Editing Talk:Galeem

==unsure==
I am not sure about Galeem taking over the Smash Universe. Somehow, I think Smash-verse (or Smash Universe) is based off the imagination of people that have the Smash Trophies in the real world. The villain that I think of could be the manager of an evil company that steals products and copies them. If I remember the video that talked about the Super Smash Bros Secret Lore, that means the theory could reveal the real villain in the real world, except for Thanos (due to people talking about Galeem as Thanos in the real world, but Thanos is from the Avengers' world). What I think of that villain is that the manager hired spies to steal every piece of the main toy factory's product that every kid adored, the Smash Trophies. During that time in the Smash Universe, Galeem wiped every piece of the universe except for Kirby (which in real life, the toy factory closed). As a result in the real world, the manager of the evil company used it to make profit, making the kids lose interest of the original trophies, but one didn't give up. As a result, Galeem is no other than an evil company manager in the real world and used a goop to copy the trophies, which means the employees of the evil company created the same product and claimed from theirs! It could be false, but this is just a theory. - Chicane (Youtube) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.219.196.213|107.219.196.213]] ([[User talk:107.219.196.213|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.219.196.213|contribs]]) 20:44, November 2, 2018‎</small>
:In the future, sign your posts with four tiles. Also, this is not the proper use of talk pages, see [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 20:48, 2 November 2018 (EDT)

I should note that Galeem's initial attack was on a universal scale, not merely a galaxy. Check the first cutscene for proof. It explicitly states "universe" instead of galaxy.

== Ancient Seraphims ==
Something I haven't seen talked about yet is that Galeem's body vaguely resembles old depictions of seraphims.  They were depicted as rather intimidating creatures with six wings and their head in the center.  Granted, Galeem only has a sphere for its body but its still an interesting correlation. [[User:FissionMetroid101|FissionMetroid101]] ([[User talk:FissionMetroid101|talk]]) 11:13, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

:I think its valid to mention this. I remember reading once that Seraphim appearing in the mortal realm is meant to be a sign of the rapture, which takes place before the world is going to end. Galeem does in fact cause the world to 'end', killing everyone off and restarting the universe. So it There is also the fact that all the hands that accompany it are Master Hands. Master Hands are only Right Hands, and in christian mythology 'the right Hand of God' is said to be holy, thats why 'good christians are right handed' and 'only those tainted by the devil are left handed'. Thats why there is a stigma against left handed people in the christian/catholic church.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 02:33, 5 November 2018 (EST)

== The hands ==
Is it just me, or do some of the hands seem in a more Crazy Hand like position than the others? Also those hands are also right hands for some reason. [[User:HWWPoncho|HWWPoncho]] ([[User talk:HWWPoncho|talk]]) 01:07, 4 November 2018 (EST)

:Master Hands are right hands, left hands are crazy hands. So all the hands that appear are Master Hands, none being crazy hands.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 02:33, 5 November 2018 (EST)

== The sounds during vaporization ==
Okay, so I haven't seen anyone else comment on this, but the sounds when the characters are vaporized sound A LOT like the sounds used when the original 8 flash across the screen in the Smash 64 intro. Whether or not it's relevant to anything major, I don't know, but I find it to be an odd callback to make out of the blue. <br>[[User:Dr.3am|Dr.3am]] ([[User talk:Dr.3am|talk]]) 11:29, 7 November 2018 (EST)
==Galeem and Dharkon==
I'm confirmed that Galeem has its evil counterpart, [[Dharkon]]. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdfAyEeDYE --[[User:Dharakjoo|Dharakjoo]] ([[User talk:Dharakjoo|talk]]) 22:01, 24 November 2018 (EST)
:I don't believe it's a good idea to post about Dharkon, especially since it's a spoiler from people who got the game early. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 22:37, 25 November 2018 (EST)
== Good ending? ==

Is there a "good ending" to the game? Both articles say that defeating only Galeem or Dharkon will cause the other to destroy the world. [[Special:Contributions/97.88.58.90|97.88.58.90]] 22:19, 25 November 2018 (EST)
:Again, I don't think it's a good idea to talk about the World of Light, since the game still has just under 2 weeks before it's being released, and people want to be kept unspoiled. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 22:37, 25 November 2018 (EST)
::...can't people just simply avoid the wiki until then? [[Special:Contributions/97.88.58.90|97.88.58.90]] 01:04, 26 November 2018 (EST)
:::It doesn't work like that, 97.88.58.90. People are bound to check, and a good majority of frantic Smash fans presumably saw the videos before they were taken down, and they'd want somewhere to check and see if what they saw was true. As of now, we're not supposed to do anything with displaying info involving data-mining. And yes, while I am aware that we already done that with the ''Smash 4'' data-mining of updates 1.0.6 and 1.0.8, this time, we're putting our foot down with displaying data-mined information. That includes spoiling the endings of World of Light. [[File:SonicSpeed48ThanksgivingSig4.png|17px]][[User:SonicSpeed48|<span style="color: gold;">'''Sonic'''</span>]], [[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<span style="color: brown;">'''the Thankful Speedster'''</span>]][[File:FallLovingTigger.png|17px]] 01:15, 26 November 2018 (EST)
::::I thought the Wiki [[SmashWiki is not spoiler-safe|wasn't spoiler safe]]. So when it releases tomorrow or in a few weeks, are we going to reveal the spoilers? [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 17:34, 6 December 2018 (EST)
== Lens Flare Attack ==

Ok, is it just me, or when Galeem does the Lens Flare (Off Waves 2.0), does the eye that comes out resemble Dharkon’s? Just wondering, since they look identical to me.
[[User:DokkanFest|DokkanFest]] ([[User talk:DokkanFest|talk]]) 18:21, 11 January 2019 (EST)DokkanFest

== Move names ==

Is there any source or are they in any way official in the game rather than plucked out of thin air? Same goes for Dharkon and Master/Crazy Hand's listed moves. If they have no official basis then they don't really belong on this wiki and the move format should return to the list of move descriptions as before (and as the majority of bosses follow). [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 00:04, 15 January 2019 (EST)
:I've only found one mention in game of Galeem's or Dharkon's attacks (and happens to be the only mention of either of them I can find). Under Tips>Other>Boss it talks about to the two's "time bombs", which is what the mainpage calls "Cross Bombs". As for all of the other moves, I've no idea. Maybe a strategy guide names them somewhere or they are fabricated. They were added back in [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Galeem&diff=prev&oldid=1156871 December 2018] and they've remained since. As for Master & Crazy Hand the same section mentions Iron Ball and Spikes for Master Hand, "Glare" and Gravity Ball for Crazy Hand. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 17:52, May 14, 2020 (EDT)
::Yeah a quick internet search seems to yield no official places any of these names appear. They do crop up a few times over the web but I can't help but assume that they were more likely copied from this wiki. It seems increasingly likely that they were made up by some one which means the names should probably go, as is the precedent. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 05:11, May 20, 2020 (EDT)

We tolerate invented names for boss moves because unlike character moves that is very little way to otherwise unambiguously refer to them. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The SMASH-GINEER 07:21, May 20, 2020 (EDT)

==Naming==
In the German Versio he is called Kyra. It seems the article refer to this as "Killer" (unsure, about this accuracy), but Kyra or Kaira (a related name) is also a name of two mythological figures "Ra, God of Sun" and "Kaira", supreme Creator-God of Heaven/Light in Turkic Mythology Both resemble Kaira as personification of "Light" and hey are Creator/Sustainer deities, as opposition to Darkness/Chaos. Since I am not a member, someone else might add them in Trivia?

