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| ::::::::::Calling an argument you dislike a strawman doesn't make it one. You were the one claiming "practically every person who plays Smash is "expecting" them to appear", but now you say it isn't a question of a fan prediction? You say that official confirmation would be needed for anything except this? You're sidestepping the point: you're making a faulty exception for a case where it is not fitting with the standards for appropriate reporting on an unreleased game. If it's about an unreleased game, we need confirmation, period. It's a simple case of us needing to wait until we know for sure one way or the other. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:50, 7 August 2013 (EDT) | | ::::::::::Calling an argument you dislike a strawman doesn't make it one. You were the one claiming "practically every person who plays Smash is "expecting" them to appear", but now you say it isn't a question of a fan prediction? You say that official confirmation would be needed for anything except this? You're sidestepping the point: you're making a faulty exception for a case where it is not fitting with the standards for appropriate reporting on an unreleased game. If it's about an unreleased game, we need confirmation, period. It's a simple case of us needing to wait until we know for sure one way or the other. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:50, 7 August 2013 (EDT) |
| :::::::::::I've lost interest in continuing this discussion because you're failing to do anything beyond repeat the same points over and over, but I have to clarify what I meant when I said you strawmanned. The issue is not whether or not it's a fan prediction; it inarguably is. However, just because we mention one quite obvious "prediction" does not somehow make it true that we're all of a sudden in the business of "explaining fan predictions". We're not even explaining; we're stating, and this is a single isolated case. | | :::::::::::I've lost interest in continuing this discussion because you're failing to do anything beyond repeat the same points over and over, but I have to clarify what I meant when I said you strawmanned. The issue is not whether or not it's a fan prediction; it inarguably is. However, just because we mention one quite obvious "prediction" does not somehow make it true that we're all of a sudden in the business of "explaining fan predictions". We're not even explaining; we're stating, and this is a single isolated case. |
| :::::::::::Also, a couple users on IRC wanted me to mention the fact that Sakurai did mention he was considering Mewtwo's new form for a playable appearance. I didn't think that qualified as a good enough example and figured you already knew about it, but there you go. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 15:01, 7 August 2013 (EDT) | | ::::::::::::Also, a couple users on IRC wanted me to mention the fact that Sakurai did mention he was considering Mewtwo's new form for a playable appearance. I didn't think that qualified as a good enough example and figured you already knew about it, but there you go. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 15:01, 7 August 2013 (EDT) |
| ::::::::::::Complete with links= http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/34700 <span style="font-family:Sketch1">[[User:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:green">Megi</span>]][[User talk:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:black">Beelzebub</span>]]</span> [[File:MegiBeelzebub.png|19px]] 15:04, 7 August 2013 (EDT)
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| <small>indent reset</small> That information would be fine if explained on the Mewtwo page with a citation. Regardless, though, since Dr. Pain and I seem to be stuck in a disagreement, could other folks please weigh in? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:27, 7 August 2013 (EDT)
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| :If it says that they are expected, that doesn't mean it's saying that they are definitely going to appear, and this reflects a view amongst the community, so I think it's acceptable. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 20:32, 7 August 2013 (EDT)
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| ::Mentioning that they're expected just seems a bit pointless in the first place. I don't really care whether it stays or goes, I just don't see why it was added in the first place. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:42, 7 August 2013 (EDT)
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| :I'm of the opinion that there's no need to bring up things like this when there isn't very much that is officially confirmed. No doubt sooner or later we're going to see a Pokeball or a stage background appear, and then we can have it in the article. Otherwise we are speculating, especially when it comes to Gen 6 matters. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 13:37, 8 August 2013 (EDT)
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| ::I strongly disagree with the "especially when it comes to Gen 6 matters". You're telling me that it's arguable that they won't at least make an appearance as a trophy? Gen VI is going to be out for almost a year before Smash 4 at least. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 17:42, 8 August 2013 (EDT)
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| ==Dedenne==
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| Why do you think he isn't a Pokéball Pokémon? It's not a playable character, it's on the Punch Out stage, so it can't be a stage element. What else can it be? [[Special:Contributions/84.26.240.80|84.26.240.80]] 14:00, 14 March 2014 (EDT)
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| == Pokemon Trainer = Gen 3, not Gen 1 ==
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| He uses his FRLG appearance. I think he's Gen 3. (There's a trivia note about it, so) [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta Butta]] ([[User talk:Nutta Butta|talk]]) 20:59, 13 July 2014 (EDT)
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| :"Most playable Pokémon...". If you're referring to that trivia line, then you've got your answer. PT is not a Pokémon. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 21:18, 13 July 2014 (EDT)
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| == Trophies in the universe pages; minimizing unnecessary text ==
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| Personally, I think having embedded links for individual trophies is a misuse of space. It makes the article bigger than it needs to be. All of the trophies of characters and items in Smash are already elaborated on above. All of the "series related" trophies are just cameos. If people are curious on who these characters and objects are, I left a "Main article" link at the top of the Trophies section for that exact reason. These links don't add anything to the article. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:15, 27 July 2018 (EDT)
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| == Red and Blue ==
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| Should it’s first game be called by it’s American or Japanese name? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 19:50, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
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| :We use the English names for everything, so leave it be. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 21:12, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
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| == First game ==
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| What’s so different between Red and Green and Red and Blue other then name change, date change (that’s like saying Earthbound Beginnings and Mother 1 are different games because of the name change) and that Blastoise represents Blue and Venusaur represents Green? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 22:15, November 18, 2019 (EST)
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| :It's kinda complicated to explain, but the reason why ''Red and Green'' aren considered separate games than ''Red and Blue'' is because the latter is a mix of all the three Japanese Gen 1 games (excluding ''Yellow'', of course). It has the Pokémon selection of ''Red and Green'', but the graphics and layout changes of Japanese ''Blue''. [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 22:29, November 18, 2019 (EST)
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| ::To add on, the Blue version released in Japan is the Red and Blue versions released outside of Japan. Red and Green are the original Generation 1 games. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:37, November 18, 2019 (EST)
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| :::Also EarthBound Beginnings and Mother are considered somewhat different because several maps have a very different layout, all towns have different names, many enemy sprites were changed, and there are a lot more changes too. Also run button. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 23:04, November 18, 2019 (EST)
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| :Simply put, the Japanese ''Red'' and ''Green'' came first, then the Japanese ''Blue'' came out with bug fixes and additions (think like ''Crystal'' compared to ''Gold'' and ''Silver''), which then was split into the international ''Red'' and ''Blue''. For clarity's sake, they're referred to as separate games even though they're very similar. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 23:12, November 18, 2019 (EST)
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| ==Generation receptions==
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| Is it really worth having it on this page, when it's not even remotely related to Smash and barely reflective of the community to begin with? - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 14:28, January 25, 2020 (EST)
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