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:::It's not restricted to only being official, but considering how other multi-named special moves were also recently moved (Hero's, Joker's, etc.), there is no reason to not follow suit here. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 00:10, December 23, 2020 (EST)
:::It's not restricted to only being official, but considering how other multi-named special moves were also recently moved (Hero's, Joker's, etc.), there is no reason to not follow suit here. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 00:10, December 23, 2020 (EST)
::::The Joker ones are pretty egregious and should probably be simplified back to their base versions as well. Nothing of value is lost in having this page be simply titled "Omnislash". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:13, December 23, 2020 (EST)
::::The Joker ones are pretty egregious and should probably be simplified back to their base versions as well. Nothing of value is lost in having this page be simply titled "Omnislash". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:13, December 23, 2020 (EST)
:::::I'll give this change being purely aesthetic as a good reason to keep this one the way it is, but the Joker ones absolutely should stay the way they are, since those changes are not aesthetic, and moving them back would be the egregious option in my opinion. If there is a functional difference at all, then there is no fine line between what should and should not have slashes in their titles, and it would just be better and more consistent to put slashes in every multi-special move where they actually have different functions instead of thinking about arbitrary values of what counts as major or minor. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 00:31, December 23, 2020 (EST)
::::Adding onto this, I brought up a reason not to: the difference in the move is purely aesthetic and doesn't affect gameplay, compared to other multi-name moves where there is a gameplay difference. This was the main reason for differentiating Gun and Gun Special, for example. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 00:16, December 23, 2020 (EST)
::::Adding onto this, I brought up a reason not to: the difference in the move is purely aesthetic and doesn't affect gameplay, compared to other multi-name moves where there is a gameplay difference. This was the main reason for differentiating Gun and Gun Special, for example. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 00:16, December 23, 2020 (EST)


'''Strongly oppose'''. The slashes are the most obnoxious thing in titles and it is mostly unnecessary anyway but is definitely not necessary here. They're both Omnislash. [[SW:NOT|We don't gotta do stupid things because the game does 'em.]] [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 00:23, December 23, 2020 (EST)
'''Strongly oppose'''. The slashes are the most obnoxious thing in titles and it is mostly unnecessary anyway but is definitely not necessary here. They're both Omnislash. [[SW:NOT|We don't gotta do stupid things because the game does 'em.]] [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 00:23, December 23, 2020 (EST)
:'''Oppose:''' Honestly, I think those moves with the slashes should be split because they're different moves mapped to the same input. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 19:25, December 23, 2020 (EST)
'''Strongly oppose''', It's kinda pointless because both are Omnislash, and it's just an aesthetic change [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 19:45, December 23, 2020 (EST)
yeah i '''oppose''' for the same reasons above as it is a asthetic change [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color: Red; 0px">S3AHAWK</span>]] [[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color:Lime;">The Festive One</span>'']][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] 20:21, December 23, 2020 (EST)
''''Yeah, I already moved it. -[[User:CirbyoKieeb|CirbyoKieeb]] ([[User talk:CirbyoKieeb|talk]]) 21:00, December 23, 2020 (EST)
'''Support'''. Aesthetic change or not, [[SmashWiki is not official]] or whatever, I'm of the camp that we should be referring to moves as they are in the game's move list. <s>At the very least, we should have a redirect for Omnislash Ver. 5.</s> I see that we already have that redirect, but we still should be renaming this page. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 21:25, December 23, 2020 (EST)
:My thoughts exactly. (I already voiced my support.) [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 22:48, December 23, 2020 (EST)
'''Strong oppose'''. I'll be making a forum post discussing the handling of stuff like this in general soon (probably not too soon because of Christmas, but relatively soon) to explain my full reasoning, but the short of it is that not even the damages or knockback change; it's literally the same exact move, just with a different coat of paint. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:34, December 24, 2020 (EST)
At the very least, we should just upload a gif of Omnislash Ver. 5 to show readers the aesthetic differences if they don't know what it looks like. [[User:Diddy Kongstar|Diddy Kongstar]] ([[User talk:Diddy Kongstar|talk]]) 16:42, December 24, 2020 (EST)
'''Oppose'''. I feel like this is on the same vein as Peach/Daisy Blossom in that aside from animation/aesthetic differences it's the same move (It's a variation of Omnislash, deals same damage, etc.). [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 13:02, December 31, 2020 (EST)
== Is Omnislash V5 the only attack with non-cosmetic attack differences between alts? ==
I know Captain Falcon had a very slight width difference between his Melee alts or something but seeing as Cloud's Omnislash V5 used through half his alts seems to have more slight differences to the regular Final Smash that aren't just cosmetic but are technically different in the attack field, is this the only instance of an attack being different beyond cosmetics between alt costumes?

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