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| == Alpharad? Notable Player? == | | == Alpharad? Notable Player? == |
| Please remove Alpharad from "notable players". He has hardly any tournament results and is only known for memes related to smash rather than his smash skill. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:67.168.188.108|67.168.188.108]] ([[User talk:67.168.188.108|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/67.168.188.108|contribs]]) 00:38 21 August 2015 (EDT)</small> | | Please remove Alpharad from "notable players". He has hardly any tournament results and is only known for memes related to smash rather than his smash skill. {{unsigned|67.168.188.108|00:38 21 August 2015 (EDT)}} |
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| ::::If it doesn't fit with the rest of the article, why do you think it gets its own section? That's not the only possibility - it could get its own section, its own page, or go into the Trivia. Why are you thinking with the supposition that it MUST get its own section? You've given no reason other than that's where you think it should go. Also, what does glitches having their own pages have to do with them getting their own sections? How does that lead to the other? There's no connecting of logic I'm seeing here. I'm saying that, yes, it doesn't fit in with the rest of the article, and have given reasons for it to be relocated to Trivia. From what I see, you have given no reason to relocate it to its own section other than that you want it relocated to its own section. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:17, 20 January 2016 (EST) | | ::::If it doesn't fit with the rest of the article, why do you think it gets its own section? That's not the only possibility - it could get its own section, its own page, or go into the Trivia. Why are you thinking with the supposition that it MUST get its own section? You've given no reason other than that's where you think it should go. Also, what does glitches having their own pages have to do with them getting their own sections? How does that lead to the other? There's no connecting of logic I'm seeing here. I'm saying that, yes, it doesn't fit in with the rest of the article, and have given reasons for it to be relocated to Trivia. From what I see, you have given no reason to relocate it to its own section other than that you want it relocated to its own section. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:17, 20 January 2016 (EST) |
| :::::It fits the Trivia criteria perfectly. You've probably read [[SW:TRIVIA]]. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:19, 20 January 2016 (EST) | | :::::It fits the Trivia criteria perfectly. You've probably read [[SW:TRIVIA]]. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:19, 20 January 2016 (EST) |
| <small>(Reset indent) </small> Ok, you want logic? Let's use logic.
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| #Trivia is used for interesting facts that one might find, i.e., "Wendy O. Koopa is the first female villain in Smash". It wouldn't be for something like a glitch.
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| #Why do I keep bringing up glitches as pages? Because pages are more than a section; instead of one part of a page, it's a whole page. So if something isn't worth being a section, it's not worth being a page.
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| #It's been its own section for a long time; only now, you're complaining about it.
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| [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:27, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::#How are glitches not interesting? Are you suggesting that they are not interesting? Some are, some aren't depending people's level of interest, but there's bound to be a significant amount of people who find them interesting. Also, there are other glitches listed in Trivia, on character and move pages alike, like {{SSB4|Pac-Man}} or {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} or [[Aether]] (where it actually gets its own section, but that's because it's on the move page, not the character page). Although, the Pac-Man one should probably be relocated to [[Power Pellet]]. Anywho...
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| ::#Where are you getting "isn't worth being a section, it's not worth being a page?"
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| ::#I never complained, I just moved it to where I thought it should be reasonably put? And what does the amount of time passing have to do with anything?
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| :::Alright so regarding the "there's pages on glitches" argument, there's an excerpt from [[SW:CNA]] from ''What makes a good, notable article:'' '''Notable glitches;''' if a glitch is notable enough, it can have its own article. Read the below section to see what is not considered a notable glitch
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| :::Then an excerpt from [[SW:CNA]] again from ''What makes a bad, non-notable articles:'' '''Articles about non-notable glitches:''' Some glitches can have their own articles, but others cannot. Glitches should have a notable presence or significance in the Smash community before having their article created. If the glitch is not very notable, consider adding information about the glitch to a related article.
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| ::::Okay, I think it's time I step in. I think first order of business, Aidan, can you tell us how this glitch is executed? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:42, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::Um, read how to do it at the bottom of the page? '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::Wait, it's still there? Hang on. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:44, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| <small>(reset indent)</small> Okay, after reading it, here's what I think. The first one should stay in the trivia section due to its extreme minority when it comes to glitching, but the other one however I feel has the potential to deserve its own section. That's just what I think. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:46, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::Both are extremely minor glitches that do not affect gameplay and are only minor graphical glitches that happen under very specific circumstances. Why should one stay and one have its own section? '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 14:48, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::Yes, the first one is minor, but the other one breaks the entire model, seems like, which does, in away, affect gameplay just a bit. I'm getting on my game though to verify first though before I make any final decisions. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:49, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| #Glitches are interesting; however, something like this that's a paragraph long should not go into a single trivia point.
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| #I've noticed in many situations that non-notable pages get deleted because they can just as easily be combined with a similar page; however, if it's not even worth mentioning in the first place, then it doesn't get put on anything.
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| [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:51, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :Okay, I just verified the glitch. It's not just Kirby or Yoshi, I saw it happen to Bowser too, meaning this goes farther than just Kirby. I honestly think the Pac-Maze glitch should be moved to the Pac-Maze stage, due to the location and nature of the glitch. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:52, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::I'm going to take your word for it DF. In principle, your butting in was highly unnecessary and not appreciated, but you've made up for it with this find. I'll do the move if you haven't already.
