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No. Just no. This is completely a discrimination of rights. It's been stated numerous times that SBF and SW are not to be linked in events like bans, by mods. The same logic should be applied to alliances. You may as well ban talking about Brawl and get sued for discrimination of rights.{{unsigned|Biggie smalls}}
No. Just no. This is completely a discrimination of rights. It's been stated numerous times that SBF and SW are not to be linked in events like bans, by mods. The same logic should be applied to alliances. You may as well ban talking about Brawl and get sued for discrimination of rights.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Biggie smalls|Biggie smalls]] ([[User talk:Biggie smalls|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Biggie smalls|contribs]]) </small>


This crew has done nothing worthy of deletion. It has not once flamed other threads, spammed inconsistently, and has given good arguments and has and it shouldn't be stripped of its wiki page.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ismaR|ismaR]] ([[User talk:ismaR|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ismaR|contribs]]) </small>
This crew has done nothing worthy of deletion. It has not once flamed other threads, spammed inconsistently, and has given good arguments and has and it shouldn't be stripped of its wiki page.{{unsigned|ismaR}}


This is a great wiki page.  I don't see how deleting it will do any good.  It's supporting Dark Samus for Brawl and telling us more about him.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:KraidGuy|KraidGuy]] ([[User talk:KraidGuy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KraidGuy|contribs]]) </small>
This is a great wiki page.  I don't see how deleting it will do any good.  It's supporting Dark Samus for Brawl and telling us more about him.{{unsigned|KraidGuy}}


:''No. Just no. This is completely a discrimination of rights.''
:''No. Just no. This is completely a discrimination of rights.''
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:Whichever moderator(s) said that are completely and totally incorrect, as an admin has stated [[SmashWiki:Pool_Room#SWF_bannings|otherwise]].
:Whichever moderator(s) said that are completely and totally incorrect, as an admin has stated [[SmashWiki:Pool_Room#SWF_bannings|otherwise]].


:''The same logic should be applied to alliances. You may as well ban talking about Brawl and get sued for discrimination of rights.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Biggie smalls|Biggie smalls]] ([[User talk:Biggie smalls|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Biggie smalls|contribs]]) </small>''
:''The same logic should be applied to alliances. You may as well ban talking about Brawl and get sued for discrimination of rights.{{unsigned|Biggie smalls}}''


:First of all, any lawsuit brought against the site would invariably fail as this is a privately-owned website.  You have no "free speech" rights here - the first amendment doesn't apply.  Regardless, forum alliances are '''''not''''' crews: this has been discussed several times and we've come to the consensus that forum alliances should '''NOT''' have entries here.  See Talk:The Rape Staff, Talk:M.M.P.M.A., Talk:Mog squad, Talk:The ♥♪!? Alliance, and Talk:S.S.S.
:First of all, any lawsuit brought against the site would invariably fail as this is a privately-owned website.  You have no "free speech" rights here - the first amendment doesn't apply.  Regardless, forum alliances are '''''not''''' crews: this has been discussed several times and we've come to the consensus that forum alliances should '''NOT''' have entries here.  See [Talk:The Rape Staff]], [[Talk:M.M.P.M.A.]], [[Talk:Mog squad]], [[Talk:The ♥♪!? Alliance]], and [[Talk:S.S.S.]]


:''This crew has done nothing worthy of deletion. It has not once flamed other threads, spammed inconsistently, and has given good arguments and has and it shouldn't be stripped of its wiki page.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ismaR|ismaR]] ([[User talk:ismaR|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ismaR|contribs]]) </small>''
:''This crew has done nothing worthy of deletion. It has not once flamed other threads, spammed inconsistently, and has given good arguments and has and it shouldn't be stripped of its wiki page.{{unsigned|ismaR}}''


:You're making the assumption that an article deletion is a form of punishment; generally, it's a method of removing inappropriate articles, particularly those that aren't quite up to par with SmashWiki standards.  Being a good group of users doesn't award you the right to a Wiki entry if you aren't an actual crew.  If this article is deleted, it's nothing personal (speaking strictly for myself, though I'd imagine the same would apply to whomever may delete this); it just makes no sense for this article to remain when other forum alliance articles have been deleted.
:You're making the assumption that an article deletion is a form of punishment; generally, it's a method of removing inappropriate articles, particularly those that aren't quite up to par with SmashWiki standards.  Being a good group of users doesn't award you the right to a Wiki entry if you aren't an actual crew.  If this article is deleted, it's nothing personal (speaking strictly for myself, though I'd imagine the same would apply to whomever may delete this); it just makes no sense for this article to remain when other forum alliance articles have been deleted.


:''This is a great wiki page.  I don't see how deleting it will do any good.  It's supporting Dark Samus for Brawl and telling us more about him.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:KraidGuy|KraidGuy]] ([[User talk:KraidGuy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KraidGuy|contribs]]) </small>''
:''This is a great wiki page.  I don't see how deleting it will do any good.  It's supporting Dark Samus for Brawl and telling us more about him.{{unsigned|KraidGuy}}''


