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| Something weird happened: While Cuphead and Mugman spirit battles both have been seen on twitter featuring a red and a blue Megaman, I got to fight Mii Gunners with the Cuphead costume instead... Is it possible that those two spirit battles have different settings depending on if you have the DLC costume or not? Can people who didn't buy the Cuphead costume confirm here that they got to fight Megaman and not Mii Gunners? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 04:27, February 14, 2020 (EST) | | Something weird happened: While Cuphead and Mugman spirit battles both have been seen on twitter featuring a red and a blue Megaman, I got to fight Mii Gunners with the Cuphead costume instead... Is it possible that those two spirit battles have different settings depending on if you have the DLC costume or not? Can people who didn't buy the Cuphead costume confirm here that they got to fight Megaman and not Mii Gunners? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 04:27, February 14, 2020 (EST) |
| :Apparently yes, according to the [[Ready? Wallop!]] page, those who didn't download the Cuphead suits instead fight Mega Man. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 04:35, February 14, 2020 (EST) | | :Apparently yes, according to the [[Ready? Wallop!]] page, those who didn't download the Cuphead suits instead fight Mega Man. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 04:35, February 14, 2020 (EST) |
| ::Can confirm. No DLC, no Cuphead Miis and no Cuphead Music.--[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User_talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 04:38, February 14, 2020 (EST)
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| That's going to be a mess... what should we do? Should we duplicate the lines like I do bellow? [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 05:38, February 14, 2020 (EST)
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| {|class="wikitable sortable" style="width:100%;"
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| ! colspan=3|Spirit
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| ! colspan=7|Battle parameters
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| ! colspan=1 rowspan=2|Inspiration
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| ! style="width:5%;"|No.
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| ! style="width:5%;"|Image
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| ! Name
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| ! Enemy Fighter(s)
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| ! style="width:5%;"|Type
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| ! style="width:5%;"|Power
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| ! Stage
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| ! Rules
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| ! Conditions
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| ! Music
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| |rowspan="2"|1,398
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| |rowspan="2"|[[File:SSBU spirit Cuphead.png|center|108x108px]]
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| |rowspan="2"|[[Cuphead]]
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| |•{{SSBU|Mega Man}} {{Head|Mega Man|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}<br>•Giant {{SSBU|Peach}} Team (×3) ({{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=White}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Green}})
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| |[[File:SpiritTypeAttack.png|20px|center|Attack]]
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| |9,400
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| |[[New Pork City]] ([[Ω form]])
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| |N/A
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| |•Defeat the main fighter to win<br>•The enemy's ranged weapons have increased power<br>•[[Stamina battle]]
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| |{{SSBUMusicLink|Other|Final Results - Wii Party U}}
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| |rowspan="2"|
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| *''Trivia points 1''
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| *''Trivia points 2''
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| *''...''
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| |•{{SSBU|Mii Gunner}} {{Head|Mii Gunner|g=SSBU|s=20px}} (Cuphead Hat, Cuphead Outfit)<br>•Giant {{SSBU|Peach}} Team (×3) ({{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=White}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Green}})
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| |[[File:SpiritTypeAttack.png|20px|center|Attack]]
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| |9,400
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| |[[New Pork City]] ([[Ω form]])
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| |N/A
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| |•Defeat the main fighter to win<br>•The enemy's ranged weapons have increased power<br>•[[Stamina battle]]
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| |{{SSBUMusicLink|Other|Floral Fury}}
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| |}
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| ! colspan=3|Spirit
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| ! colspan=7|Battle parameters
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| ! colspan=1 rowspan=2|Inspiration
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| ! style="width:5%;"|No.
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| ! style="width:5%;"|Image
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| ! Name
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| ! Enemy Fighter(s)
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| ! style="width:5%;"|Type
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| ! style="width:5%;"|Power
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| ! Stage
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| ! Rules
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| ! Conditions
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| ! Music
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| |rowspan="2"|1,398
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| |rowspan="2"|[[File:SSBU spirit Cuphead.png|center|108x108px]]
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| |rowspan="2"|[[Cuphead]]
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| |•{{SSBU|Mega Man}} {{Head|Mega Man|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}<br>•Giant {{SSBU|Peach}} Team (×3) ({{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=White}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Green}})
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| |rowspan="2"|[[File:SpiritTypeAttack.png|20px|center|Attack]]
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| |rowspan="2"|9,400
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| |rowspan="2"|[[New Pork City]] ([[Ω form]])
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| |rowspan="2"|N/A
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| |rowspan="2"|•Defeat the main fighter to win<br>•The enemy's ranged weapons have increased power<br>•[[Stamina battle]]
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| |{{SSBUMusicLink|Other|Final Results - Wii Party U}}
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| |rowspan="2"|
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| *''Trivia points 1''
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| *''Trivia points 2''
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| *''...''
