Editing Talk:Lucas (SSBB)

== Lucas Doesn't Use Telekinetic Throws ==

Could someone please stop saying that Lucas uses telekinesis in his throws? Only Ness does that. Lucas uses his Rope Snake to perform grabs. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.253.174.246|70.253.174.246]] ([[User talk:70.253.174.246|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.253.174.246|contribs]]) 22:07, 17 April 2008</small>
:You're free to edit the article to show correct information. '''[[User:Silverdragon706|FyreNWater]]''' -  <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|Contributions]] )</small> 03:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
::He absolutely does. Actually, you might say '''psychokinetic''', hence the PK. The snake is only for the initial grab, but any movement afterwards is done with PSI. - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] 20:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
You're right, Gargomon251. I was just playing with Lucas in Brawl and little PSI sparks appeared over his head when he performed a throw. Sorry for the misunderstanding. - GalaxiaD, 3:24 PM, April 18, 2008 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.253.174.246|70.253.174.246]] ([[User talk:70.253.174.246|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.253.174.246|contribs]]) 20:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)</small>

== PK Stick! ==

Is Lucas's forward smash really called the PK stick? I doubt it. Don't want to change it, though, since I've never played Mother. [[User:Supportmage|Supportmage]] 23:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't know what it's called, but PK Stick sounds a little lame. Since Ness' forward smash is just called a bat, I would just call Lucas' forward smash a tree branch. - [[User:GalaxiaD|GalaxiaD]] 20:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I concur. [[User:Dorsha|Dorsha]] 02:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

==Damage Percentage==
Is it neccessary to add the Damage% on the list of moves section? If so, I'll do it. [[User:ItemHazard|ItemHazard]] ([[User talk:ItemHazard|talk]]) 16:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC) ItemHazard

== Lucas! Lucas! Lucas! ==

<s>Lucas rocks! [[User:Amycats2| LucasMainer]]</s>

You're only allowed to discuss how you can edit this article, not on your opinions on things. Doc King

P.S. no one cares :P

== Lucas' Uair ==

[[Lucas]] does NOT use PSI for his [[Uair]]! A lot of people have argued that he does, but he doesn't! It's obvious; there are no PSI electric noises; just him swinging his huge head up to meet another foe! People say that since he seems to move upwards a bit, that he utilizes PSI - but that's wrong! He only moves up after his first jump, and that's normal with all characters using Uairs after their first jump! After both jumps, he doesn't "teleport" up - THERE IS NO PSI! [[User:Reptiliusofpeace|Reptiliusofpeace]] ([[User talk:Reptiliusofpeace|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes there is, when he uses it, you can see a PSI spark above him. Try hitting somebody with the Spark and not Lucas' head. [[User:Smorekingxg456|Smorekingxg456]] ([[User talk:Smorekingxg456|talk]]) 23:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)  PS, Sign your posts/comments

I HAVE hit with his spark! Its not PSI! If people argue that a flash or spark is PSI, then his side smash is a PSI attack too. If you pay attention, you'll see a similar spark before [[Lucas]] launches his branch. There is no electricity, no hexagons, and no special sound (and there is no otherworldly effect like his specials). Logically, there is PSI involved. [[User:Reptiliusofpeace|Reptiliusofpeace]] ([[User talk:Reptiliusofpeace|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

This would be a better arguement if I actually knew who I was arguing with(four tides, that's all it takes!) But sure, I really don't care about one small detail. I'll somebody else get involved in an edit with you.(Reptilius?) [[User:Smorekingxg456|Smorekingxg456]] ([[User talk:Smorekingxg456|talk]]) 01:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Theres no PSI its just air showing his sweetspot. ( I'm not the same guy who started this) - [[User:Hatake91|Hatake91]] ([[User talk:Hatake91|talk]]) 01:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Anyone who thought that it was PSI is an idiot. Does it sound like energy like when hit with his other aerials? Does it have long hitstun (a characteristic of many electric attacks)? No, it's just a thwack and the opponent goes flying instantly. Many characters have these "sparks" when they use some attacks; Ike's and Marth's Dair for example. They're not PSI unless you see hexagons (or circles in Ness' case). [[Special:Contributions/202.156.13.238|202.156.13.238]] 12:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to sign my posts. Anyway, I brought up this section. I agree with you [[User:Hatake91|Hatake91]]. I think the flash is a sweetspot. It seemed to knock back farther than his (big) head. It seems like PSI at first, but come on! He headbutts the air; many players do that. That attack seems normal and has no PSI properties. [[User:Reptiliusofpeace|Reptiliusofpeace]] ([[User talk:Reptiliusofpeace|talk]]) 15:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

