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| Actually, Kirby's Up-throw comes from his Ninja ability, not his suplex/fighter abilities. | | Actually, Kirby's Up-throw comes from his Ninja ability, not his suplex/fighter abilities. |
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| I'm sorry this is slightly off-topic, but can Kirby get grabbed when he has an opponent in his mouth?[[User:Lazer81095|<font color="green">Lazer</font><font color="purple">81095</font>]] 19:08, November 1, 2009 (EST)
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| They were both in super smash bros 64, i think it's fair that they're very similar. Thanks for pointing that out, that's neat! --[[User:Lupercaleb|Lupercaleb]] ([[User talk:Lupercaleb|talk]]) 02:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC) | | They were both in super smash bros 64, i think it's fair that they're very similar. Thanks for pointing that out, that's neat! --[[User:Lupercaleb|Lupercaleb]] ([[User talk:Lupercaleb|talk]]) 02:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC) |
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| Ive noticed it to but only with the smash attacks--[[User:Lilman93|Lilman93]] ([[User talk:Lilman93|talk]]) 19:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
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| Hey there. I haven't been here much lately (I'm mostly on smashboards), but why did we get rid of the pros and cons for the chars (I know we did that a long time ago)? | | Hey there. I haven't been here much lately (I'm mostly on smashboards), but why did we get rid of the pros and cons for the chars (I know we did that a long time ago)? |
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| [[User:A1lion835|A1lion835]] ([[User talk:A1lion835|talk]]) 03:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)A1lion835
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| :See [[SmashWiki:Post-Merge Cleanup]]. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 03:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
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| "all his KO moves have considerabe lag" is not true. His arial hammer is very fast and so is his Fsmash (though with a bit of end lag). Care to explain anyone? [[User:Spinodontosaurus|Spinodontosaurus]] ([[User talk:Spinodontosaurus|talk]]) 20:27, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Kirby as a beginner character... ==
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| I think Kirby was meant to be a char used by beginners, as he is easy to get the hang of and/or master, and, the way I see it, he is pretty balanced, aside from his minimal weight. This could also be why he is one of the first characters to appear in the SSE in Brawl, and is a starter character in every game, although that is mere speculation. Not saying kirby is meant solely for beginners, as he is my favorite char and takes practice to get some of the higher damaging and harder to execute combos in. It also seems that he is great for practicing spikes and whatnot as his drill kick is good for it and the hammer can also easily kill a recovering opponent. It's also pretty easy to dodge attacks with him making him perfect for beginners. But then I see some people doing these combos and such on wifi, and it has always made me curious as to if Kirby could be classified as a beginner character or a more specialized and advanced one. Your thoughts please. This has always been a question I've wanted settled, for some reason.
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| :Any character can be used for advanced play, especially the ones higher up on the tier list (including Kirby). His tier ranking wouldn't be high if he didn't have his fair share of techniques, combos, etc. All that aside, Kirby is a user-friendly character which does make him a solid choice as a first main. Unrelated note: next time you accidentally double post, just delete the second part out with another edit. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:25, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Final Smash ==
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| <s>Um, as [[User:PCwizCube|PCwizCube]] has told me, his final smash is quite easy to avoid. You just spam the ground dodge.</s> I take that back.
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| == Attack table ==
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| |'''Move'''
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| |<span class="explain" title="Base knockback">'''BKB'''</span>
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| |<span class="explain" title="Knockback growth">'''KBG'''</span>
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| |<span class="explain" title="Weight-based knockback">'''WBKB'''</span>
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| |rowspan="7"|Neutral||rowspan="7"|unkown||rowspan="7"|Jabs with his right, then his left, and then kicks with his right foot. All are from ''[[Super Mario 64]]''. Beneficial in making combos. First hit [[jab lock]]s characters laying on the ground.||rowspan="3"|Punch 1||Fist||rowspan="3"|3%||rowspan="2"|*||rowspan="3"|2||rowspan="3"|3||rowspan="6"|0||rowspan="6"|100||15||rowspan="6"|{{AttackType|type=Hand|effect=Normal|t=6}}
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| |rowspan="3"|F-Tilt||rowspan="3"|unkown||rowspan="3"|Does a roundhouse kick with his right leg. Has average damage and knockback, but has better reach than his other tilts (it is still short). Has some IASA frames.||colspan="2"|Angled Up||rowspan="3"|8%||rowspan="3"|*||rowspan="3"|5||rowspan="3"|8||rowspan="2"|8||rowspan="3"|100||rowspan="3"|0||rowspan="3"|{{AttackType|type=Foot|effect=Normal|t=3}}