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| |•{{SSBU|Mii Gunner}} {{Head|Mii Gunner|g=SSBU|s=20px}} (Cuphead Hat, Cuphead Outfit)<br>•Giant {{SSBU|Peach}} Team (×3) ({{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=White}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}{{Head|Peach|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Green}})
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| |{{SSBUMusicLink|Other|Floral Fury}}
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| |}
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| :I'd say the second looks less repetitive. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 05:43, February 14, 2020 (EST)
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| ::Agreed on the second one. More readable, minimizes edit errors, fewer bytes, and less repetitive.--[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User_talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 05:56, February 14, 2020 (EST)
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| Well, I've done it: I added a slightly grey background to highlight the DLC version, and put a reusable footnote to explain in a general way why some spirit battles have alternative settings (that will work for any future similar situation). [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 07:01, February 18, 2020 (EST)
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| == Cuphead pngs? ==
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| Are there no png images of the renders of the Cuphead spirits available outside of the in-game rips? I've scoured for a very long time and can't find any that are identical to the ones used for the spirits. Is the person who usually does the in-game rips unavailable at this time?
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| :I was wondering this too; how do we not have transparent PNGs for them yet? [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 14:20, March 16, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::It's because we don't take fan transparencies, and instead rely on the images being ripped from the game's files, which Cuphead hasn't had yet. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 14:24, March 16, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::I know Random Talking Bush on [https://www.spriters-resource.com/nintendo_switch/supersmashbrosultimate/sheet/116167/ Spriters Resource] often has the rips, but he has said "Due to changes in the backend regarding event-based Spirits, I actually cannot rip the Link's Awakening spirits yet (or any others not tied to character releases in the future)". I'm not aware of anyone else who has the tools to rip the images. We may have to wait until something changes that allows them to be ripped.--[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User_talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 14:28, March 16, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::::While we're on the subject of non-transparent spirit images: We still don't have an image for the Natah spirit at all. Would this [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER2Ul_vU8AE9mFN?format=jpg&name=large] be a suitable replacement until the spirit itself gets ripped? [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 14:33, March 16, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Moving ARMS spirits ==
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| With the unknown ''ARMS'' fighter appearing soon, for those of us who want to move the spirits to its own list, I think it's fair that after the ''ARMS'' DLC is released, we should look at the base spirits on the Spirit Collection list and see if they have the ''ARMS'' symbol put up. That way, we'll know when to move them. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 20:37, March 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| :I'm not opposed to giving ''ARMS'' its own page, but we need to wait for it to be confirmed that they are counted as their own before removing them from this page. I'll definitely be watching the spirits collection and the ability plates to see if there is a change and updating as needed. I'll also be checking for the series damage bonus to be sure.--[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User_talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:45, March 26, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Ralf & Clark ==
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| If I'm not mistaken, SmashWiki's current practice is that spirits featuring multiple characters (such as Ralf & Clark) have their "origin game" as the first game featuring both characters together as a duo, rather than separately listing their individual debuts, in order to reduce the amount of content in the origins column. Examples include Boom Boom & Pom Pom, Dixie Kong & Kiddy Kong, Donkey Kong & Bongos (even though Bongos isn't a character, but I digress), and Skull Kid & Majora's Mask. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 15:15, April 17, 2020 (EDT)
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| :A counterargument I would like to make to this is that all of the examples you listed have atleast one of the characters within them appear as standalone spirits (Boom Boom, Dixie Kong, Donkey Kong, and both Skull Kid and Majora's Mask <s>which makes me wonder why the "Skull Kid & Majora's Mask" isn't a Summon Spirit</s>. Neither Ralf nor Clark have a standalone spirit of their own, meaning there's no way to know that Ralf didn't debut in ''Ikari Warriors''. To prove my point, Banjo & Kazooie's spirit doesn't follow this rule on the ''BK'' spirits page. If I can be quite honest, though, I feel like the "origin game" and "artwork origin" parts should be removed altogether as no info like that is present in-game. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 15:21, April 17, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::Well, that discussion is what [[Forum:Removal of Origin Game/Artwork from List of spirits pages|this forum]] is for (but, as a counterpoint, SmashWiki in general is full of "origin game" information that isn't present in-game, so I don't see why this should be held against spirits). Otherwise, I suppose it's a fair point that the other "duo spirits" have another spirit for the individual character debuts. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 15:29, April 17, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Leon spirit battle references ==
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| The Ganado weren't zombies, they were infected with a mind-controlling parasite. [[Special:Contributions/97.88.55.134|97.88.55.134]] 12:37, June 3, 2020 (EDT)
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