==NEW FORMAT!==
Just some filling in, maybe some re-wording, and it's all good. YESH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1ONEONEONEONEONEONE!!!!!11! But, anyways, its in the new format, feel free to edit, but don't put it in the old format.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<font face="Impact" color="5F9EA0"><span style="color:Orange">Smore</span></font>]][[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Black">Kingxg456</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:purple">BOO!</span>]] 23:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)'''

== Eddie ==

Lucas does his B moves with an American accent. Does this have anything to do with [[wikipedia:Image:FPLP_Eddie.png|a character from Fisher-Price's Little People universe]] who also speaks with an American accent and is a dead ringer for Lucas? --[[User:Tepples|Tepples]] ([[User talk:Tepples|talk]]) 04:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:This is akin to the R.O.B. = Wall-E nonsense.  Just because two things look similar doesn't mean they have the slightest thing to do with each other. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 04:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Rhythm pummel ==

The game itself, MOTHER 3, has a rhythm system in it... basically, when you press the A button to the rhythm of the battle music, you'll start scoring additional hits up to a 16 hit combo.

The description of Lucas's pummel here did remind me of this and they could be related.

== Hyrule Jump ==

How does Lucas can complete the reverse Hyrule jump without using his Up B? I can't even complete it with Up B.[[Special:Contributions/114.245.221.153|114.245.221.153]] 04:01, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely with a [[Zap Jump]].  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 04:13, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Lucas' vs Lucas's ==

Both are used more than once in the article. I've been told that they're both correct, but we shouldn't use both on the same page. Thoughts? <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 16:55, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
:I say we go with Lucas'.[[User:L33tSilvie|L33tSilvie]] ([[User talk:L33tSilvie|talk]]) 18:09, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
:Lucas' is correct while Lucas's is somewhat correct, but waste bytes and is generally considered improper when using formal writing.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 18:13, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
::Lucas is not plural, ergo the correct possessive form is Lucas's.  I've gone through this enough times with my name, where the possessive form is Miles's. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:08, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

== Lucas' Up Tilt ==

When I was writing Lucas frame data (you may notice that I wasn´t log in, for some reason, when i started editing the page, I was log in, but when I finishing, my username didn´t appear), I observate that it says that Lucas' Up tilt can meteor smash at later frames but theres nothing in the meteor smash page. Somebody just forgot to add it or it isn´t a meteor smash at all? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zero|contribs]]) 07:59, 20 December 2010 (EST)</small>
:First, you have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> (logged in or not). Second, there is no meteor smash in Lucas's up tilt (or anything resembling one). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Eggster 09:38, 29 December 2010 (EST)

== Lucas' Down Smash ==

Sometimes I play around with Lucas, and I've noticed that if the opponent is hit by the first hit of the down smash close to Lucas, the first hit will connect to the second. Is this character specific? Should this be in the down smash portion of his moveset description? I want to know. [[User:ViciousViridian|ViciousViridian]] ([[User talk:ViciousViridian|talk]]) 22:32, 22 February 2014 (EST)
:This is just the first hit not hitting the character away far enough before the next hit lands, and it's already noted that the subsequently blows can land. Whether it happens or not depends on a huge variety of factors that isn't percent and character specific, such as the character's size and weight (heavier and larger characters are obviously more susceptible), the surrounding stage area (a wall or slope can keep the opponent from flying away after the first hit, and a moving/slippery platform/stage may move Lucas while using the move, keeping the opponent from flying away too far), the opponent's SDI, knockback/size modifiers, the move's staleness, etc. So yeah, it isn't something you can put in a simple chart or say "it multi-hits on X character at Y damage", and generally, there is no real percent on any character that the second hit will reliably land in succession after a landed first hit. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:55, 22 February 2014 (EST)

::Never thought about that. Thanks for the clarification. [[User:ViciousViridian|VICIOUS VIRIDIAN!!!!!!]] ([[User talk:ViciousViridian|talk]]) 12:25, 23 February 2014 (EST)

== Lucas was cut but..... ==

===Lucas===

You know maybe he will come back as DLC like "Mewtwo" maybe....


EnderNan 12:40, 6 December 2014 (EST)EnderNanEnderNan 12:40, 6 December 2014 (EST)
:Please read [[SW:TALK]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 12:41, 6 December 2014 (EST)

== Is this false trivia ==

Lucas, himself is not a clone at all, but is more of a Semi-clone than that, but I found this:

'''Lucas is the first clone to be a starter character.'''

Can this be removed? [[User:Smugsamodas|Smugsamodas]] ([[User talk:Smugsamodas|talk]]) 13:17, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
:While yes, it is false to call him a clone, he's also the first semi-clone to be a starter character. So I just rephrased it. Thanks for pointing it out! <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  13:20, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
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