Editing Talk:Machinima

==Deletion==
'''Very Weak Delete.''' We'll never be able to include all of the Smash machinimas out there, and "notable" isn't very specific. Imagine how many people will add their newborn machinimas to this page. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 17:56, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Pikamander. <font face="Elephant">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><font face="Elephant"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Happy Holidays</span>]]</sup></small></font> 18:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm, well the original idea was to only include the well known machinimas, I mean its obvious one could never list all the Smash Bros. machinima, and I do agree on the notable being indistinct. How about rather than a delete of the entire page, a simple deletion of the list, and then provide a link to say machinima.com?
[[User:IrvThaSol|IrvThaSol]]<small>[[User Talk:IrvThaSol|(talk to me)]]</small>
:That could work. There are a lot of Smash machinimas out there, so it does make sense to have an article about it. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 21:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
We're going to need this page.  There's a joint effort that is going to happen this month with us and the Fanon wiki.  It will become apparent soon.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 02:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
:Oh dear lord, I really hope that doesn't mean that...   '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 02:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, no one has spoken on this subject in a while (kinda). Should the list just be taken down, or what?[[User:IrvThaSol|IrvThaSol a.k.a Ungod]] <small>([[User talk: IrvThaSol|talk to me]])</small>
:No. Read C. Hawk's comment. Although, I'm unaware of what he means. When I showed the site's link on the main page talk page (apparently nobody had heard of it until then), I took it from some random user on my talk page. It really doesn't look like a fan site, but like a fictonal site. I haven't seen it since then, so can someone clear up this "joint effort" subject for me? '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">May Guthix be with you...</span>]]'''</sup> 17:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I saw that, but I too am still not in full understanding as to what this joint effort means. C. Hawk if you see this discussion, could you please explain the joint effort further? [[User:IrvThaSol|<span style="color: gray;">IrvThaSol</span> <span style="color:red;">a.k.a</span> <span style="color:black;">Ungod</span>]] <small>([[User talk: IrvThaSol|talk to me]])</small>

:Okay, now someone tell me why they saw it fit to create links to non-existant pages of specific machinima. What ever, I'll just right that by removing the brackets. No objections? Fine.[[User:IrvThaSol|<span style="color: gray;">IrvThaSol</span> <span style="color:red;">a.k.a</span> <span style="color:black;">Ungod</span>]] <small>([[User talk: IrvThaSol|talk to me]])</small>


==Revamp==
:Wow! who revamped this? It's great. a lot better than the original page. Who ever did it. My hat is off to you.
[[User:IrvThaSol|<span style="color: gray;">IrvThaSol</span> <span style="color:red;">a.k.a</span> <span style="color:black;">Ungod</span>]] <small>([[User talk: IrvThaSol|talk to me]])</small> 22:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

== The list is getting excessive. ==

I'm not a notability expert, but I'm pretty sure that the list of machinimas can be pared down easily. As has been said before, having a list at all may be the problem. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] <choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose> 01:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, the only ones that I think are remotely notable are Smashtasm, The Last Tier War, and Wolf's Retarded Mission (and others by those creators).  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 01:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Probably only the first three are good. I've never heard of any of the others.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Why only link to the most famous ones? Just because it's not as well-known doesn't automatically mean it's not as good. --[[User:Arceus3000|Arceus3000]] ([[User talk:Arceus3000|talk]]) 19:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Smashtasm is good to stay, Dexterboy's machinimas and Brawlgasm are as well (mostly because of Beans), The Last Tier War is good to stay.  MALR is a stretch, but he's the only one I know of that doesn't use voice acting for most of his/her machinima, so I guess that's sorta notable.  I've never heard of any other machinima creators on the list.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|I see wat u did thar...</span></sup>]]

== Another Machinima ==

There is another Machinima called The Legend of Olimar. It's made by ElectroBlade. Maybe if you're still posting Machinima's you could add it, but if you don't want to, I get why: If you post this then you'll have to post every single Machinima ever created, and all that stuff. But you could at least watch to see if it's good enough. But I'm not going to. For two reasons: #1I don't want two, and #2 I don't really know how.[[Special:Contributions/67.70.92.36|67.70.92.36]] 04:34, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

There's another Machinima called "Brawl Wars", I don't know who it's made by because I didn't look long enough for his name, but it's not being represented by Machinima yet, besides it's decently funny like Smashtasm.--[[User:Ryou Seiji|Ryou Seiji]] ([[User talk:Ryou Seiji|talk]]) 20:39, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

== A typical Machinima Scene... ==

Okay I really don't understand how that picture looks any more like a machinima then any other brawl snapshot. I do know that it happens to be a picture from Smashtasm, but for all I know it could be an example of Meta Knight's idle animation. I think we could find a better picture for Machinima than that. I just didn't want to randomly remove I picture without any reason so I'll just see everyone's reaction.[[User:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Orange;">highway</span>]] [[Image:highwaypumpypic.jpg|20px]] [[User talk:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Red;">pumpy</span>]] 01:06, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
:<s>It honestly doesn't matter, seeing how this page is fanon and will be deleted shortly</s>, but it does somewhat resemble an average dialogue scene. ''<span style="font-family: Blue Highway Linocut;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="#87CEEB">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="#007FFF ">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>'' 01:20, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
* I agree with H.P. Anyway, I do think that we could et a better image. It is a dialouge scene, but you wouldn't be able to tell if it was one or not based on the picture.--[[User:Qim1|Qim1]] ([[User talk:Qim1|talk]]) 23:56, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