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| ::#Why? Where do you base your "should?"
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| ::#What does that have to do with this?
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| ::'''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::Pac-Man glitch was originally on the Pac-Man stage; however, I moved it because it A. was more Kirby than the stage in my opinion and B. related to Kirby's down taunt and I already had a glitch about that so I figured what the hell. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:53, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::And also, to clarify:
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| ::::#I put that pic of Yoshi up because it was the best example I could think of, but causing something like that to happen requires Kirby.
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| ::::#It technically can also be done with Pac-Man himself, and even Jigglypuff.
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| ::::[[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:55, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::Here's the thing: If it were JUST Kirby affected, that's a different story, but the fact of the matter is it affects more than just Kirby, Bowser,Yoshi, Pac-Man, and Jigglypuff are also confirmed to be affected (quite frankly I don't feel like going through all 50 or so characters just to see who's affected), which is why I think it should be moved to Pac-Maze, just giving a more special mention to Kirby due to him being the most screwed up by it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:56, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::"More Kirby?" Why? "What the hell" isn't a good reason either. I'm gonna make the move back now. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::Here's what I wanna know: at this point, I'm fine if the Pac-Man one (along with the images) gets moved to Pac-Maze. But what about the eye glitch? Can that at least have its own section? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:58, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::::If you're referring to the Final Smash one, I think that's better left to the Ultra Sword page to be completely honest. A minor glitch like that doesn't deserve to be on Kirby's base SSB4 page if I'm being completely honest. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:59, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::::And I agree with this too. DF you've made up for your butting in completely. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| <small>(Reset indent) </small> @DF, I actually [[User_talk:Miles_of_SmashWiki/Archive14#Kirby_Down_Taunt_Glitch|asked Miles about that before]], and he said to put it on Kirby's base page. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 15:02, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :I have to disagree with Miles on that one. Due to the fact that it involves Kirby's Final Smash, it makes more sense on the Ultra Sword page. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:03, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::Hm...it actually has more to do with Kirby in standby. Using the Final Smash is one of two ways to perform the latter part of the glitch. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 15:05, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::Good point...I guess it can stay on this page, but I feel it should stay in the trivia section. If it were a gamebreaking glitch or something that really messes Kirby up, it'd be a different story, but since it doesn't, trivia is all I can say it deserves. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:07, 20 January 2016 (EST)
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| Is its knockback value identical to the default? [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 12:17, 22 January 2016 (EST)
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| :According to [http://opensa.dantarion.com/s4/mastercore3/dump/160/kirby this chaos], Hammer Bash has a lower base knockback value. 7 is lower than C in the hexadecimal system. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 12:26, 22 January 2016 (EST)
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| ==Plural of Kirby consensus==
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| I have noticed that across pages, the plural of Kirby is spelt as both Kirbys and Kirbies. While both are technically valid, I feel like we should be consistent with which was we spell it. I don't know if it would be worth having a vote or if it is not that big a problem, I just think we should be consistent with which terminologies we use.
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| It should be noted that generally, the y to ie plural rule doesn't apply to names, but in the case of species names, (which one could argue applies to Kirby), it is sometimes the case. [[User:Alex Parpotta|Alex Parpotta]] ([[User talk:Alex Parpotta|talk]]) 08:52, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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| :This is probably irrelevant, but when talking about Pokémon, if there's a plural of something, it would always be the same as if it was singular. "Wow, there are a lot of Pikachu here!" Perhaps that's the same here too? [[User:Black Vulpine|Black Vulpine]] ([[User talk:Black Vulpine|talk]]) 09:23, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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| ::It was always either "Kirbys" or "Kirbies", never "Kirby". [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 14:49, 8 May 2017 (EDT)
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| :::So it turns out there is an event called "Kirbys on Parade", which may be official conformation that the plural of Kirby is Kirbys. Additionally, there are 8 pages on the wiki that spell it Kirbies, but 23 that spell it Kirbys. I'm thinking we should change all of them to "Kirbys", any objections? [[User:Alex Parpotta|Alex Parpotta]] ([[User talk:Alex Parpotta|talk]]) 15:05, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
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| So I was recently discussing this on the Discord. In Kirby's series he has a copy ability called '{{S|Wikirby|Smash}}', which takes some of his moves from this game and makes them into his own copy ability. As is the custom for many Kirby games, those moves have been given their respective names as well. Now, today, I'm not suggesting we add all of Kirby's moves from his games that we can recognise, however I would like to add the ones that have been confirmed by this copy ability as of Planet Robobot: Vulcan Jab, Twinkle Star and Air Drop, for his jab, neutral air and up throw respectively. Further confirming that these are official names for the moves within Smash Bros is that the ability was renamed to 'Smash Bros' in Planet Robobot. To repeat, I'm not (yet) pushing to add all other recognisable moves from his copy abilities, only focusing on the Smash ability at this time. I'll be back to add these names in a few days if nobody opposes this. If you would like to learn more, take a look at the article linked in this post. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:35, 14 March 2018 (EDT)
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