==Please fix a line==
Since non-admins can't edit, I'll request it here. Please correct the description of the gallery image of the final world map to say that Galeem is on the right. It says he is on the left. He isn't. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SirSomeguy|SirSomeguy]] ([[User talk:SirSomeguy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SirSomeguy|contribs]]) 03:11, June 27, 2020</small>
:Rfdc have done it now. [[Special:Contributions/46.229.158.109|46.229.158.109]] 06:57, June 27, 2020 (EDT)

==Galeem's gender==
What pronouns are used to refer to Galeem in official text? I know that some characters' official pronouns aren't always the same, such as Birdo, but is Galeem ever officially referred to with male pronouns like it sometimes is on this page? If not, then this page should use inanimate object  pronouns to refer to Galeem. (Too bad there aren't any gender-universal singular-only animate pronouns.) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)|21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)]] ([[User talk:21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)|contribs]]) ThighFish</small>
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 ==unsure==
-I am not sure about Galeem taking over the Smash Universe. Somehow, I think Smash-verse (or Smash Universe) is based off the imagination of people that have the Smash Trophies in the real world. The villain that I think of could be the manager of an evil company that steals products and copies them. If I remember the video that talked about the Super Smash Bros Secret Lore, that means the theory could reveal the real villain in the real world, except for Thanos (due to people talking about Galeem as Thanos in the real world, but Thanos is from the Avengers' world). What I think of that villain is that the manager hired spies to steal every piece of the main toy factory's product that every kid adored, the Smash Trophies. During that time in the Smash Universe, Galeem wiped every piece of the universe except for Kirby (which in real life, the toy factory closed). As a result in the real world, the manager of the evil company used it to make profit, making the kids lose interest of the original trophies, but one didn't give up. As a result, Galeem is no other than an evil company manager in the real world and used a goop to copy the trophies, which means the employees of the evil company created the same product and claimed from theirs! It could be false, but this is just a theory. - Chicane (Youtube) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.219.196.213|107.219.196.213]] ([[User talk:107.219.196.213|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.219.196.213|contribs]]) 20:44, November 2, 2018</small>
+I am not sure about Galeem taking over the Smash Universe. Somehow, I think Smash-verse (or Smash Universe) is based off the imagination of people that have the Smash Trophies in the real world. The villain that I think of could be the manager of an evil company that steals products and copies them. If I remember the video that talked about the Super Smash Bros Secret Lore, that means the theory could reveal the real villain in the real world, except for Thanos (due to people talking about Galeem as Thanos in the real world, but Thanos is from the Avengers' world). What I think of that villain is that the manager hired spies to steal every piece of the main toy factory's product that every kid adored, the Smash Trophies. During that time in the Smash Universe, Galeem wiped every piece of the universe except for Kirby (which in real life, the toy factory closed). As a result in the real world, the manager of the evil company used it to make profit, making the kids lose interest of the original trophies, but one didn't give up. As a result, Galeem is no other than an evil company manager in the real world and used a goop to copy the trophies, which means the employees of the evil company created the same product and claimed from theirs! It could be false, but this is just a theory. - Chicane (Youtube) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.219.196.213|107.219.196.213]] ([[User talk:107.219.196.213|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.219.196.213|contribs]]) 20:44, November 2, 2018‎</small>
 :In the future, sign your posts with four tiles. Also, this is not the proper use of talk pages, see [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 20:48, 2 November 2018 (EDT)
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 ==Galeem's gender==
-What pronouns are used to refer to Galeem in official text? I know that some characters' official pronouns aren't always the same, such as Birdo, but is Galeem ever officially referred to with male pronouns like it sometimes is on this page? If not, then this page should use inanimate object  pronouns to refer to Galeem. (Too bad there aren't any gender-universal singular-only animate pronouns.) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ThighFish|ThighFish]] ([[User talk:ThighFish|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThighFish|contribs]]) 21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)</small>
