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This sounds like some seriously [[unofficial lingo]. Plus the information isn't even accurate, as Luigi was not a direct clone of Mario in [[SSB]]. -- <font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 02:14, March 7, 2007 (GMT) | This sounds like some seriously [[unofficial lingo]]. Plus the information isn't even accurate, as Luigi was not a direct clone of Mario in [[SSB]]. -- <font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 02:14, March 7, 2007 (GMT) | ||
I agree. In fact, we're currently having this same debate in the "talk" of the [[Clone characters]] page. [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] keeps re-adding Luigi as clone of Mario in SSB, and I proposed a vote on it. As of the last time I checked, our side is winning. I'm going to wait until the end of the day, if we still have the most votes by then, I'm going ahead and editing both these pages.--[[User:Bman87301|Bman87301]] 19:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | I agree. In fact, we're currently having this same debate in the "talk" of the [[Clone characters]] page. [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] keeps re-adding Luigi as clone of Mario in SSB, and I proposed a vote on it. As of the last time I checked, our side is winning. I'm going to wait until the end of the day, if we still have the most votes by then, I'm going ahead and editing both these pages.--[[User:Bman87301|Bman87301]] 19:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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:::Pardon me, but I have better things to do with my time than bicker with a bunch of whiny editors taking things personally over an obvious merge for my own amusement. Listen to what you're arguing for! "Luigification"?? Seriously? This terminology sounds like it was invented by a four year-old and it describes something apparently equivalent to "partial cloning." Which sounds a whole lot to me like the definition for [[clone]]--"characters that have nearly identical movesets with slight variations in the attacks." If a clone is not an exact copy of a character's moveset, then what is the difference between a clone and a "partial clone."? Why is [[Luigi]] and [[Mario]] a part of this list of "Luigified" characters but [[Dr. Mario]] and [[Mario]] appear on the list of clone characters? I beg of you to give a rational explanation of how the physical properties of Doc's moveset constitute "cloning" (wherein all of his aerials, ground attacks and smashes have different knockback both in power, speed of execution and angle, in addition to his special moves serving entirely different purposes and sporting unique properties of their own), yet Luigi's moveset is only a "partial clone" for ''exactly the same reasons''. And how exactly do you justify having both Fox & Falco, as well as Ganondorf and Captain Falcon, listed as both clones and "Luigification"s when you're fighting to keep the article separated? You don't even have a case! Give me a link or something to show me some evidence of this term being "used in the Super Smash Bros. fan community" under a reputable source and then you'd be making some headway, but good luck with that. And what is with this "Remaining clone aspects" attribute attached to these pairings? "Low"? "Slightly below half"? What is this article talking about??? Why would you support such incredibly ambiguous information? These articles will be merged. --[[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 04:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | :::Pardon me, but I have better things to do with my time than bicker with a bunch of whiny editors taking things personally over an obvious merge for my own amusement. Listen to what you're arguing for! "Luigification"?? Seriously? This terminology sounds like it was invented by a four year-old and it describes something apparently equivalent to "partial cloning." Which sounds a whole lot to me like the definition for [[clone]]--"characters that have nearly identical movesets with slight variations in the attacks." If a clone is not an exact copy of a character's moveset, then what is the difference between a clone and a "partial clone."? Why is [[Luigi]] and [[Mario]] a part of this list of "Luigified" characters but [[Dr. Mario]] and [[Mario]] appear on the list of clone characters? I beg of you to give a rational explanation of how the physical properties of Doc's moveset constitute "cloning" (wherein all of his aerials, ground attacks and smashes have different knockback both in power, speed of execution and angle, in addition to his special moves serving entirely different purposes and sporting unique properties of their own), yet Luigi's moveset is only a "partial clone" for ''exactly the same reasons''. And how exactly do you justify having both Fox & Falco, as well as Ganondorf and Captain Falcon, listed as both clones and "Luigification"s when you're fighting to keep the article separated? You don't even have a case! Give me a link or something to show me some evidence of this term being "used in the Super Smash Bros. fan community" under a reputable source and then you'd be making some headway, but good luck with that. And what is with this "Remaining clone aspects" attribute attached to these pairings? "Low"? "Slightly below half"? What is this article talking about??? Why would you support such incredibly ambiguous information? These articles will be merged. --[[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 04:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::The reason Doc is a clone and Luigi is not is because he shares EVERY SINGLE ATTACK that Mario has. It doesn't matter that the name, knockback, or damage is slightly different, or that they have slightly different speeds, weights, or jump heights. They all share identical animations. Luigification may sound like an uncreative term, but, while there is no exact dividing line, the concept is quite different from a clone. - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] 05:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | ::::The reason Doc is a clone and Luigi is not is because he shares EVERY SINGLE ATTACK that Mario has. It doesn't matter that the name, knockback, or damage is slightly different, or that they have slightly different speeds, weights, or jump heights. They all share identical animations. Luigification may sound like an uncreative term, but, while there is no exact dividing line, the concept is quite different from a clone. - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] 05:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | ||