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This is a very old page whose existence never seemed to be questioned (except for [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_SSBM_tier_lists_(Brazil)&diff=prev&oldid=304780 one time] it did get a valid delete tag, only for it to be [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_SSBM_tier_lists_(Brazil)&diff=next&oldid=304784 immediately removed by an old admin] with no real explanation), but looking at it now, I find it dubious to keep this page. For one, Brazil doesn't have their own unique version of the game, they have the [[NTSC]] version, so that's already a big strike against the notability of this tier list, why cover a different tier list covering the same exact game that the Smash Back Room's tier lists covers? One could point to us having pages for the Brawl [[European tier list]] and [[Japanese tier list]], despite Brawl having no regional differences, as an argument to keeping this page. However, the European and especially Japanese scenes are large with many top level players, and they were very isolated back in the Brawl days, so them having their own tier list was both understandable and noteworthy as a "second opinion" that merited coverage by the wiki. The Brazilian scene on the other hand doesn't appear significant at all; in our category page for [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Brazilian_tournaments Brazilian tournaments], there are only ''13 tournaments'', and of them, [[Tournament:First National Brazilian Tournament|this is the only Melee tournament]] on the wiki from the actual timeframe covered by these tier lists, where it was a national-level tournament with... only 49 entrants. That would be an average regional at best in that time, and it's not like the players are super good either; the tournaments winner, {{sm|Aisengobay}}, got 65th at [[Apex 2014]] and [[Apex 2015]], while the only other player in the top 6 with international results, {{sm|Kizzu}}, got ''385th'' at Apex 2015. We certainly wouldn't cover a tier list from an individual state like a "New York tier list" or from any other non-Japanese individual country like a "French Tier list", so why a tier list from a country with a scene less significant than most states? | This is a very old page whose existence never seemed to be questioned (except for [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_SSBM_tier_lists_(Brazil)&diff=prev&oldid=304780 one time] it did get a valid delete tag, only for it to be [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_SSBM_tier_lists_(Brazil)&diff=next&oldid=304784 immediately removed by an old admin] with no real explanation), but looking at it now, I find it dubious to keep this page. For one, Brazil doesn't have their own unique version of the game, they have the [[NTSC]] version, so that's already a big strike against the notability of this tier list, why cover a different tier list covering the same exact game that the Smash Back Room's tier lists covers?. One could point to us having pages for the Brawl [[European tier list]] and [[Japanese tier list]], despite Brawl having no regional differences, as an argument to keeping this page. However, the European and especially Japanese scenes are large with many top level players, and they were very isolated back in the Brawl days, so them having their own tier list was both understandable and noteworthy as a "second opinion" that merited coverage by the wiki. The Brazilian scene on the other hand doesn't appear significant at all; in our category page for [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Brazilian_tournaments Brazilian tournaments], there are only ''13 tournaments'', and of them, [[Tournament:First National Brazilian Tournament|this is the only Melee tournament]] on the wiki from the actual timeframe covered by these tier lists, where it was a national-level tournament with... only 49 entrants. That would be an average regional at best in that time, and it's not like the players are super good either; the tournaments winner, {{sm|Aisengobay}}, got 65th at [[Apex 2014]] and [[Apex 2015]], while the only other player in the top 6 with international results, {{sm|Kizzu}}, got ''385th'' at Apex 2015. We certainly wouldn't cover a tier list from an individual state like a "New York tier list" or from any other non-Japanese individual country like a "French Tier list", so why a tier list from a country with a scene less significant than most states? | ||
Also this page doesn't have any sources to actually verify if these "Brazilian tier lists" existed at all, and wasn't just some hoax that got accepted by old SmashWiki users who didn't properly scrutinize content added to the wiki then, like the "[[Wavedash#Origins and discovery|Toadbanjoconker discovered wavedashing]]" hoax. Trying to search it on google, the only relevant result is this page, and on Smashboards I found nothing about it either (only finding results about Brazilian tier lists made for Brawl and Smash 4 that never got brought up here). At best, the sources for this tier list are lost to time, and even if they were legit, as per my prior points, it still shouldn't be covered here. | Also this page doesn't have any sources to actually verify if these "Brazilian tier lists" existed at all, and wasn't just some hoax that got accepted by old SmashWiki users who didn't properly scrutinize content added to the wiki then, like the "[[Wavedash#Origins and discovery|Toadbanjoconker discovered wavedashing]]" hoax. Trying to search it on google, the only relevant result is this page, and on Smashboards I found nothing about it either (only finding results about Brazilian tier lists made for Brawl and Smash 4 that never got brought up here). At best, the sources for this tier list are lost to time, and even if they were legit, as per my prior points, it still shouldn't be covered here. | ||
