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| == Shaving off the less notable mods == | | == Shaving off the less notable mods == |
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| {{proposal|failed|2=No quorum <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:49, January 18, 2022 (EST)}} | | {{proposal}} |
| I suggest we remove the less notable mods from this page. I understand that as a page for modifications in general, it should be allowed to go into detail on various notable mods, but some of these are pretty obscure. The following mods should be removed imo: | | I suggest we remove the less notable mods from this page. I understand that as a page for modifications in general, it should be allowed to go into detail on various notable mods, but some of these are pretty obscure. The following mods should be removed imo: |
| *Super Smash Bros. Hex - Abandoned early on and did not receive much recognition. The only recognition from notable players that it did receive was in the form of negative criticism and/or backlash. | | *Super Smash Bros. Hex - Abandoned early on and did not receive much recognition. The only recognition from notable players that it did receive was in the form of negative criticism and/or backlash. |
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| I do think mods such as Smash Remix (especially), Akaneia, and even Melee 64 or Smash 2 could use their own pages. Heck, Remix could probably even get individual character pages like PM. However I don't have the time and dedication for it nor do I feel the most qualified for all that right now. So here's hoping more will finally see this. I will also say though that stuff like Silly Melee don't need a page. I'm surprised it's even on this article really. [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] Feb 27th, 2021 9:12 (EST) | | I do think mods such as Smash Remix (especially), Akaneia, and even Melee 64 or Smash 2 could use their own pages. Heck, Remix could probably even get individual character pages like PM. However I don't have the time and dedication for it nor do I feel the most qualified for all that right now. So here's hoping more will finally see this. I will also say though that stuff like Silly Melee don't need a page. I'm surprised it's even on this article really. [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] Feb 27th, 2021 9:12 (EST) |
| :"''Remix could probably even get individual character pages like PM''"
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| :That will never happen on this wiki, PM only got individual character articles because it obtained a real competitive scene so large and long-lasting within the Smash community, to where it was treated as on par with the official games. Unless Smash Remix can somehow obtain that, any proposal for character articles will be dead on arrival here, and you'll be much bettet off creating a separate wiki for Smash Remix itself (or for Smash mods in general). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:31, February 27, 2021 (EST)
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| :[[SmashWiki is not fanon|Ahem.]] [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 14:45, February 27, 2021 (EST)
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| Smash Remix has had some big competitive stuff happen so far. Though yes it might not ever be PM levels since it's let's face it, not Melee (and doesn't have people going like "OOOHHH!! OHHHH!!!"). Though I guess we will see for now if something happens in the distant future. Getting a general page sometime isn't out of the question though? [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] Furries can be pretty cute sometimes. February 27, 2021 18:04 (EST)
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| '''Oppose''': [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not fanon|We are not a fanon wiki]], we only have pages for Project M and + because of their massive community presence and tournament success to the point where they have become on par with official games, so we shouldn't ignore them. These other mods don't have tournament success as PM/+, they're not getting pages [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="deepskyblue">Omegα Toαd,</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">the Toαd Wαrrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Omega Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(BUP)</font>]]''' 18:45, February 27, 2021 (EST)
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| So that means ones like SD Remix has had tournament representation as well? I only ask out of curiosity since some I never heard of beforehand. [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] February 28, 2021 8:18 (EST)
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| ==More specified info to recently added mods== | | ==More specified info to recently added mods== |
| Hi so I'm the guy who recently added the sections for Akaneia and Melee 64. I'm also the one who typically updates Smash Remix the most. While I think Remix is fine, I do hope others can look more deeply into the info of the other two mods as I think my info may be incomplete and can't really look into it right now. This mostly applies to Wolf in Akaneia. I also think some could use their own pages as said above. Here's hoping people actually see this though. [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] Feb 27th, 2021. | | Hi so I'm the guy who recently added the sections for Akaneia and Melee 64. I'm also the one who typically updates Smash Remix the most. While I think Remix is fine, I do hope others can look more deeply into the info of the other two mods as I think my info may be incomplete and can't really look into it right now. This mostly applies to Wolf in Akaneia. I also think some could use their own pages as said above. Here's hoping people actually see this though. [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] Feb 27th, 2021 (EST). |
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| Update: Ok so no new pages, but more info does need to be added still. [[User:Wilfredcthulu|Wilfredcthulu]] February 28, 2021 8:20 (EST)
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| == Smash Remix - Section content vs Page content ==
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| Smash Remix section is a long reorganized changelog of many versions that the mod went through, but I feel it might be clearer to add this info to the changelog present on its dedicated page, and rewrite its section to be more of a quick overview of the mod, like the other mods featured here. [[User:Titiunit|Titiunit]] ([[User talk:Titiunit|talk]]) 11:13, January 13, 2023 (EST)
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| :Sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 13:16, January 13, 2023 (EST)
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| == Rewriting this page ==
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| Aight i think this page is in need of some big changes, and i'm not sure how to proceed.
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| The Gameplay Adjustments section is the biggest "problem", it should absolutely be rewritten, but i'm wondering if some changes aren't needed on the whole structure or the page.
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| Main reason is that there will always be some amount of repetition between the "Notable mods" section and the "type of modification" sections, if they are kept as-is.
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| Also there should be some place centralizing general information about mods for each game (history, exploits used, general popularity of mods in that game community, etc).
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| Maybe we should have one "Modding in each game" section, one "type of modifications" section, and then a Notable Mods section ?
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| Also i think this page should mention customizations (mods that are just one texture change, like the C9/mango falco or Ult tourneys running a modded PS2 with the pokeball replaced with the tourney's logo), and I don't see where to do that currently.
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| Need help ! [[User:TwilCynder|TwilCynder]] ([[User talk:TwilCynder|talk]]) 19:05, January 1, 2024 (EST)
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| I suggest condensing the article so that everything above the notable gameplay mods section is under the overview section or cut entirely, as some of that information is redundant and splitting everything by game bloats the article. As for the notable gameplay mods section, those should be split into dedicated articles for each game, similar to how [[List of tips (SSBU)]] is handled. That way this main article is manageable while the sub-articles get into the weeds more.[[User:The Other Jared|The Other Jared]] ([[User talk:The Other Jared|talk]]) 19:30, January 1, 2024 (EST)
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