Editing Talk:Giga Bowser (Final Smash)

== Name of Final Smash ==

Take a look at this page: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/bowser.html

The "Bowser: Final Smash" section says that the name is Giga Bowser Transformation. I think that the "Boswer's Special Moves" box is just referring to what he turns into. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 12:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:Every other source would also say so if it ''was it's real name'', including the Special Moves box and it's Brawl trophy. Judging by this fact, it's extremly more accurate and correct that it's the "Transformation" part that means that he transform into Giga Bowser, and not vice versa. I mean, why would they have wrong in a later edit on their own website aswell as in the game? '''I'm going to move the page back to Giga Bowser (Final Smash) now, and it'll stay so ''unless a discussion is made about it here on the talk page, and everybody votes on YOUR idea.''''' [[User:King M|King M]] ([[User talk:King M|talk]]) 21:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Hacked GB Question ==

According to the article, he can be hit by other Final Smashes when hacked.  How does he interact with the Dragoon? Can he use it? And does he have the animation for flying it? Does he still take damage from getting hit? Does the mini-cinematic work? [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="slategray">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="slategray">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:He can't pick up items, so he can't use it, he gets hit, so the mini-animation works, he just doesn't move, and he still takes damage. Youtube FTW.'''<span style="border:2px outset #fc2;background-color:silver;-moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Blue;">Smoreking</span>]] [[User talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Gold">2009 is coming!</span>]]</span>''' 20:31, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Moveset ==

Is it really necessary to list everything? It's almost identical to [[Bowser (SSBB)#Moveset|Bowser's moveset]]. In the interest of filesize and succinctness (didn't know that was a word), wouldn't it be better to simply note any differences and otherwise just link to Bowser's moveset? [w:c:gunz:user:Aaronwhines|Aaronwhines] 00:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

==Trivia==
I removed the trivia tag since the trivia section is no longer more than 1/3 the size of the article. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 17:27, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks! <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 02:29, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

::That post was made almost 5 months ago. <font face="sand" color="silver"><choose><option>[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">Doctor Pain 99</font>]]</option><option>[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="008080">Doctor Pain 99</font>]]</option><option>[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#BF00FF">Doctor Pain 99</font>]]</option><option>[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#3FFF00">Doctor Pain 99</font>]]</option><option>[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="black">Doctor Pain 99</font>]]</option></choose> ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:dp99.png]] 03:33, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh... sorry. I had recently left a tag on the page about the trivia section being too long, and then I looked at the talk page and I found this, and I thought that OT had fixed the problem. My bad not seeing the date. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:16, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I did that five months ago. Another user by the name of JoeTE did some editing on the page after you posted the trivia tag and after i reviewed the page, I deemed that the trivia section didn't take up too much of the article. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:40, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

==Re-arranging==
Besides adding a few new things just now, I also moved some facts to different parts of the article for a bit of consistency. I have it set right now so that the Playability via hacking section only contains info related to using Giga Bowser permanently via hacks. The Glitches and other oddities section currently has all glitches and strange oddities compared to other characters that can be seen in-game whether using hacks or not. The Trivia section has any other oddities compared to other characters that cannot be seen in gameplay, such as info contained within Brawl's files, as well as any general trivia that the section is known for. [[User:JoeTE|JoeTE]] ([[User talk:JoeTE|talk]]) 20:52, 30 January 2011 (EST)

==Crowd cheering glitch==
I can't get it to work. I tried a match with a 120% damage handicap Bowser, and 2 300% damage handicap Ganondorfs. I got the Smash Ball and KOd them both at the same time (easy task, but somehow harder than it should be) 3 times. The crowd didn't cheer, or "beep" in this case. To make sure everything was fine, I tried KOing them at the same time with normal Bowser afterwards, all 3 times. Cue immediate cheers. Either that thing in the article about the beeping is false altogether, or it's only true for when the player plays as a permanent Giga Bowser via hacks. Can anyone confirm this? If it's the latter, it should be pointed out in the article. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 13:40, 24 March 2012 (EDT)

== He's Back ==
Giga Bowser is indeed returning for Smash Bros. 4 as Bowser's Final Smash. We got to see him during E3, at the demos.  Here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P3i5vsGvkw&feature=youtu.be&t=0m50s
I know the quality isn't that great, but you should be able to identify him.
[[Special:Contributions/24.162.167.55|24.162.167.55]] 16:17, 11 June 2014 (EDT)Anon[[Special:Contributions/24.162.167.55|24.162.167.55]] 16:17, 11 June 2014 (EDT)

