Editing Talk:Magnifying-Glass Damage

Regarding nomenclature: "When your character has left the screen and is being displayed in a tiny hoop, you incur a little bit of damage known as hoop damage. However, once your damage climbs over 150%, you will no longer take damage in this fashion." [http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various38.html] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:39, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
:(It's the fourth bullet) <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 19:42, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Move name ==

'''Support''' per tag. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 17:22, 23 April 2016 (EDT)

<s>'''Support'''</s>. [[SW:OFFICIAL]] says to prioritize in official names unless they are much less popular. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 17:26, 23 April 2016 (EDT)

'''Oppose''' i alwys heard hoop damage  [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 18:12, 23 April 2016 (EDT)

Both names are official. See the link at the top of this talk page. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:40, 23 April 2016 (EDT)
:That link is kinda not showing proof though. Its hard to decide which is the proper term anyways. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Melee 23:54, 23 April 2016 (EDT)
::Both have been used in different games, but meh. I think this is another case of let's leave well enough alone. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:57, 23 April 2016 (EDT)
:::Per Serpent King. Not an oppose per se, but more that it's unnecessary. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:16, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
::::Yeah, per Serpent King, I'm gonna '''slight oppose''' at best as both names are equally relevant to the point where there's no point to move it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:52, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
:I can't access the text, it just asks me to chose a language. But, I am changing this this to '''neutral''' since the current name sounds official after reading the quote above, and thus, unnecessary to change. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 17:07, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
::Ah, whoops. The link was for the old DOJO location; they've since pushed it all to a /wii subdirectory. Try [http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/gamemode/various/various38.html this]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:17, 25 April 2016 (EDT)

== Move, again ==

When the name "hoop damage" was given on the Brawl website, we used it, and kept it despite "magnifying-glass damage" being used in the SSB4 and SSBU tips. However, I don't think this is the correct course of action anymore. I've noticed two things:
* The bonuses in melee relating to the bubble use the term "magnifying glass". So "hoop" is not necessarily the earliest term.
* The Japanese term [https://www.smashbros.com/wii/jp/gamemode/various/various38.html on the Brawl website] is "ルーペダメージ", or '''loupe''' damage. "Loupe" is a word for "a small magnifying glass used by jewelers and watchmakers". But because it doesn't seem English, and Japanese blends L and R, it seems that it was misrecognized as "loop" or "roop", and therefore squished into "hoop".
Therefore, I suggest the Brawl term is dodgy at best, and we should change to the term that three other games agree on. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 11:52, January 11, 2020 (EST)

'''Support''', I did wonder why we kept the outdated term for so long, especially since people in the community don't seem to use this term either. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 11:55, January 11, 2020 (EST)

'''Support'''. I really never understood this name, and now it makes sense why. How are the camera boundaries "hoops"? [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 19:09, January 11, 2020 (EST)

'''Support'''. The magnifying glass is basically a hoop, it's circular. It's just outdated compared to the new name. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 22:51, January 11, 2020 (EST)

'''Support'''. I literally never heard of the term "hoop damage" while magnifying-glass damage has been used before. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #2091ff">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd,</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 18:41, February 17, 2020 (EST)
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	'''Support'''. The magnifying glass is basically a hoop, it's circular. It's just outdated compared to the new name. [[User:Zeckemyro\|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro\|talk]]) 22:51, January 11, 2020 (EST)		'''Support'''. The magnifying glass is basically a hoop, it's circular. It's just outdated compared to the new name. [[User:Zeckemyro\|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro\|talk]]) 22:51, January 11, 2020 (EST)

	'''Support'''. I literally never heard of the term "hoop damage" while ~~the term~~ magnifying-glass damage has been used ~~more~~. [[Image:001Toad.jpg\|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #2091ff">'''[[User:OmegaToad64\|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd,</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64\|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 18:41, February 17, 2020 (EST)		'''Support'''. I literally never heard of the term "hoop damage" while magnifying-glass damage has been used before. [[Image:001Toad.jpg\|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #2091ff">'''[[User:OmegaToad64\|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd,</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64\|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 18:41, February 17, 2020 (EST)
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