Editing Talk:Mario (SSBU)

Is Mario even as good as his SSB4 incarnation?[[Special:Contributions/152.26.211.26|152.26.211.26]] 01:17, 29 December 2018 (EST)

==Archive==
Can we archive this April Fools version or something somehow, I can't stop laughing at this. [[User:SammyTFM|SammyTFM]] ([[User talk:SammyTFM|talk]]) 13:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT)

The edits will always be available if you look at the "history" section of the page. You can also archive the page on the wayback machine. [[User:SuperSqank|SuperSqank]] ([[User talk:SuperSqank|talk]]) 13:23, April 1, 2019 (EDT)

==Dash attack's new animation==
Correct me if i'm wrong, but dash attack has a new animation, and Mario's head and stomach are positioned lower, while his legs are more extended compared to the new animation. The ''Changes'' section said that it doesn't lower the hurtbox as much, but the animation seems to suggest otherwise, so i think the animation is misleading. If that's not true, i suggest in comparing the hurtboxes for both animations and give an explanation, because it's not clear. [[Special:Contributions/82.55.50.131|82.55.50.131]] 11:01, December 4, 2019 (EST)

== Anyone wants to give a name to Mario's Fsmash? ==

I was just thinking about what names we should give it. [[User:MarcosP|MarcosP]] ([[User talk:MarcosP|talk]]) 14:03, January 12, 2020 (EST)
:Yeah, those sections are only to add names if they receive one by official means, such as trophy descriptions or the in-game [[tips]]. If they don't have one, they should be left blank. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 14:05, January 12, 2020 (EST)
Fire Glove is what it was called in melee and never changed. But since Nintendo has only released Melee Prima Guide, it's considered to "not" of officially from Nintendo. Thus only a few name are moves for every character.

==Need of video==
Consensus: Is it necessary to include Mario’s on-screen appearance as a gif? [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 17:20, April 28, 2020 (EDT)

== New Fighter's ==

Goomba, Freddy Faz Bear, Among us Crewmate, Lego Character, Koopa Troopa, Santa Clause, Ginger Bread Man, Creeper, King Bomb-Bomb, Kamek, Garfield the fat cat, Elmo, King Mario, Blooper, Funkey Kong, Mickey Mouse, Noob From Roblox,

These Are Just Some Idea's for New Character's <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Richardchestnut|Richardchestnut]] ([[User talk:Richardchestnut|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richardchestnut|contribs]]) 21:16, December 5, 2020 (EST)</small>
:This is improper usage of a talk page. See [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 20:38, January 20, 2021 (EST)

== Appearances in other Classic Mode routes ==

I've been kinda thinking about it, do you think there should be a section for every character that shows the character's appearance(s) in other characters' Classic Mode routes. This is a sample chart that could be used for each character. [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 16:12, March 9, 2021 (EST)
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Character!!Round!!Stage!!Music!!Costume!!Other characters!!Notes
|-
|{{Head|Donkey Kong|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Donkey Kong}} || 6 || [[New Donk City Hall]] || ''{{SSBUMusicLink|Super Mario Bros.|New Donk City}}''|| {{Head|Mario|g=SSBU|s=50px}} || {{Head|Luigi|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Luigi}} ||
|-
|{{Head|Dark Samus|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Dark Samus}} || 5 || [[Princess Peach's Castle]] || ''{{SSBUMusicLink|Super Mario Bros.|Main Theme - Luigi's Mansion (Brawl)}}'' || {{Head|Mario|g=SSBU|s=50px}} || {{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Peach}}<br>{{Head|Daisy|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Daisy}} || This battle is a free-for-all.
|-
|{{Head|Bowser|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Bowser}} || Final || [[New Donk City Hall]] ([[Ω form]]) || ''{{SSBUMusicLink|Super Mario Bros.|Ground Theme (Band Performance) - Super Mario Bros.}}'' || {{Head|Mario|g=SSBU|s=50px}} || [[Metal Mario]] || After Mario is defeated, Metal Mario appears.
|-
|{{Head|Ice Climbers|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Ice Climbers}} || 6 || [[Princess Peach's Castle]] || ''{{SSBUMusicLink|Super Mario Bros.|Main Theme - New Super Mario Bros.}}''|| {{Head|Mario|g=SSBU|s=50px}} || {{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=30px}}{{SSBU|Peach}} ||
|}

==Wi-Fi Warrior Mario==
I have heard of a Wi-Fi Warrior named Nao who likes to play as Mario in his/her tournaments. Is he/she the same as the [[Smasher:nao (Ultimate) |Japanese Palutena player]]? Is he/she notable enough to be included in this article? [[User:Daniel1204|Daniel1204]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Daniel1204|talk page]]) 23:30, April 17, 2021 (EDT)