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| |rowspan="2"|D-Tilt||rowspan="2"|unkown||rowspan="2"|Sweeps low to the ground with his leg. Though it has a very fast start-up, it deals very little damage, has high ending lag, low knockback, very low hitstun, and very short reach.||colspan="2"|Foot||5%||rowspan="2"|80||rowspan="2"|5||rowspan="2"|8||rowspan="2"|20||rowspan="2"|80||rowspan="2"|0||rowspan="2"|{{AttackType|type=Foot|effect=Normal|t=2}}
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| |rowspan="4"|Dash||rowspan="4"|unkown||rowspan="4"|Slides forward and kicks with both feet. Also from ''Super Mario 64''. Has low diagonal knockback behind Mario that is difficult to follow up on. (Has IASA frames near the end.)||rowspan="2"|Clean||Foot||rowspan="2"|9%||110||rowspan="2"|6||rowspan="2"|9||rowspan="2"|70||rowspan="2"|50||rowspan="4"|0||rowspan="4"|{{AttackType|type=Foot|effect=Normal|t=4}}
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| |U-Smash||unkown||colspan="3"|Sends opponents skyward with a headbutt. Has fast start-up lag and its ending lag is rather low as well. It does have good base knockback and knockback scaling, but its KO power is rather average for an up-smash. This is Mario's only reliable finisher outside his f-smash and it is his only attack that can KO vertically under 150%.||{{DamageWhenCharged|14}}||83||9||13||32||90||0||{{AttackType|type=Head|effect=Normal|t=1}}
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| |rowspan="2"|D-Smash||rowspan="2"|unkown||rowspan="2"|Does a breakdance sweep. Like Mario's other attacks, it has fast start-up and ending lag but short reach. While stronger than his tilts and aerials, it isn't strong enough to reliably KO under 150%. Another attack from ''Super Mario 64''.||colspan="2"|Front||{{DamageWhenCharged|15}}||rowspan="2"|*||5||7||40||73||rowspan="2"|0||rowspan="2"|{{AttackType|type=Foot|effect=Normal|t=2}}
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| |rowspan="6"|F-Smash||rowspan="6"|unkown||rowspan="6"|Steps back and then forward, causing a blast of fire out of his hand. One of Mario's best reaching moves (though its reach is only average at best). It has rather fast start-up for a forward smash but it does have punishable ending lag. Damage and knockback is highest when sweetspotted at the flame. Can also be angled up and down. It has low base knockback but its knockback scaling is very high. This is Mario's most powerful attack and can be considered his best finisher. The sweetspot is a hitbox with transcendent priority. The attack is derived form Mario's ability to shoot [[fireball]]s.||rowspan="2"|Angled Up||Arm||{{DamageWhenCharged|15}}||rowspan="6"|*||rowspan="6"|15||rowspan="6"|18||rowspan="6"|25||100||rowspan="6"|0||{{AttackType|type=Hand|effect=Normal|t=1}}
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| |rowspan="2"|Nair||rowspan="2"|unkown||rowspan="2"|Performs a [[Sex Kick]] kick in the air. Similar to an attack from ''Super Mario 64''. Its almost instantaneous start-up can be used to break certain chainthrows and combos but it has low knockback and short reach.||colspan="2"|Clean||10%||rowspan="2"|*||3||6||20||100||rowspan="2"|0||rowspan="2"|{{AttackType|type=Foot|effect=Normal|t=2}}
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| |rowspan="2"|Bair||rowspan="2"|unkown||rowspan="2"|Spins and kicks backward. Similar to his [[Fair]] in the original [[Super Smash Bros.]]. Very fast start-up with decent reach and knockback. Can WoP at low to mid percentages and KO at very high percentages (but not below 150% outside of edgeguard situations).||colspan="2"|Clean||12%||rowspan="2"|*||6||8||10||95||rowspan="2"|0||rowspan="2"|{{AttackType|type=Foot|effect=Normal|t=2}}
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| When its done, we'll put it in the article[[Special:Contributions/108.11.194.149|108.11.194.149]] 15:59, 11 February 2011 (EST)
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| I hid it... we should wait as Toomai finishes [[User:Toomai/Data Node|his analysis]]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:55, 11 February 2011 (EST)
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| == important ==
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| does any one else think that kirby was the most important character in the sse
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| :I do, but the problem i have is that i cant play SSE (frezes when i face Rayquaza), so I depend on Youtube cutscenes to see what happens. [[User:King KirbyD|King KirbyD]] ([[User talk:King KirbyD|talk]]) 16:52, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
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| The first glitch is something I found on Wifi Team Battle with Anyone, which has team attack off. I was Kirby, and someone launched my teammate in my direction. I used Stone, and when my teammate came into contact with me, he was sent flying and was KOed, even with Team Attack off. I have two replays of this, and in one of them, the knockback the opponent used to knock my teammate into Stone was far too low to KO.
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| ::I sent the two replays of the glitch at the SmashWiki email. I used Stone, and it killed my teammate when Team Attack was off. If I remember correctly, I was not awarded any self-destructs. It happens at around 1:30 on Pirate Ship and 0:50 on Shadow Moses. I also apologize if my Kirby sucks. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 20:36, 20 May 2013 (EDT)
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