== silver crisis page ==

there is a poplar machinima called silver crisis on YT, and i was wondering if it was OK it make a page about it. smashtasm and the last tier war have their own, so why not silver crisis? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zelda101|Zelda101]] ([[User talk:Zelda101|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zelda101|contribs]]) 7:12, July 27, 2010 (UTC)</small>
:Weren't those deleted? Also, sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Talk to me on [[SW:IRC]].--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 07:14, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
:No, you can not create a page for it as we do not allow fanon on this Wiki. Those pages you mentioned were purged long ago along with the rest of the fanon articles. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 07:17, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
==SuperDoodleMan==
The Wrath of Giga Bowser has about a million views to start with, so definitly notable. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 02:22, 7 January 2012 (EST)

Guess what I just made. [[The Wrath of Giga Bowser]][[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 02:25, 7 January 2012 (EST)

Wait what happened? According to that Community Portal one of the Wanted Pages was Wrath of Giga Bowser....[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 02:28, 7 January 2012 (EST)

Megatron1 wuts going on with u? First u redirected my The Wrath of Giga Bowser page, deleting all my hard work, but then u come here to support it's inclusion? This is crazy.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 02:36, 7 January 2012 (EST)

:Drakon64, fan pages do not belong on SmashWiki. Instead, take them to [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/SmashWikia SmashWikia], because it now focuses more on Smash fanon. Any more fan pages you create will likely not survive a RfD. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 02:38, 7 January 2012 (EST)

== Delete ==

It's fanon. If you read [[SmashWiki:What SmashWiki is not#SmashWiki is not fanon|this]], you can see that machinimas should '''NOT''' be ignored. The only fanon thing allowed here is PM. [[User:Smashballz|<span style="color:Red">Smash</span>]][[User talk:Smashballz|<span style="color:Green">ballz</span>]]
:''Smash Bros.'' Machinimas are notable to the Smash community however. If it was an article about specific series such as Smashtasm, then true that we don't need to go too deep within fanon. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Metal Gear 17:28, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:What exactly are you going on about here? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:10, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:Your signature is done wrong. Remember to use four tildes (<nowiki>"~~~~"</nowiki>), not three. That way, the timestamp is reported. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|20px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  20:19, 8 December 2013 (EST)
::and WHY do you care?? Also, I '''didn't''' use tildes at all. That would use the user template. I MANUALLY put it in.[[User:Smashballz|t3h]] [[User talk:Smashballz|0r4n93 b00l00n]] 22:19, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:::I don't get what you mean by "machinimas should '''not''' be ignored". It's still worth mentioning about machinima though. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Solid Snake 22:34, 8 December 2013 (EST)
::::[[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not fanon|read this.]] [[User:OrangeBooloon|t3h]] [[User talk:OrangeBooloon|0r4n93 b00l00n]] 14:40, 19 January 2014 (EST)
:::::How come you say "machinimas should '''not''' be ignored" (implying that you want them) yet you're going on about its deletion (implying that you don't want them)? Irony. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 14:44, 19 January 2014 (EST)
::::::Because it's fanon. and fanon things(except PM) should be deleted. [[User:OrangeBooloon|t3h]] [[User talk:OrangeBooloon|0r4n93 b00l00n]] 15:05, 19 January 2014 (EST)
:::::::Which is the sole reason why you're seemingly hypocritical about your opinion on the subject? [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 15:08, 19 January 2014 (EST)

The page probably does need to be cut down a bit, but it shouldn't be deleted because it's important to state that such things exist. Why exactly is there a discussion here? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Producer 15:11, 19 January 2014 (EST)
:::::::::None of you read the link, ([[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not fanon|here it is again]]) so you don't get it. [[User:OrangeBooloon|t3h]] [[User talk:OrangeBooloon|0r4n93 b00l00n]] 16:36, 19 January 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I guess you are unable to see what any of us have said. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 16:37, 19 January 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Read about the things that shouldn't be ignored. [[User:OrangeBooloon|t3h]] [[User talk:OrangeBooloon|0r4n93 b00l00n]] 16:45, 19 January 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::Okay we at least cut the page down by a lot but Machinimas are still notable to the Smash community, thus it shouldn't be deleted. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Ocarina of Time 16:49, 19 January 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::I'll copy and paste it for you, then.

::::::::::::''The page probably does need to be cut down a bit, but it shouldn't be deleted because it's important to state that such things exist. Why exactly is there a discussion here?''

::::::::::::''Which ''[because it's fanon]'' is the sole reason why you're seemingly hypocritical about your opinion on the subject?'' [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 16:55, 19 January 2014 (EST)

Orange Balloon is not being hypocritical and meant that the fanon policy should not exclude this page in his original statement, and that the no fanon policy applies to this page as well because he believes it's fanon. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 17:21, 19 January 2014 (EST)
:Correct. Also, how can anyone '''NOT''' spell OrangeBooloon right? [[User:OrangeBooloon|t3h]] [[User talk:OrangeBooloon|0r4n93 b00l00n]] 17:25, 19 January 2014 (EST)
::You still didn't refute what Toomai said: ''it shouldn't be deleted because it's important to state that such things exist''. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 17:29, 19 January 2014 (EST)
:Wow that's what the statement was understood as? Better go change it so that doesn't happen again. The intent is to mean "we're not going to pretend they don't exist, which means having pages that say they exist." [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Da Bomb 17:43, 19 January 2014 (EST)
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