:Not to be rude, but that really doesn't matter.  Supporting a character does not suddenly make you deserving of a Wiki entry.  The moment you guys actually act as a real crew (and start playing in tournaments representing this group), ''then'' you can have an article; at the moment, however, there's no reason at all for you all to have one.  And when you consider that several other alliances articles have already been deleted for the same reason I flagged this one, it becomes a matter of applying the rules consistently and equally to everyone.  To allow this page to stay when the others were deleted would be completely unfair to the members of those other alliances.  &ndash; [[User:EPX2|<b><i>EP</i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:EPX2|Talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/EPX2|Edits]])</small> 21:37, December 17, 2007 (EST)
:Not to be rude, but that really doesn't matter.  Supporting a character does not suddenly make you deserving of a Wiki entry.  The moment you guys actually act as a real crew (and start playing in tournaments representing this group), ''then'' you can have an article; at the moment, however, there's no reason at all for you all to have one.  And when you consider that several other alliances articles have already been deleted for the same reason I flagged this one, it becomes a matter of applying the rules consistently and equally to everyone.  To allow this page to stay when the others were deleted would be completely unfair to the members of those other alliances.  &ndash; [[User:EPX2|<b><i>EP</i></b>]] <small>([[User talk:EPX2|Talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/EPX2|Edits]])</small> 21:37, December 17, 2007 (EST)
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Who the hell said we aren't going to Brawl Tourneys? Maybe we will, maybe we won't. You should of asked.
Who the hell said we aren't going to Brawl Tourneys? Maybe we will, maybe we won't. You should of asked.


Also, it's quite obviuous that the link between SmashBoards and SmashWiki is why clubs are being banned. The wiki pages for clubs before weren't being banned, but after the Ridley incident they're all being makred for deletion. Some mods even said that SmashBoards and SmashWiki shouldn't be tied in together like with the banning of accounts. Just admit it, the mod crew here is full of hypocrites. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Biggie smalls|Biggie smalls]] ([[User talk:Biggie smalls|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Biggie smalls|contribs]]) </small>
Also, it's quite obviuous that the link between SmashBoards and SmashWiki is why clubs are being banned. The wiki pages for clubs before weren't being banned, but after the Ridley incident they're all being makred for deletion. Some mods even said that SmashBoards and SmashWiki shouldn't be tied in together like with the banning of accounts. Just admit it, the mod crew here is full of hypocrites. {{unsigned|Biggie smalls}}


:''Who the hell said we aren't going to Brawl Tourneys? Maybe we will, maybe we won't. You should of asked.''
:''Who the hell said we aren't going to Brawl Tourneys? Maybe we will, maybe we won't. You should of asked.''
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:''The wiki pages for clubs before weren't being banned, but after the Ridley incident they're all being makred for deletion.''
:''The wiki pages for clubs before weren't being banned, but after the Ridley incident they're all being makred for deletion.''


:Seeing as how I joined just shortly before that whole ridiculous incident, I can't really speak on the community's views on character support group articles.  I was virtually unaware of their existence up until that point.  From what I've seen, I will admit that editors here generally didn't mind these articles.  In fact, in most cases, they were against deleting them.  I personally never understood why some random internet forum alliance offering support for a character was somehow notable enough for an article and I took the opportunity to express my opinions when that Ridley incident unfolded (as you can see Talk:R.I.D.L.E.Y.|here).  Apparently, it turns out that others felt the same way and took the initiative to mark other such entries for deletion; obviously, at least one of the sysops here also agreed, seeing as how every one of those articles was eventually removed.
:Seeing as how I joined just shortly before that whole ridiculous incident, I can't really speak on the community's views on character support group articles.  I was virtually unaware of their existence up until that point.  From what I've seen, I will admit that editors here generally didn't mind these articles.  In fact, in most cases, they were against deleting them.  I personally never understood why some random internet forum alliance offering support for a character was somehow notable enough for an article and I took the opportunity to express my opinions when that Ridley incident unfolded (as you can see [[Talk:R.I.D.L.E.Y.|here]]).  Apparently, it turns out that others felt the same way and took the initiative to mark other such entries for deletion; obviously, at least one of the sysops here also agreed, seeing as how every one of those articles was eventually removed.


:What caused this change in stance on alliance articles?  I couldn't tell you; for what it's worth, more than likely it is due to the Ridley incident.  Whatever the case, that doesn't matter; those articles were deemed acceptable in the past and that is obviously no longer the case - oh, well.
:What caused this change in stance on alliance articles?  I couldn't tell you; for what it's worth, more than likely it is due to the Ridley incident.  Whatever the case, that doesn't matter; those articles were deemed acceptable in the past and that is obviously no longer the case - oh, well.
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You JUST changed your arguement to why this should be deleted when it was established that these alliances were only being removed after the Ridley incident. By the way, I have to correct myself. An '''Admin''' said that in a question and answer thing here, that this place and SmashBoards are not to be affiliated in things like events and bans.  
You JUST changed your arguement to why this should be deleted when it was established that these alliances were only being removed after the Ridley incident. By the way, I have to correct myself. An '''Admin''' said that in a question and answer thing here, that this place and SmashBoards are not to be affiliated in things like events and bans.  


Besides, for all you know we all could of went in a few Melee tourneys The only real reason this was marked for deletion was because it looked like a character alliance, even though really a group of tourneygoers who happened to like Dark Samus. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Biggie smalls|Biggie smalls]] ([[User talk:Biggie smalls|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Biggie smalls|contribs]]) </small>
Besides, for all you know we all could of went in a few Melee tourneys The only real reason this was marked for deletion was because it looked like a character alliance, even though really a group of tourneygoers who happened to like Dark Samus. {{unsigned|Biggie smalls}}


:''You JUST changed your arguement to why this should be deleted when it was established that these alliances were only being removed after the Ridley incident.''
:''You JUST changed your arguement to why this should be deleted when it was established that these alliances were only being removed after the Ridley incident.''

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