+What pronouns are used to refer to Galeem in official text? I know that some characters' official pronouns aren't always the same, such as Birdo, but is Galeem ever officially referred to with male pronouns like it sometimes is on this page? If not, then this page should use inanimate object  pronouns to refer to Galeem. (Too bad there aren't any gender-universal singular-only animate pronouns.) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)|21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)]] ([[User talk:21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/21:47, September 13, 2020 (EDT)|contribs]]) ThighFish</small>
-:Help > How to Play > Adventure > page 1: "...Galeem traps the spirits within puppet fighters and forces them to do '''his''' bidding". Therfore male. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:03, September 13, 2020 (EDT)
-::Also at the bottom of the [https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/howtoplay/spirits.html ''Smash Bros.'' site], "Meet the fiend known as Galeem. Fighters and spirits will have to team up to stop '''him''' before it's too late!" --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:16, September 13, 2020 (EDT)
-==Boss move names==
-I had added a lot of the official move names for the bosses sourced from official Japanese strategy guides, but they ended up getting removed due to some of the names not matching the in-series names for certain bosses (Marx's "Shooter Cutter" and Dracula's "Hellfire" are referred to by different names).
-I feel since they're literally the ONLY official source of the attack names, especially when referring to Smash-original bosses like Tabuu and Galeem, the info shouldn't be thrown out, and in the event that a name doesn't match up, a note that it's commonly referred to by a different name in the series should be added. Additionally, one of the Japanese names on Tabuu's page is flat-out incorrect, so I think adding boss move names is justified as continuing to refer to the moves by fan nicknames while official names exist is kind of ridiculous. What do others think? [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 13:23, June 19, 2021 (EDT)
-:Bumping this discussion again since no one responded, anyone have any views on the thing? [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 23:37, July 11, 2021 (EDT)
-::No yeah this seems logical to me, the proposal i mean, if those names are from the only official source we have i don't see why they should get cut at all. —-[[User:Lattie|Lattie]] ([[User talk:Lattie|talk]]) 05:17, July 12, 2021 (EDT)
-:::If it's an official source, then it's an official source. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:57, July 12, 2021 (EDT)
-:Might be late on this so apologies if this has already been answered, but how official are these guides? Are they directly published by Nintendo or is it a Prima Games kinda thing? --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 13:35, July 12, 2021 (EDT)
-::I mentioned this on BubbleRevolution's talk page, but I believe the guide (or one of them which the JP wiki mentions) is published by either [https://books.famitsu-dengeki.com/product/321807000664.html Kadokawa or Dengeki] (Not familiar with the site and don't speak JP). It was advertised by the [https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/1088602351299162112 official JP twitter] and DeepL translates it to "Super Smash Bros. SPECIAL Official Guide" (the link in the tweet used to work, but they changed the site since). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 13:55, July 12, 2021 (EDT)
-:::Yeah, it's the Dengeki one as far as I can find. It's an officially-sanctioned guide. It also features the names for each of the normal attacks for the base roster, of note is that the names used in guides for Brawl and Smash 4 appear to match the official names long before they were given in Ultimate's loading screens, such as Lucas' up smash being called "PK Smash Geyser", so I think that's a pretty good indicator of their legitimacy. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 02:44, July 13, 2021 (EDT)
-:Bumping this one last time just to see if anyone else has any thoughts, if not I'll probably restore my edits in the next day or two so long as the mod team allows it. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 21:33, July 13, 2021 (EDT)
-::If it's official, then it counts. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="deepskyblue">Omega Toad,</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">the Toad Warrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Omega Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 23:34, July 13, 2021 (EDT)
-== I like Galeem and Dharkon ==
-Cuz it is wonderful like that type of picture is good, and his special abilities are very awesome! (Please don't mind my username has a Galeem in it).
-I love it! <3
-∞☮I[[User:Galeemarizerita Darakhona|Galeemarizerita Darakhona]] ([[User talk:Galeemarizerita Darakhona|talk]]) 10:47, July 8, 2021 (EDT)I☮∞
-:I think Galeem and Dharkon are very cool too, but this is not really the place to discuss that. Please have a read of [[SW:TALK]] before editing further, thanks! Welcome to SmashWiki! Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 10:56, July 8, 2021 (EDT)
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