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==Design==
Should we note that Mewtwo keeps its more angular eyes and "horn-less" chestplate from its design in ''Pokémon: The First Movie''? These are features that most game sprites/models of Mewtwo don't have, and even Mewtwo in ''Melee'' had the "horn" in its chestplate.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 00:53, 25 October 2014 (EDT)
:Comparing against [http://veekun.com/dex/media/pokemon/cropped/150.png its XY model], I'm not really seeing the distinction you're making. It looks like standard Gen 6 Mewtwo to me. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:58, 25 October 2014 (EDT)
::That's a really tiny image; the XY model's rounder eyes are more obvious in Pokémon-Amie videos and the like. Mewtwo's SSB4 model closely resembles the D-Arts Mewtwo action figure (partly based on the movie), apart from the chestplate.[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 15:33, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
:::Can you provide a better reference image to demonstrate your point? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:38, 26 October 2014 (EDT)
::::[http://31.media.tumblr.com/543bdc4ec13ccd1d4876aa1db2575699/tumblr_n1636mpt7d1rfnwv0o3_r1_1280.png] It isn't the best quality, but it has a weird thing in between Mewtwo's pectorals. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 19:04, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::[http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141025035421/gfaqssb/images/4/46/Mewtwo_comparison.png Here's a better one]. I made it to show that we probably wouldn't be getting the 16th movie's Mewtwo character, and the eye differences should be pretty clear from the picture. [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:53, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

== Where Mewtwo should be. ==

If Mewtwo is considered DLC in this game, then there should be a section called "DLC challengers"? [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 07:13, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:I'm not sure what you mean by section; do you mean category? If yes, I'd say wait until more DLC playable fighters are confirmed. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] Come to Daddy... 07:17, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:Speaking about DLC fighters (though not a place for speculation) I don't think it's just Mewtwo in the works right now, I think more fighters will come to this game. Like maybe fighters that were cut and don't have trophies or Assist Trophies from Brawl that didn't appear or made it in the trophies. [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 12:44, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
::If there are any other DLC characters we might want to add something to the character table to separate them. But if Mewtwo is unique, I think it's kinda pointless. <small>''---Previously unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]]'' </small> 12:56, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:::Are you talking about the SSB4 Character Table Template? I think it's the fine the way it is. We don't have separate sections for starters & unlockables, so I definitely don't think we need one for DLC characters right, especially since Mewtwo is a veteran (and makes the table look so neat now). [[User:Master Zach|Master Zach]] ([[User talk:Master Zach|talk]]) 08:57, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
::::I believe that if we get a high number of DLC characters (i.e. 7-9 or more, 6 could do without) they should get their own section, as it stands now, Mewtwo is the only one we know about, thusly the only one who fits this category, so he's probably not going to get his own little section for now. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 10:26, 30 October 2014 (EDT)
:::::What about using italics for DLC characters instead of "Mewtwo (future DLC)"? [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 09:32, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::::::I think for right now, with Mewtwo being unique, it doesn't matter, and we should keep it as it is. But I think that if they add any more (even one, I think) they should be separated somehow. <small>''---Previously unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]]'' </small> 12:31, 31 October 2014 (EDT)

==Trivia==
Apparently, the Trivia section of this page says "Mewtwo is the first downloadable character of Super Smash Bros. 4.". Is this really necessary? Anyone with even a small knowledge of the Super Smash Bros. series would be aware of this already, so I wouldn't think this deserves the spot in the ''Trivia'' section. [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 16:15, 29 October 2014 (EDT)
:Should we add that Mewtwo' s hand (or an unwebbed greninja hand) was shown in the greninja trailer? [[User:1blitzer1|1blitzer1]] ([[User talk:1blitzer1|talk]]) 23:09, 3 November 2014 (EST)
::Short answer: no. It's not notable enough, nor is it Mewtwo's. <span style="background-color:orange;border:2px solid blue;border-radius:7px;">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:yellow">'''Rtzxy'''</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:brown">'''''Reflect!!!'''</span>]]</span> 23:10, 3 November 2014 (EST)
:::@OP: Yeah, I would just remove that immediately. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 23:14, 3 November 2014 (EST)