== Page Split ==
Since Diddy Kong's Final Smash in Ultimate got its own separate page despite being a new version of his previous one, shouldn't Bowser's Final Smash in Ultimate get its own page? It's an even more drastic change than Diddy's was, and thus should warrant one. --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 19:13, 29 November 2018 (EST)
:I'm in favor of Giga Bowser Punch and Giga Mac Rush having their own articles. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 20:55, 29 November 2018 (EST)
::Any Final Smash that has a '''different name''' should get their own page. But if it works 100% the same ('''and is not used by a different character'''), the page should probably be renamed to include both names. In Giga Bowser's case, it works differently in ''Ultimate'' then it did in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4''. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 21:04, 29 November 2018 (EST)
:::If it has a different name but works the same way, like Ganondorf's, the only question is whether to keep the article name the same and say "known as XXX in Ultimate," or move the article to the new name and say "known as YYY prior to Ultimate." At least with non-FS special moves, the former seems to have been preferred ([[Hammer Flip]], [[Gale Stab]]). I don't really have a preference myself. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 21:33, 29 November 2018 (EST)
::::I mean, R.O.B. has a separate page for all three of his alternate Final Smashes. I think Luigi and Rosalina are the only ones who's FS stay more or less the same and don't have separate pages, while Diddy, DK, and R.O.B. have separate pages as the moves work differently in some way. I think Giga Bowser and Giga Mac are the only ones that have a different name and function that have yet to be separated. Aside from the Gigas, the FS pages should probably be changed to reflect the current/latest name. If they're not separated into their own pages, the Gigas' names should probably stay the same as the Gigas are technically characters (either the same or different of their user). [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 21:52, 30 November 2018 (EST)
:::::'''Split Giga Bowser, Giga Mac, and Wario-Man''' per all. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 22:27, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::::::I '''agree''' to split the ''Giga Bowsers'' and ''Giga Macs'' (for reasons above), but I '''oppose''' ''Wario-Man'' as that one kept it name exactly the same (unless the list has yet to update it). [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 22:33, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::::::Although the way Wario-Man works changed, it still has the same name. Also, the page has all the changes between the games on there as well. I don't think it makes sense to have two pages named the same like Wario-Man [B/4] and Wario-Man [U]. If the function changed and not the name, why would we make another page for it? Luigi and Rosalina's names changed, but the functions stayed pretty much exactly the same. Both the name and function of the Final Smash need be taken into account, otherwise we'd have nearly identical pages, or ones that say more or less the same info in some areas.
::::::I feel Luigi, Rosalina, and Wario's FS should keep the same pages, while Bowser, Little Mac, and R.O.B.'s FS get different pages. All for reasons previously stated. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 22:46, 1 December 2018 (EST)
:::::::I will split the pages now, as everyone seems to be in agreement, if you all change your mind, the changes could be reverted. [[User:Ss4|Ss4]] ([[User talk:Ss4|talk]]) 10:20, 2 December 2018 (EST)

== Shouldn't the moveset links point to specific instances instead of general pages? ==

This was already kinda discussed previously on the [[Talk:List of semi-spikes (SSBM)|talk page]] for the list of SSBM semi-spikes. Basically, when someone clicks on a move link, they're probably expecting to be taken to the hitbox page for that move, rather than the generic page. There's also the issue of duplicate links (one set of links for SSBB & a duplicate one for SSB4). I fixed all the '''list of semi-spikes (SSBX)''' pages, I wouldn't mind fixing Giga Bowser's moveset section. I'm sure it's fine, I just want another user's feedback before making such a big change. [[User:Mariogeek2|Mariogeek2]] ([[User talk:Mariogeek2|talk]]) 20:16, November 30, 2024 (EST)
:I'd say go for it. Since he has his own hitbox data pages, then should probably go ahead an use the standard moveset table like on [[Wario-Man]]. Unfortunately we can't use the template because of how it does links, so that may take a bit. If you want to do just the links for now that'd be fine. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:46, November 30, 2024 (EST)
::Thanks; that's what I'll do. I most likely won't get to "fix" the moveset table until after the new year. When I do, I'll probably just copy/paste the template source into the page then hack at it to get it work, since there's no other ''transformation'' final smashes (except for Giga Mac, which is a whole separate issue) that give a new moveset, rather than making another template. [[User:Mariogeek2|Mariogeek2]] ([[User talk:Mariogeek2|talk]]) 21:32, November 30, 2024 (EST)
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 :I'd say go for it. Since he has his own hitbox data pages, then should probably go ahead an use the standard moveset table like on [[Wario-Man]]. Unfortunately we can't use the template because of how it does links, so that may take a bit. If you want to do just the links for now that'd be fine. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:46, November 30, 2024 (EST)
 ::Thanks; that's what I'll do. I most likely won't get to "fix" the moveset table until after the new year. When I do, I'll probably just copy/paste the template source into the page then hack at it to get it work, since there's no other ''transformation'' final smashes (except for Giga Mac, which is a whole separate issue) that give a new moveset, rather than making another template. [[User:Mariogeek2|Mariogeek2]] ([[User talk:Mariogeek2|talk]]) 21:32, November 30, 2024 (EST)
-== Differences from bowser ==
-It would be nice to list the differences from normal bowser to giga bowser [[Special:Contributions/81.57.27.93|81.57.27.93]] 11:26, December 28, 2024 (EST)
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