==Moveset names==
I see that the attacks of Mario’s moveset have been given names similarly to {{SSBU|Sonic}}’s article (e.g.: forward tilt is named “middle kick”). I am confused why they are there on both articles. If anyone knows a source for those names, please reply with a link to the source. Thanks in advance. [[User:Daniel1204|Daniel1204]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Daniel1204|talk page]]) 11:56, October 17, 2021 (EDT)
:They are sourced from a [https://smashwiki.info Japanese wiki] which sources it from [https://books.famitsu-dengeki.com/product/321807000664.html a guide book]. This book was advertised by the [https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/1088602351299162112 official Japanese Smash Twitter] account and was effectively deemed [[Talk:Galeem#Boss_move_names|official]] by wiki standards and it was decided we use [[Forum:Move_names|Japanese translations]] from official sources. [https://smashwiki.info/マリオ_(SP)/ワザ Here's Mario page] on that wiki. I have the guide book on-hand and can confirm that "{{ja|ミドルキック|Midorukikku}}" (middle kick) is what is listed. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:19, October 17, 2021 (EDT)
::I've noticed that not every character has been updated with the translations of the japanese move names, is that something thats gonna be added in the future or is there a reason they haven't been added? because i figured i'd help add the translations. [[User:Luigi86101|Luigi86101]] ([[User talk:Luigi86101|talk]]) 15:00, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
:::If it is the DLC characters, then they likely won't have any unless the guidebook the Japanese wiki uses got a reprint with them included. As for non-DLC, not sure why they weren't done. BubbleRevolution was doing most of them, could be any number of reasons why they didn't/couldn't finish. If you do decide to get the rest, avoid using machine translation (Google Translate, DeepL, etc.) as they aren't always accurate, especially for fictional objects/characters&mdash;some are obvious like the one above where it is an already English word transliterated to Japanese. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:47, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
:::: yeah, i meant the non dlc characters, i noticed that only one person was doing them and that they stopped a while ago. i'm aware machine translation is inaccurate sometimes so i planned on using that in combination with more direct reputable sources (including some of my friends who do speak japanese). there are instances where a word doesnt directly translate to english like with charizard's forward smash (ぶちかまし, buchikamashi) which is a sumo move. i was wondering if in those cases we go with the literal translation "buchikamashi" or an interpretation/closest english word like "headbutt charge"[[User:Luigi86101|Luigi86101]] ([[User talk:Luigi86101|talk]]) 17:57, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
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 :::If it is the DLC characters, then they likely won't have any unless the guidebook the Japanese wiki uses got a reprint with them included. As for non-DLC, not sure why they weren't done. BubbleRevolution was doing most of them, could be any number of reasons why they didn't/couldn't finish. If you do decide to get the rest, avoid using machine translation (Google Translate, DeepL, etc.) as they aren't always accurate, especially for fictional objects/characters&mdash;some are obvious like the one above where it is an already English word transliterated to Japanese. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:47, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
 :::: yeah, i meant the non dlc characters, i noticed that only one person was doing them and that they stopped a while ago. i'm aware machine translation is inaccurate sometimes so i planned on using that in combination with more direct reputable sources (including some of my friends who do speak japanese). there are instances where a word doesnt directly translate to english like with charizard's forward smash (ぶちかまし, buchikamashi) which is a sumo move. i was wondering if in those cases we go with the literal translation "buchikamashi" or an interpretation/closest english word like "headbutt charge"[[User:Luigi86101|Luigi86101]] ([[User talk:Luigi86101|talk]]) 17:57, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
-:::::Sounds like a solid plan. Perhaps the latter option would be better. I couldn't find many examples from BR's edits other than 2 on Bowser; Google Translate failed on them and DeepL gave a decent result. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:25, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
-::::::You said you have the guide book on hand right? Do you mind confirming if every character has the same name for their grab (in japanese), つかみ (tsukami)? That what it lists on the japanese smash wiki but the samus page here on this smash wiki it lists hers as グラップリングビーム (Gurappuringu Bīmu).[[User:Luigi86101|Luigi86101]] ([[User talk:Luigi86101|talk]]) 21:50, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
-:::::::It doesn't appear to explicitly name them like it does everything else. I found "つかみ" on every page up to and including Samus (stopped checking after that), but it was used more like an attribute like one would describe run speed or weight. "グラップリング" is used as part of Samus' throws that use the grapple, but I can't make out a use of the full "グラップリングビーム". Granted, I've never studied Japanese and can't read it, so I may be overlooking it. I can try to take pictures of the pages like I did for the Poke Ball moves, if I do I'll message you on your talk page about it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:17, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
-::::::::At the moment that was the only thing that needed clearing up so I don't need the pictures right now, but if you're able to do so that would still be appreciated, thanks. Perhaps they use グラップリングビーム in the japanese in-game tips like in the english ones. [[User:Luigi86101|Luigi86101]] ([[User talk:Luigi86101|talk]]) 22:41, May 7, 2022 (EDT)
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