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== Alright, Leaked Dev Build; Knuckle, Lyn, and Isaac playable, with only Isaac being unfinished. New costumes included as well. == | == Alright, Leaked Dev Build; Knuckle, Lyn, and Isaac playable, with only Isaac being unfinished. New costumes included as well. == | ||
What do we do about this? Do we acknowledge it? Do we make pages for Knuckles and Lyn? It is 100% legitimate, it comes from | What do we do about this? Do we acknowledge it? Do we make pages for Knuckles and Lyn? It is 100% legitimate, it comes from Wiiztech himself that it's legit. | ||
Additionally, do we note that Sami from Advance Wars and Skull Kid from Majora's Mask were planned to be in the game before it ceased development? | Additionally, do we note that Sami from Advance Wars and Skull Kid from Majora's Mask were planned to be in the game before it ceased development? | ||
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Or do we ignore all of this information? | Or do we ignore all of this information? | ||
Relevant links: [https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3v3ipo/project_m_has_ceased_development/ Context for PM's cancellation for those out of the loop], [https://www.reddit.com/r/NewPMDT/comments/3v5710/wiiztec_former_pmdt_ama/cxkgnmf | Relevant links: [https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3v3ipo/project_m_has_ceased_development/ Context for PM's cancellation for those out of the loop], [https://www.reddit.com/r/NewPMDT/comments/3v5710/wiiztec_former_pmdt_ama/cxkgnmf Wiiztech's AMA where he acknowledges (and essentially confirms) the leak], [https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3v5kpc/two_unreleased_pm_characters_issac_sami/ Footage of Isaac and Sami], [https://www.reddit.com/r/NewPMDT/comments/3v6co7/dev_build_discovery_thread/ Best collection of info I could find about the dev build], [https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3v58lc/knuckles_lyn_isaac_sami_and_possibly_skull_kid/ Confirmation of Isaac, Sami, and Skull Kid from a different dev], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87NjPQge3Iw Old Footage of Knuckles and Lyn]. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:19, 2 December 2015 (EST) | ||
:I'd say mention Knuckles, Lyn, and Isaac in the article, maybe include them in an "unfinished characters" section of the character table or something. I'm ''very'' iffy on pages; IMO it should depend on whether a widely-accepted tribute version of Project M is created. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:37, 2 December 2015 (EST) | :I'd say mention Knuckles, Lyn, and Isaac in the article, maybe include them in an "unfinished characters" section of the character table or something. I'm ''very'' iffy on pages; IMO it should depend on whether a widely-accepted tribute version of Project M is created. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:37, 2 December 2015 (EST) | ||
::I am honestly going to be pushing in the near future to condense our Project M character pages into something more like a fleshed-out, prose version of [[Brawl-/Character changes]]. The "leaked" characters could share a section at the bottom of such a page. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:12, 2 December 2015 (EST) | ::I am honestly going to be pushing in the near future to condense our Project M character pages into something more like a fleshed-out, prose version of [[Brawl-/Character changes]]. The "leaked" characters could share a section at the bottom of such a page. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:12, 2 December 2015 (EST) | ||
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:::I see your point, but I fail to see why the community is just passing by several completed characters. If people want PM to survive, it needs to offer something the other games don't have. "Balance" is not that thing, despite what that tier list may suggest. When was the last time a major PM tourney was played? If there was one, I probably would have heard of it. I'm aware of Shots Fired 2, but who knows what version of PM they'll use, and they announced the event before PM development was ended. The way I see it, anybody's opinion on what is tournament legal and what is not is just as valuable as anybody else's. Do you understand what I'm trying to get at? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 22:56, 1 January 2016 (EST) | :::I see your point, but I fail to see why the community is just passing by several completed characters. If people want PM to survive, it needs to offer something the other games don't have. "Balance" is not that thing, despite what that tier list may suggest. When was the last time a major PM tourney was played? If there was one, I probably would have heard of it. I'm aware of Shots Fired 2, but who knows what version of PM they'll use, and they announced the event before PM development was ended. The way I see it, anybody's opinion on what is tournament legal and what is not is just as valuable as anybody else's. Do you understand what I'm trying to get at? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 22:56, 1 January 2016 (EST) | ||
:::I've given this some thought. PMDT only wants us to play the last "official" version. [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|So why don't we?]] Everyone's definition on what is "official" is differs when it comes to modding. You could argue that nothing is. That's part of the reason I think it wouldn't hurt to scale back on some of the PM content. I have an idea on some stuff that is unnecessary on the character pages, namely the update histories. However, waiting until Shots Fired 2 might be wise. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 00:30, 2 January 2016 (EST) | :::I've given this some thought. PMDT only wants us to play the last "official" version. [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|So why don't we?]] Everyone's definition on what is "official" is differs when it comes to modding. You could argue that nothing is. That's part of the reason I think it wouldn't hurt to scale back on some of the PM content. I have an idea on some stuff that is unnecessary on the character pages, namely the update histories. However, waiting until Shots Fired 2 might be wise. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 00:30, 2 January 2016 (EST) | ||