen in StreetPass Mii Plaza-related spirits). --[[User:GarfLarf|<span style="color:orange">'''Garf'''</span><span style="color:cyan">Larf</span>]] 15:54, 20 December 2018 (EST)
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| == Use "Other" symbol replace "SpecialStages" symbol ==
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| The SpecialStages symbol has no reason to represent the minor universes from the beginning, and we now have real Other symbol.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 21:41, 6 January 2019 (EST)
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| :I disagree that we have a "real other symbol", mostly because the only place the newest game uses it is for music, continuing to use nothing at all in other contexts (such as spirit series). And even if we did, there's an argument to be made that we shouldn't "backport" its usage to previous games where the symbol didn't exist. My personal opinion is that there's no reason to change our policy. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Sphere 06:39, 10 January 2019 (EST)
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| ::The symbol also uses in Primary Spirits when change Spirits at Spirit Battle. I don't think the "SpecialStages" symbol more reasonable than this symbol, and "SpecialStages" symbol also didn't exist in SSB，Brawl and SSB4.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 11:49, 11 January 2019 (EST)
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| :::Well, if you want to make that argument, then neither did the Other symbol. We just always kind of used it to indicate that there was no symbol for something (i.e., an Assist Trophy from a non-major universe). That said, I have to agree with Toomai; there's no real reason to universally use it in the games that didn't use it. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: #FFD700;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: #FFD700;">'''the Celebratory Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:49, 11 January 2019 (EST)
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| :::Wait, where does it do that? I haven't seen it in Spirits; I've seen it in music only. That said, I do on the whole agree with you that we should use it rather than Special Stages. I don't agree with the argument that it doesn't make sense to use it for previous games because the symbol only exists in Ultimate, because we have to consider the alternative that we're comparing it to, which is the Special Stages symbol from Melee. The "only exists in one game" argument could be applied just as well to that. And, on the whole, between the two, Other makes more sense. [[User:Sniffnoy|Sniffnoy]] ([[User talk:Sniffnoy|talk]]) 13:38, 11 January 2019 (EST)
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| ::::Only in the Party at before '''Spirit Battles''', the symbol can seenin the Primary Spirit's image if it is the minor universes Spirit.--[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 21:18, 11 January 2019 (EST)
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| :::::Even if you argue that only Melee used the shattered disc and that only Ultimate used the three dots, you have to consider the fact that the shattered disc was used for a Smash original stage where the Smash Ball symbol would have been more appropriate, and the three dots in Ultimate were actually used for minor universe stuff. I believe the three dots should replace the Special Stages symbol so that Melee's Battlefield doesn't get mixed in with the minor universes. Battlefield was never an "Other" property. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 14:41, 13 January 2019 (EST)
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| == "All" symbol ==
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| Would this count as a symbol? Its in the music section of SSBU: https://i.gyazo.com/7eeef120de50097d0e12a7629ae35fb2.png --[[Special:Contributions/71.255.106.45|71.255.106.45]] 02:04, 10 January 2019 (EST)
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| :No I don't think so, partly because it's not treated as a symbol in-game (or at least the "all symbols" rips on the Spriters' Resource don't include it). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Sphere 06:39, 10 January 2019 (EST)
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| == Should the special stages symbol’s section have an explanation of it being our non-Ultimate “other” symbol? ==
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| Newer users will be confused as to why the special stages symbol is going to be used instead of the ellipsis, as shown from the giant debate over which one to use. So, should there at least be an explanation as to why the “improper” symbol is used on everything except the disimbaguation page (which really should have the same symbol as the pages on that disambiguation, but oh well.) [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 03:39, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| :It's generally incorrect to refer to SmashWiki itself in articles, and that would be no exception. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Producer 08:36, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| ::If that’s the case, is it fine if I add a “commented out” (whatever the note that tells users not to add something in is called) footbote on ONLY the following pages (which do not have any spirits or are present in another related spirit at all in Ultimate): [[Gil]], [[Lloyd Irving]], [[Heihachi]], [[Proximity Mine]], [[Cloaking Device]], [[Bacura]], [[Sneaky Spirit]], [[Jacky]], [[Pooka]], and [[Monster Hunter]], stating that the symbol is for characters and items that do not have Spirits, and that the symbol should stay the same on only those pages? [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:29, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::There is no need to provide such notes for edits that are not commonplace. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Jiggy 13:26, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| ::::This is never going to end is it? There is no problem using the ellipsis, more people in the debate wanted the ellipsis, and it's been used in-game for a lot of minor universes. I think the consensus should be re-evaluated. If the discussion won't end after you closed it, maybe something's not working. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 16:55, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::::With all due respect, this was never a problem until you made it a problem. The same two or three users trying to drag this subject over multiple pages does not look good on you (plural you). I strongly suggest you (plural you) drop the subject for a good length of time. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Ghostbuster 17:02, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| ::::::I'm confused. Was this settled anywhere? I just saw a brief discussion on this page with no consensus reached and nobody bothering to do anything aftewards. In any case... surely getting things right matters more than people being annoying about it? Like, I have no idea whether I'm included in the "you" you mention above or not (having made the pro-ellipsis argument here on this page, but not, as I recall, elsewhere), and it's just, like, man, what a way to shut down argument, right? Like, well, gee, now I guess nobody can argue for this because a few of its proponents were annoying? But that has nothing to do with whether the idea is correct or not! You say "this was never a problem until you made it a problem", but we have to clarify what's meant by "problem" here. It was never a point of contention until someone made it a point of contention, sure. But from the point of view of being as correct as possible, it was as soon as the ellipsis symbol came into existence and we weren't using it! (At least, if you agree that the ellipsis symbol would be better, which you don't, I guess, but you get what I mean.) The point is, a problem is the wiki not being as good as possible -- not people getting into arguments about it! What else is a discussion page for, after all? I mean, I'll certainly agree that trying to put this sort of thing in the wiki itself, or dragging it across multiple pages (I'll take your word that this happened), is not good behavior, but, rather than banning the subject, surely it would make more sense to just confine it to one central discussion location (such as here) where it would make sense? And then everyone who doesn't want to argue about this can just stay away. [[User:Sniffnoy|Sniffnoy]] ([[User talk:Sniffnoy|talk]]) 18:56, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::::::Most of the discussion occurred on [[Template talk:Symbol|this other page]], not here. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Trumpeteer 18:58, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| ::::::::Most of the conversation is [[Template talk:Symbol/Archive 1|here]], however. Don't start up the conversation again. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 19:01, 17 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::::::::It should be safe to restart that discussion in a month or two, due to the amount of new users that will come here. However, currently, anybody who adds to that page will be banned for disruption. I made the point that if the disimbaguation pages for spirits use the ellipsis, then so should the Assist Trophies who have Spirits as well (especially since the ellipsis is only used for Ultimate-related contexts, which Assist Trophies with Spirits fully are), but that was instantly shot down, so just roll with the “consensus” for now. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 16:17, 18 February 2019 (EST)
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| == New Stage Builder symbol ==
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| [https://miketendo64.com/2019/04/21/guide-how-to-download-stages-in-super-smash-bros-ultimate/ Look at he image]. I’m pretty sure this counts as a series symbol, similarly to the special stages symbol and Smash 4’s stage builder symbol, correct? [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 18:45, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
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| == Dragon Quest Symbol ==
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| People have been adding the Slime symbol, or "The Mark of Erdrick", to all the ''Dragon Quest'' pages. However, the series symbol for The Hero, and therefor ''Dragon Quest'' as a whole, uses a [https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/fighter/72.html completely different symbol]. (Its probably a symbol that represents the main ''Dragon Quest'' hero's game rather than his series as a whole, like with Joker's) Is the Slime symbol only being used as a placeholder? [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 14:27, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| :It shouldn't be used in the first place. That symbol was a placeholder for the Dragon Quest NIWA Wiki. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 14:28, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| ::Exactly! I think someone might have jumped the gun and assumed. [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 14:30, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| :<small>(edit conflict)</small> Correct. It just so happens that the symbol has a filename of what we would use (DragonQuestSymbol.svg), which will be updated in the future. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 14:29, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| ::So that's what it was. [[User:Wolff| Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 14:31, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| ::IT'S STILL THE SLIME <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SwampSnook|SwampSnook]] ([[User talk:SwampSnook|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SwampSnook|contribs]]) 17:21, June 11, 2019 (EDT)</small>
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| :::Clear your cache. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:21, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| ::::{{rollover|Ctrl|Command on Mac|y}}+Shift+R fixes this. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:24, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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| == Undertale icon ==
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| I realized something when I someone pointed it out on Twitter: this official video preview for the Megalovania remix in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'' has it's own icon, in the form of a heart, which represents the player's SOUL in the game ''Undertale''. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDKcuLxxZg You can see the video here (it's unlisted).] Has this icon been spotted in-game? Should we include this in the article otherwise? - [[User:BrawlMatt202|BrawlMatt202]] ([[User talk:BrawlMatt202|talk]]) 22:17, September 6, 2019 (EDT)
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| :We've chosen not to put it in since it's not actually in the game, and even if it was, Undertale doesn't have much representation and including the symbol wouldn't be justifiable (since symbols are usually given to major universes). We chose to do something similar with the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APSRqnT8hvo Snipperclips remix], which similarly features a music note as its symbol; while said symbol is actually in the game, it isn't used to represent any universes. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:26, September 6, 2019 (EDT)
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| ::Also, that video's a fake. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:28, September 6, 2019 (EDT)
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| :::So it is... my bad. :( - [[User:BrawlMatt202|BrawlMatt202]] ([[User talk:BrawlMatt202|talk]]) 22:31, September 6, 2019 (EDT)
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| ==Assist Trophy icon==
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| Does it even count? If so, is there a way to get a gray version of it? [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 22:40, March 14, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Not sure, but I found the .svg in the official website, change to gray and upload it. [[User:Six|Six]] ([[User talk:Six|talk]]) 08:15, March 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| ==Does the spirits logo count as a series symbol?==
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| [https://i.imgur.com/4T5GluM_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium This symbol]. If the World of Light and Assist trophy icons count as series symbols, so should this. This is even more prevalent than either of those. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 16:43, May 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Using the minor universe symbols in tables ==
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| So there is a bit of a conflict going on if tables should include the minor universes symbols. [[Mii Costume]], [[Alternate costume (SSB4)/Mii Fighter]], and [[Alternate costume (SSBU)/Mii Fighter]] omit them but some pages like [[Downloadable content (SSBU)]] use them. Please discuss here instead of edit warring. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<small><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></small>]]'''</span> 16:23, May 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| :I don't want to cause drama again, I just want them to be consistent, and I just personally feel that it looks better without them in tables. Infoboxes, the minor universe symbol should stay. I'm not starting that argument again. Just do what you want for tables, as long as it's consistent across different pages. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 18:11, May 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::It would be consistent either way. [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 19:40, May 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Galeem Symbol ==
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| Where is this symbol used in-game? [[User:Shadow2|Shadow2]] ([[User talk:Shadow2|talk]]) 06:49, April 25, 2021 (EDT)
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| :On the icon for Adventure Mode, next to "Save Data" in Adventure Mode save files, and in Help under How to Play and Mode Guide. Those are the ones I'm aware of. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 09:09, April 25, 2021 (EDT)
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