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I realize that it's much more common for ボウル to mean "bowl" rather than "ball", but in the ''Kirby'' series specifically, there is precedent for it to be used as an alternate writing of "ball"; we have had long discussions about this in the WiKirby Discord. The main precedent we have to go on here is Taranza's attack names in ''Kirby Star Allies'': タランザボウル and スーパータランザボウル are officially translated as Taranza Ball and Super Taranza Ball, respectively. (There's also the Japanese name of ''Kirby's Dream Course'', カービィボウル, which is [https://twitter.com/mi3_kumo/status/1159845112605626368 officially translated] as "Kirby Ball" in many sources.) The main piece of evidence ''against'' it is Snow Bowl, which is indeed スノーボウル, but is likely intended to be a pun on "snowball" and bowling anyway. Since Ice Ball has no real relation to bowling, and based on Taranza's precedent, it's much more likely to me — and most of the editors at WiKirby — that the intent is "Ice Ball" rather than "Ice Bowl". I just want to say this here to see if it's okay to change without starting an edit war. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 14:59, August 27, 2023 (EDT)
I realize that it's much more common for ボウル to mean "bowl" rather than "ball", but in the ''Kirby'' series specifically, there is precedent for it to be used as an alternate writing of "ball"; we have had long discussions about this in the WiKirby Discord. The main precedent we have to go on here is Taranza's attack names in ''Kirby Star Allies'': タランザボウル and スーパータランザボウル are officially translated as Taranza Ball and Super Taranza Ball, respectively. (There's also the Japanese name of ''Kirby's Dream Course'', カービィボウル, which is [https://twitter.com/mi3_kumo/status/1159845112605626368 officially translated] as "Kirby Ball" in many sources.) The main piece of evidence ''against'' it is Snow Bowl, which is indeed スノーボウル, but is likely intended to be a pun on "snowball" and bowling anyway. Since Ice Ball has no real relation to bowling, and based on Taranza's precedent, it's much more likely to me — and most of the editors at WiKirby — that the intent is "Ice Ball" rather than "Ice Bowl". I just want to say this here to see if it's okay to change without starting an edit war. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 14:59, August 27, 2023 (EDT)
:I think "ball" is better in this context as it is a ball and it isn't rolling like a bowling ball. Searching "ボウル" in Google and Bing yields bowls to eat out of. And "アイスボウル" yields bowls to eat ice cream out of (and at least one case of a ball made of ice). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:07, August 27, 2023 (EDT)
:I think "ball" is better in this context as it is a ball and it isn't rolling like a bowling ball. Searching "ボウル" in Google and Bing yields bowls to eat out of. And "アイスボウル" yields bowls to eat ice cream out of (and at least one case of a ball made of ice). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:07, August 27, 2023 (EDT)
::Yeah, in the vast majority of circumstances ボウル means "bowl" while ボール means "ball". The cases where it's used as "ball" in the ''Kirby'' series appear to be a unique quirk to it. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 23:53, August 27, 2023 (EDT)
:::Very belated reply, but the Taranza Ball thing seems to be an outlier. "Snow Bowl" is translated the same way, and the Ball ability and Laser Ball both use the standard spelling as does practically every other use of "ball" in the entire series (most prominently Kirby's Block Ball), so there's little evidence it's some unique quirk of the Kirby franchise when those all use the standard spelling. I'd hazard a guess Taranza's attack is likely intended to be "Taranza Bowl" as well, and was just romanized that way either because the localization team though it sounded better, or just slightly misromanized it. "Kirby Ball" is anyone's guess, though it very much could just be misromanization, as Kirby's Block Ball uses the normal spelling. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 23:29, June 1, 2024 (EDT)

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