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Freaking arses trying to make excuses for their lack of skill... it pisses me off... <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.66.219.126|70.66.219.126]] ([[User talk:70.66.219.126|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.66.219.126|contribs]]) 01:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)</small> | Freaking arses trying to make excuses for their lack of skill... it pisses me off... <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.66.219.126|70.66.219.126]] ([[User talk:70.66.219.126|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.66.219.126|contribs]]) 01:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)</small> | ||
:Firstly, sign your comments using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Secondly, #1 comes out as "1. 1" not "1.". Now, onto the main topic of discussion. You're not a Professional Smasher, or even a Semi-Professional Smasher, so the tier lists, matchups and attributes have no relevance to how you play the game. But, seeing as you have actually raised points, I think it only fair to address them. | :Firstly, sign your comments using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Secondly, #1 comes out as "1. 1" not "1.". Now, onto the main topic of discussion. You're not a Professional Smasher, or even a Semi-Professional Smasher, so the tier lists, matchups and attributes have no relevance to how you play the game. But, seeing as you have actually raised points, I think it only fair to address them. | ||
:His ability to deal with projectiles, his mobility and his sluggish moves are all poor compared to the other characters. He's extremely slow on the ground and in the air, his jumps are all very short, and most of his moves has large amount of lag. You might have "owned" friends who play as Meta Knight using Ganondorf, but that proves nothing. You're clearly just better than them at ''Brawl''. Ganondorf's recovery is predictable when compared to the other characters. For example, Meta Knight can use all of his specials as recovery moves, and they can all be used in most situations. Ganondorf's recovery isn't just predictable, it's very short, and only two of his moves can be used to recover, neither of which go very far and both of which leave him helpless. The fact that he's so heavy doesn't help. Ganondorf can't combo - no one can in ''Brawl''. A combo is when a character is hit by an attack and is still in hitstun when they are hit again. The hitstun in ''Brawl'' is far too low for there to be any combos. It's a common misconception. "You just need to use them better", "trying to make excuses for their lack of skill" and "if Ganondorf's used by a noob" - the tier list, matchups and attributes are based on ''competitive play''. We don't just have a SmashWiki poll every now and then to decide the new tier list, or work out the matchups. We get them from the [[ | :His ability to deal with projectiles, his mobility and his sluggish moves are all poor compared to the other characters. He's extremely slow on the ground and in the air, his jumps are all very short, and most of his moves has large amount of lag. You might have "owned" friends who play as Meta Knight using Ganondorf, but that proves nothing. You're clearly just better than them at ''Brawl''. Ganondorf's recovery is predictable when compared to the other characters. For example, Meta Knight can use all of his specials as recovery moves, and they can all be used in most situations. Ganondorf's recovery isn't just predictable, it's very short, and only two of his moves can be used to recover, neither of which go very far and both of which leave him helpless. The fact that he's so heavy doesn't help. Ganondorf can't combo - no one can in ''Brawl''. A combo is when a character is hit by an attack and is still in hitstun when they are hit again. The hitstun in ''Brawl'' is far too low for there to be any combos. It's a common misconception. "You just need to use them better", "trying to make excuses for their lack of skill" and "if Ganondorf's used by a noob" - the tier list, matchups and attributes are based on ''competitive play''. We don't just have a SmashWiki poll every now and then to decide the new tier list, or work out the matchups. We get them from the [[Smash World Forums]], and they are worked out by top professional Smashers who, I have to say, know the game far better than you, and are far more skilful at it. Anyway, given his many obvious weaknesses, it's fairly safe to say that Ganondorf is objectively a worse character than Meta Knight. There's not really much room for debate... '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 02:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
(Im not that guy but i am a ganondorf player). Ganondorfs recovery can be very predictable but it is not as short as pepole think [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/ Series evaluation|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 20:09, September 19, 2009 (UTC) | (Im not that guy but i am a ganondorf player). Ganondorfs recovery can be very predictable but it is not as short as pepole think [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/ Series evaluation|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 20:09, September 19, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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I think that those moves's buffs are negligible, since those moves are almost impossible to land in normal circumstances and thus, this make those moves nearly useless. [[User:YoshiKong|YoshiKong]] ([[User talk:YoshiKong|talk]]) 17:06, 20 January 2015 (EST) | I think that those moves's buffs are negligible, since those moves are almost impossible to land in normal circumstances and thus, this make those moves nearly useless. [[User:YoshiKong|YoshiKong]] ([[User talk:YoshiKong|talk]]) 17:06, 20 January 2015 (EST) | ||