::::No, it's not his, but should we put that it looked like mewtwo' s hand, but wasn't? Or should we put the whole 'non-webbed band's thing in greninja' s trivia? [[User:1blitzer1|1blitzer1]] ([[User talk:1blitzer1|talk]]) 19:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)

== Changes From Melee ==

We should put that the design is now more like mainstream pokemon games than it was in melee. [[User:1blitzer1|rycbar123]] ([[User talk:1blitzer1|talk]]) 20:12, 4 November 2014 (EST)

:I think we should wait until some of his moveset is confirmed before we make a section or anything, but you can put that in the body, if you can fit it in. I think. [[User:Littlesquirtle|&#32;Littlesquirtle, an average user who doesn&#39;t like his signature.]] ([[User talk:Littlesquirtle|talk]]) 20:19, 4 November 2014 (EST)

::Well, there's already a changes from melee section, so why not put it there? [[User:1blitzer1|rycbar123]] ([[User talk:1blitzer1|talk]]) 23:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::This is a purely aesthetic change, so it goes in the introduction. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 00:09, 5 November 2014 (EST)

== Limited Time? ==
Will Mewtwo be available for a limited time only? I'm worried about that. '''[[User:The Master Hand|<span style="color:#808080;">The Master Hand</span>]]'''—'''''[[User talk:The Master Hand|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">It's time.</span>]]''''' [[File:MasterHandSig.jpg|25px]] 10:38, 28 November 2014 (EST)
:Through Club Nintendo. Yes. Through purchase? We don't know. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 10:59, 28 November 2014 (EST)
::Also this (I'm pretty sure) goes against [[SW:TALK]]. I might be wrong though. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 15:34, 1 December 2014 (EST)
Please read the bottom of the club nintendo page. This information may prove to be... useful... [[User:1blitzer1|<span style="color: purple;">'''1blitzer1'''</span>]] [[User talk:1blitzer1|''<span style="color: green;">(talk)</span>'']] 00:15, 17 December 2014 (EST)
:I mentioned that in the section below, and it may be that the Mewtwo code will only be released during the time period; the code itself would be valid at any other time after Mewtwo's release (if that makes any sense). [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 08:44, 17 December 2014 (EST)

== Mewtwo DLC Release Date ==

Club Nintendo states [http://club2.nintendo.com/smash-promo/ here] that "Mewtwo DLC offer available from 11/20/2014 9:00pm PT to 3/31/2015 11:59pm PT. Limit 1 per customer." Would that imply that Mewtwo is coming out on April 1st? Just a thought. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Smasher'''</span>]] 14:10, 3 December 2014 (EST)
:I don't think it implies anything - that's just the date range for which the offer is valid. They could potentially release Mewtwo during or after the offer period. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brazen 14:13, 3 December 2014 (EST)

It's been confirmed that all codes from Club Nintendo will expire on July 31st, 2015. Do you think this counts as confirmation that the code will be released before July 31st, 2015? I would think it would be released before it expires, lol. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  22:11, 20 January 2015 (EST)
:I think that's a given. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 22:12, 20 January 2015 (EST)

== Status via leak ==

I notice that the infamous roster leak is noted on other characters pages about how they were unveiled, shouldn't the same be said of mewtwo? In that leak mewtwo was listed with a ? next to him, indicating that the leaker was unsure of his inclusion, despite having access to the completed game. This matches up with the info that we have now that mewtwo was intended to be in the game but had to be excluded and finished later to get the game out. I can provide sources for all of this info, if needed. [[Special:Contributions/71.75.136.51|71.75.136.51]] 03:48, 23 January 2015 (EST)