Editing Talk:Limit Charge / Finishing Touch

==Counterable==
So if Finishing Touch can be shielded or armored, is it possible to counter it as well? [[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 18:01, 19 December 2015 (EST)
:Anything that can be shielded can be countered as well. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="purple">DracoRex</font> <font color="blue">the</font> <font color="red">Dino King</font>]] [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">(RAWR!)</font></span>''']] 18:40, 19 December 2015 (EST)
==Different Pages==
Finishing Touch is 100% a different move than Limit Charge, they should have separate pages. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.111.139|68.39.111.139]] 10:35, 23 December 2015 (EST)
:Doesn't matter, they're both a down special. [[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Jolly Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig2.png|20px]] 10:55, 23 December 2015 (EST)
::Okay, how does that mean they should be on the same page? It's not called "Cloud's Down Special". It's supposed to be about Limit Charge, and Finishing Touch is something completely different. Having the same slot doesn't mean the moves are the same. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.111.139|68.39.111.139]] 08:01, 27 December 2015 (EST)
:::See [[Shin_Shoryuken_/_Shinku_Hadoken|Shin Shoryuken/Shinku Hadoken]] and [[Landmaster]]. Also, following that sense, then every level of [[Thunder_(Robin)|Robin's Thunder]] is a completely different projectile, and hence should be categorized in a separate page. That would also put [[Bonus Fruit]] in the same category. Obviously we do not do this because each different attack that is categorized with the same button input should be placed in the same page for easier reference, either that or because individual pages for each different attack would create unnecessary and short pages that can be condensed into a larger, more concise page. [[User:Archrelico|Archrelico]] ([[User talk:Archrelico|talk]]) 11:52, 27 December 2015 (EST)

== KO percentages ==

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9kwQ0mOQVk This video] shows when Cloud's Finishing Touch starts KO'ing each currently available character (along with [[Monado Arts|each of Shulk's states]]), in ascending percentage order. Should we incorporate a table with this info somewhere? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:17, 28 December 2015 (EST)
:I don't see why not. More info is better. [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 00:23, 28 December 2015 (EST)

== Move ==

I '''support''' moving this article to "Limit Charge / Finishing Touch." The two moves, although being part of the same down special, are completely different from one another. I feel like this alone is enough justification to list both in this page's title. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">'''28'''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 17:17, June 25, 2020 (EDT)

'''Support'''. Finishing Touch is completely different in every way, it's just common sense. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 13:24, June 28, 2020 (EDT)

'''Support'''. These moves are absolutely and totally different from one another. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 16:04, August 21, 2020 (EDT)

:I also am in '''support'''. Mostly for the above reasons, but also because even the in-game Move List displays it as such. [[User:Thecontributor22|Thecontributor22]] ([[User talk:Thecontributor22|talk]]) 08:32, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
==Split==
*I '''Support''' the Limit mechanic being separate from the move page. I also made a [[User:Thegameandwatch/Limit|draft for the page]] [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 20:11, June 10, 2022 (EDT)

*I'm '''against''' splitting the article. My reasoning is that A) The moves are listed together in the Move List, and B) Bayonetta's side special ([[Heel Slide / After Burner Kick]]) shares the same SmashWiki article as each other, despite functioning slightly differently. The same can be said for each of the variations of Hero's special moves. -- [[User:TomLegend101]] 07:53, August 6, 2022 (EDT)
** The splitting is about the Limit mechanic not Limit Charge which just charging the limit bar. [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 04:25, September 24, 2022 (EDT)
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 :I also am in '''support'''. Mostly for the above reasons, but also because even the in-game Move List displays it as such. [[User:Thecontributor22|Thecontributor22]] ([[User talk:Thecontributor22|talk]]) 08:32, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
-==Split the Limit mechanic==
+==Split==
-*I '''Support''' the Limit mechanic being separate from the move page. I also made a [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Limit_(status)&oldid=1660633 draft for the page] [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 20:11, June 10, 2022 (EDT)
+*I '''Support''' the Limit mechanic being separate from the move page. I also made a [[User:Thegameandwatch/Limit|draft for the page]] [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 20:11, June 10, 2022 (EDT)
 *I'm '''against''' splitting the article. My reasoning is that A) The moves are listed together in the Move List, and B) Bayonetta's side special ([[Heel Slide / After Burner Kick]]) shares the same SmashWiki article as each other, despite functioning slightly differently. The same can be said for each of the variations of Hero's special moves. -- [[User:TomLegend101]] 07:53, August 6, 2022 (EDT)
 ** The splitting is about the Limit mechanic not Limit Charge which just charging the limit bar. [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 04:25, September 24, 2022 (EDT)
-*'''Support''', I think Tom thought you were after splitting Limit Charge / Finishing Touch because of the title, but you're talking about splitting the Limit gauge from the down special. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 01:13, December 1, 2022 (EST)
-*'''Support''', pretty clear cut, the mechanic deserves its own page. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 22:38, December 8, 2022 (EST)
-*'''Support''', as long as it's about the Limit mechanic itself. Makes going more in-depth about how it affects gameplay from a competitive perspective and listing patch changes feel more appropriate. If the [[Rebellion Gauge]] has its own page, so can this, easy. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 23:17, April 18, 2023 (EDT)
-So is there a certain amount of votes that we need to get an article split? [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:21, June 9, 2023 (EDT)
-:Nothing is determined by a sheer amount of "votes", it's a matter of consensus being established, an admin approving that the proposal's supporters have sound arguments and the proposal is doable, and then someone being willing to do the work to go through with the proposal. In this case, I approve the split here, so if someone is willing to create the separate Limit mechanic article, they have the go ahead. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:48, June 9, 2023 (EDT)
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